Off Season Question Of The Day.

[Southieinnc]

So... were the drugs a symptom or were they part of the cause? It's not exactly a chicken vs egg thing where she may have had signs of some mental illness, then the drugs showed up and completed a circuit.

She was bipolar. No signs of it when we were younger. She began self-medicating and it made things worse. I tried to help her but could not.
I tried to get her away from the drugs, to no avail. I then tried to stop the drug dealers from selling to her. They refused. Some even laughed.
The only thing that stopped me from continuing my battle was my 5 yo son.

Years later I ran into 4 I had put in prison. They had just gotten out. My friend whispered "you see them?" I said "look again"
They had hauled ass out of there. Would you go into a back yard where a pitbull had already bitten you?

 

[YankeeRebel]

You should also be asking me, and my answer lies in my first statement "addictive drugs". While Mary Jane has some addictive qualities, it's not the same. It doesn't zap every ounce of ambition beyond acquiring the next high like meth and opioids.

I never smoked much but am fine with it be a jurisdictional referendum issue where recent history speaks for itself.

Agreed.

My kid grows medical grade marijuana he said they have a strain called Dad's Weed. It's mellow won't get you all messed up just takes the edge of leaves you feeling relaxed. That is the weed I am cool with.

 

[nefansince75]

She was bipolar. No signs of it when we were younger. She began self-medicating and it made things worse. I tried to help her but could not.
I tried to get her away from the drugs, to no avail. I then tried to stop the drug dealers from selling to her. They refused. Some even laughed.
The only thing that stopped me from continuing my battle was my 5 yo son.

Years later I ran into 4 I had put in prison. They had just gotten out. My friend whispered "you see them?" I said "look again"
They had hauled ass out of there. Would you go into a back yard where a pitbull had already bitten you?

but you need to be careful. Somebody might be reckless enough to go into the backyard with a weapon and a foolish plan.

 

[nefansince75]

Agreed.

My kid grows medical grade marijuana he said they have a strain called Dad's Weed. It's mellow won't get you all messed up just takes the edge of leaves you feeling relaxed. That is the weed I am cool with.

Your son isn't a drug dealer, he's an opportunist (and not the negative perception context).

 

[Southieinnc]

but you need to be careful. Somebody might be reckless enough to go into the backyard with a weapon and a foolish plan.

There are easier "backyards" Criminals are looking for easy targets.
One of my favorites: If you don't want to get eaten, don't act like food!

 

[YankeeRebel]

Your son isn't a drug dealer, he's an opportunist (and not the negative perception context).

Agreed . He company is backed by some Israel based company that has been doing this for sixty years. I plan to invest soon.

 

[nefansince75]

There are easier "backyards" Criminals are looking for easy targets.
One of my favorites: If you don't want to get eaten, don't act like food!

 

[BigKen]

I don't give a crap about weed. It's being legalized and if the medical people can't prove anything about it being addictive it's most likely relatively harmless.

Talk about coke, horse or meth and that's a whole different story.

 

[YankeeRebel]

Is violence inherent to humans?

I think I have to give this one a big yes. While I won't say it's inherent to all humans I do believe it is to a large, very large majority.

 

[nefansince75]

Is violence inherent to humans?

I think I have to give this one a big yes. While I won't say it's inherent to all humans I do believe it is to a large, very large majority.

I think selfishness is inherent to humans, but so is a brain that can keep that in check when "a greater good" can be seen within a societal structure.

However, many choose to ignore that greater good and no means to the end is off the table, especially violence.

 

[Southieinnc]

This begs the question are you and Southie opposed to legalized recreational marijuana ?

I am 100 percent in favor of medical but not all in on recreational.
A fewthings still bother me:
1) no good test for DUI
2) CA bill passed but allowed advertising
3) Backyard pot growing (3 plants in CA) exposes kids to getting pot just be jumping a fence.
4) Backyard pot growing (3 plants in CA) exposes kids to getting

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[BigKen]

While I don't think "violence" is inherent, anger is a human emotion and it leads to the act of violence. Adrenalin is the key. Anger, panic, fear all cause adrenalin to be released within the body and "Fight or Flight" becomes the choice. The fear or panic becomes anger and the adrenalin feeds it and the host acts violently. It's called the human response. In others the fear or panic causes them to flee or hide.

The release for some is nearly orgasmic, hence we have our 'Adrenalin Junkies". For a very few, the adrenalin is pumped hard killing others and that uncontrolled person is always called a psychopath or serial killer.

In combat, if your adrenalin pump doesn't work at full capacity, you're dead. You'll never get the full adrenalin rush unless the fear, panic and anger are all present in a defensive position, ready to lash out at whatever comes next.

 

[YankeeRebel]

I am 100 percent in favor of medical but not all in on recreational.
A fewthings still bother me:
1) no good test for DUI
2) CA bill passed but allowed advertising
3) Backyard pot growing (3 plants in CA) exposes kids to getting pot just be jumping a fence.
4) Backyard pot growing (3 plants in CA) exposes kids to getting

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Well kids are already getting it anyway so that doesn't really change anything. I do agree the homeowner / grower should have to have some sort of security in place

 

[Southieinnc]

Well kids are already getting it anyway so that doesn't really change anything. I do agree the homeowner / grower should have to have some sort of security in place

Something besides a gun!

 

[nefansince75]

Is violence inherent to humans?

I think I have to give this one a big yes. While I won't say it's inherent to all humans I do believe it is to a large, very large majority.

I think selfishness is inherent to humans, but so is a brain that can keep that in check when "a greater good" can be seen within a societal structure.

However, many choose to ignore that greater good and no means to the end is off the table, especially violence.

While I don't think "violence" is inherent, anger is a human emotion and it leads to the act of violence. Adrenalin is the key. Anger, panic, fear all cause adrenalin to be released within the body and "Fight or Flight" becomes the choice. The fear or panic becomes anger and the adrenalin feeds it and the host acts violently. It's called the human response. In others the fear or panic causes them to flee or hide.

The release for some is nearly orgasmic, hence we have our 'Adrenalin Junkies". For a very few, the adrenalin is pumped hard killing others and that uncontrolled person is always called a psychopath or serial killer.

In combat, if your adrenalin pump doesn't work at full capacity, you're dead. You'll never get the full adrenalin rush unless the fear, panic and anger are all present in a defensive position, ready to lash out at whatever comes next.

So YR - We hit a bit of a context issue. I answered a different variant of your question than BK.

I interpreted it as premeditated violence were BK interpreted as reactionary. Did you have either of these as your intent or any and all.

I think reactionary violence is inherent to all animals and beyond. Why does poison ivy cause a rash? but that's probably off topic as I assume you mean person on person violence and not violence used to gather food or protect from a predator.

 

[Yankee Traveler]

You are allowed one cheat for one year, this is all forgiven if you eat pasta each day you gain no weight, if you cheat on your spouse all is forgiven, if you daily torture someone that abandoned their children all is forgiven.

What is your cheat?

I get to massacre baby rapists and child molesters???

Or, I get to fire everybody in HR!!

 

[Yankee Traveler]

Great answer. For me it's rapist and child molesters let me hunt them down and kill them as many as I can each day.

Damn...

 

[YankeeRebel]

So YR - We hit a bit of a context issue. I answered a different variant of your question than BK.

I interpreted it as premeditated violence were BK interpreted as reactionary. Did you have either of these as your intent or any and all.

I think reactionary violence is inherent to all animals and beyond. Why does poison ivy cause a rash? but that's probably off topic as I assume you mean person on person violence and not violence used to gather food or protect from a predator.

I was thinking reactionary and I agree I think it's inherent in all humans sort of Fight or Flight even though a weaker person may flee based on common sense I do believe he would want to fight. I think about all the wars, and street fight, road rage, etc humans are just a violent mostly shitty species

 

[YankeeRebel]

I get to massacre baby rapists and child molesters???

Or, I get to fire everybody in HR!!

I think I just found my other road warrior!

 

[Yankee Traveler]

This begs the question are you and Southie opposed to legalized recreational marijuana ?

When I was young I smoked a lot...often.
I feel as though I would have been much more successful if I had not smoked as much when I was an adolescent. I am against recreational use. I think even if it's not as addictive as other drugs, it's a crutch.