NY Jets vs NE Patriots Sunday 10/24/2021 1:00 PM EST CBS

[Yankee Traveler]

Then we can talk draft

WR or Kicker?

Kicker or WR???


WR. No, Kicker. No, WR. No....

 

[YankeeRebel]

WR or Kicker?

Kicker or WR???


WR. No, Kicker. No, WR. No....

Hell I was wrong about Folk dont care how old he is he's been very good. I don't know what to do about WRs, is it BB, Josh our WRs coach? There is a breakdown in selecting talent at that position and every time we draft a guy my stomach drops.

 

[Southieinnc]

Hell I was wrong about Folk dont care how old he is he's been very good. I don't know what to do about WRs, is it BB, Josh our WRs coach? There is a breakdown in selecting talent at that position and every time we draft a guy my stomach drops.

Fix the O-line and we will have a good receiving corps.....

 

[YankeeRebel]

Fix the O-line and we will have a good receiving corps.....

Ehhhhhhh not sure I agree.

 

[BigKen]

Fix the O-line and we will have a good receiving corps.....

It's a start.

Just don't draft any dwarfs.

 

[Yankee Traveler]

Hell I was wrong about Folk dont care how old he is he's been very good. I don't know what to do about WRs, is it BB, Josh our WRs coach? There is a breakdown in selecting talent at that position and every time we draft a guy my stomach drops.

I was being facetious.

Not sure about who or how the WR's are picked.
BB has drafted some doozies early. Blistering speed, incredible physicality, off the charts athleticism.

And they accomplish nothing. But hen there is Branch, Edelman, Meyers and a slew more that were taken late or brought in as RFA...so go figure.

Kickers, I think, is a bigger lottery.

 

[nefansince75]

Hell I was wrong about Folk ...

Why did you go and ruin this for us? Now we can mess with you about Folk anymore.

 

[nefansince75]

I was being facetious.

Not sure about who or how the WR's are picked.
BB has drafted some doozies early. Blistering speed, incredible physicality, off the charts athleticism.

And they accomplish nothing. But hen there is Branch, Edelman, Meyers and a slew more that were taken late or brought in as RFA...so go figure.

Kickers, I think, is a bigger lottery.

Branch was a second rounder. Everything he did was expected (certainly the high end)...

 

[redseat]

My one question/concern about this game (well besides Mills being god awful) is this...

"Did Mcdaniels really need to try all those trick plays against the Jets?" Now teams know what to expect

 

[YankeeRebel]

Why did you go and ruin this for us? Now we can mess with you about Folk anymore.

You can I mostly ignored in the past I can mostly ignore it in the future.

 

[Southieinnc]

My one question/concern about this game (well besides Mills being god awful) is this...

"Did Mcdaniels really need to try all those trick plays against the Jets?" Now teams know what to expect

That's part of the game!
Give our next opponents something to worry about......

 

[redseat]

That's part of the game!
Give our next opponents something to worry about......

I get trying to have the opponent think of other things but we showed them what we are going do so they might in fact be ready for them.. Heck.. If they didn't work against the Jets (with the exception of the first one) why would they work against the Chargers or anyone else?

 

[YankeeRebel]

My one question/concern about this game (well besides Mills being god awful) is this...

"Did Mcdaniels really need to try all those trick plays against the Jets?" Now teams know what to expect

Yeah that was kind of a waste IMO. If this was his idea of opening up the playbook how did our rookie QB benefit from that? That was juvenile IMO

 

[redseat]

Yeah that was kind of a waste IMO. If this was his idea of opening up the playbook how did our rookie QB benefit from that? That was juvenile IMO

The first one was great (because it worked) but to try it what 3 more times was a little dumb, especially since they were not needed at all since they were blowing out the Jets

 

[Yankee Traveler]

Branch was a second rounder. Everything he did was expected (certainly the high end)...

Yes, my point being great pick no matter the expectation, or bust.
Not all high, or even medium picks, were busts.

 

[YankeeRebel]

The first one was great (because it worked) but to try it what 3 more times was a little dumb, especially since they were not needed at all since they were blowing out the Jets

Exactly they could easily have tried some of the play Mac may be struggeling with in practice.

 

[nefansince75]

You can I mostly ignored in the past I can mostly ignore it in the future.

Which is exactly why I was comfortable doing it... It seemed to entertain others while not really being at your expense...

 

[nefansince75]

I get trying to have the opponent think of other things but we showed them what we are going do so they might in fact be ready for them.. Heck.. If they didn't work against the Jets (with the exception of the first one) why would they work against the Chargers or anyone else?

It's not about whether they worked or not, it's about dictating how the defense approaches every play. In this case the defense has to play a little looser to be sure the trick plays are diagnosed and stopped. That gives the running game a little more room near the LOS and more opportunity for holes to exist. I think we can all see the biggest issue for the Pats run game is not what happens once a RB finds a hole.

 

[redseat]

It's not about whether they worked or not, it's about dictating how the defense approaches every play. In this case the defense has to play a little looser to be sure the trick plays are diagnosed and stopped. That gives the running game a little more room near the LOS and more opportunity for holes to exist. I think we can all see the biggest issue for the Pats run game is not what happens once a RB finds a hole.

Ok that is a good explanation for it

 

[BigKen]

The first one was great (because it worked) but to try it what 3 more times was a little dumb, especially since they were not needed at all since they were blowing out the Jets

Because the first one worked and was totally out of left field, the idea was to throw more at them. It does give other teams something that will require them to actually work on because no matter how the Pats line up, they could throw something weird at you. Given that and the fact that they've gone to the Wildcat several times and they have two WRs that can throw the ball, The defense has to hesitate for just a split second when Mac tosses a lateral or does a two hand drop. Against any aggressive defense, they can be ball busters.

Think of it this way. Any time Mac throws a pass that's considered a lateral, attacking the guy who he threw the ball to could be an over-reaction to a possible pass downfield. Or is could be a lateral back to Mac and bomb downfield.

The more you show the more they have to prepare and it takes away from preparing more on the regular stuff.