Not one TD scored at the Wisconsin spring game

[ugafan6612]

How dare I think the guy who is on track to break the NCAA career YPC record is the best back in America?

Let me guess, "if he played in the SEC, he wouldn't accomplish anything."

Except, you know, in his last game he played South Carolina. And on 25 carries (less than Gurley got), he got 143 yards (more than Gurley got). But I'm sure he couldn't cut it, amirite?

1.you already lumped me in with some Team SEC moron

2. You know nothing of UGA football otherwise you'd know Gurley was out half the year and was pretty much at 80% at season's end so idk why you made that ridiculous comparison there from 1 similar team in a completely different situation. Also you're implying UGA's offense and O-line is the same as Wisconsin's

The fact that you think your team has the best starting AND backup RB in America is pure homerism.

 

[Smart]

I may say some homerish things, but calling our running backs the best group in America isn't anywhere near one of them. Melvin had the second-most yards last year of any returning player. He did it with 7.8 YPC, second-best in America. He's projected as a late 1st round pick, and he passes the eye test at an incredible level.

Corey Clement had over 500 yards on 8 YPC as a third-string situational guy. He's a hard-runner with more speed than people realize. Nobody thinks he is more than a slight downgrade from James White, who ended last year as the leading career rusher in college football. If there's a better backup than him anywhere, I'd like to see it.

Our team has a lot issues this year, but our RBs aren't one of them. Last year, we broke the record for yards by a pair of RB teammates in NCAA history. This year, there is a great chance that record will fall.

 

[Blackshirt]

And I'm at a loss why you are okay with showing B1G Championships but not with showing Rose Bowl berths. For the vast, vast majority of conference history, the B1G Championship was a lesser included prize of the Rose Bowl.

To act like making the Rose Bowl isn't an accomplishment but winning the B1G Championship is, is beyond illogical. Making the Rose Bowl means that you won the B1G Championship and won the tiebreaker with the other teams who won the championship.

It's objectively a greater accomplishment.

Not entirely true.

Celebrating that you made the Rose Bowl is a joke, celebrating Rose Bowl wins you could make an argument for, but you'd have to subject yourself to being a tier 3-4 football program to do so. Oklahoma and Nebraska could circle their stadium with 30 Orange Bowl appearances a piece and about 15-20 national championship appearances. Instead they only recognize Conference Championships and National Championships. If you didn't win anything why celebrate it?

 

[Red_Alert]

Like you said the Rose Bowl means you won the B1G ship, that's why they hang B1G ship banners. If you lose in the Rose Bowl, you lose...no way around it. When is losing good, no matter what game it is?

Yes, it's redundancy at best and fluff to give a false sense of pride.

I Googled a pic that showed all of the Rose Bowls they have listed in their stadium.

1953 - LOST to USC (0-7)
1960 - LOST to Washington (8-44) LMAO
1963 - LOST to USC (37-42)

1994 - WIN over UCLA (21-16)
1999 - WIN over UCLA (38-31)
2000 - WIN over Stanford (17-9)

2011 - LOST to TCU (19-21)
2012 - LOST to Oregon (38-45)
2013 - LOST to Stanford (14-20)

So of the 9 listed, only 3 were wins.

 

[The Derski]

Who cares about the rose bowl banners? Seriously. Not sure why there is a barrage of Husker fans trying to belittle Wisconsin. Maybe that 70-30 loss in the big ten title game a couple years ago still stings? Who knows?

 

[Red_Alert]

LAME to list bowl games that you lost. But like I said if you have to dig to give the fan base a false sense of pride, and deceive recruits, then so be it.

 

[trojanfan12]

They don't hang it because they lost. They hang it because we made the game. It's like saying that hanging a Final Four banner is honoring a loss. It's clearly not. It's honoring an accomplishment. And in some cases (such as the 2010 season) the Rose Bowl is a bigger accomplishment.

If you want to call out anything, it should be the B1G Championship banner, but nobody is saying that. The reason is that they think winning a conference (even if you lose the Rose Bowl tiebreaker) is an accomplishment worth celebrating.

So somehow you have two different accomplishments. Celebrating the lesser one is okay. But celebrating the greater one is a "participation ribbon." Again, classic Nebraska logic.

So they're participation trophies then?

 

[Red_Alert]

Who cares about the rose bowl banners? Seriously. Not sure why there is a barrage of Husker fans trying to belittle Wisconsin. Maybe that 70-30 loss in the big ten title game a couple years ago still stings? Who knows?

Nothing but a distraction from the facts at hand.

Should Nebraska hang banners for its Rose Bowl losses (1941 Stanford) and (2001 Miami) in it's stadium?

Of course not. That would be fucking LAME.

 

[Blackshirt]

Also Smart, comparing college football banners to basketball banners is a completely different animal.

 

[The Derski]

Nothing but a distraction from the facts at hand.

Should Nebraska hang banners for its Rose Bowl losses (1941 Stanford) and (2001 Miami) in it's stadium?

Of course not. That would be fucking LAME.

Not as lame as making threads trying to belittle a team that has gone 2-1 against you since you joined the conference, winning those two games by 31 and 39 respectively.

 

[Smart]

So, again, what is your message to all the teams that hang Final Four banners? You guys are missing the point that making the Rose Bowl isn't decided by picking a team out of a fucking hat. It is earned.

And yes, it is harder to earn a Rose Bowl trip than win the B1G Championship. Look at our banners. In 1952, Purdue had the same record as us. They were B1G Champions. But they weren't deemed worthy to play in the Rose Bowl. In 1993, we had the same record as Ohio State, but they weren't deemed worthy. In 2010, we had the same record as Ohio State and Michigan State, but because we had the highest BCS rank, only we made the Rose Bowl.

We had a better season than them, which is what got us our spot in the game. Whether you win or lose has nothing to do with the fact that when you make the Rose Bowl, it means you were the best team in the B1G. That's worthy of a banner, and though they are duplicitous in our case (because we never lost a Rose Bowl tiebreaker), it makes it clear that we had a better season than 1952 Purdue, 1993 Ohio State, 2010 Ohio State, and 2010 Michigan State.

The fact that you are attacking the Rose Bowl banners and not the lesser accomplishment (the Big Ten Championship banners) tells me you still are;t understanding this concept that making a Rose Bowl is greater than winning the B1G title.

 

[Blackshirt]

Not as lame as making threads trying to belittle a team that has gone 2-1 against you since you joined the conference, winning those two games by 31 and 39 respectively.

2-1 since we joined the conference lol...let's wait some more years before we throw out records. There has been 3 games played lol. Sure we've gotten smashed in two of them but our program isn't exactly where we want it to be, Wisconsin on the other hand you could make an argument for basking in the prime of their programs history.

 

[Blackshirt]

So, again, what is your message to all the teams that hang Final Four banners? You guys are missing the point that making the Rose Bowl isn't decided by picking a team out of a fucking hat. It is earned.

And yes, it is harder to earn a Rose Bowl trip than win the B1G Championship. Look at our banners. In 1952, Purdue had the same record as us. They were B1G Champions. But they weren't deemed worthy to play in the Rose Bowl. In 1993, we had the same record as Ohio State, but they weren't deemed worthy. In 2010, we had the same record as Ohio State and Michigan State, but because we had the highest BCS rank, only we made the Rose Bowl.

We had a better season than them, which is what got us our spot in the game. Whether you win or lose has nothing to do with the fact that when you make the Rose Bowl, it means you were the best team in the B1G. That's worthy of a banner, and though they are duplicitous in our case (because we never lost a Rose Bowl tiebreaker), it makes it clear that we had a better season than 1952 Purdue, 1993 Ohio State, 2010 Ohio State, and 2010 Michigan State.

The fact that you are attacking the Rose Bowl banners and not the lesser accomplishment (the Big Ten Championship banners) tells me you still are;t understanding this concept that making a Rose Bowl is greater than winning the B1G title.

Um, completely different animal.

It is so much more difficult to make a final 4 or win a championship in basketball than it is in football. There is waaaaaaaaaaaaay more parity in basketball, and you have to get hot at the right time.


What is making the Rose Bowl historically so difficult to achieve? All Wisconsin's ever had to do was beat out Michigan or Ohio State for it. Don't compare contesting with 2 other teams for a conference title as difficult as an entire field of teams locked into a tournament.

 

[Smart]

Again, what the fuck does the national title in 1997 have to do with 2014? I was even willing to indulge your arguments in 2009 and 2010 when recruits could still remember a time when Nebraska was considered an elite program. We are past that point.

At this point, you guys (the intense fans) are the only thing keeping Nebraska from turning into Minnesota. And when your response to arguments about the present is "yeah, but we were good in the 1990s" it starts to sound more and more ridiculous to recruits every year. Why should they care about things that happened around the time they were born?

 

[wiskyisgood12]

Let's all be perfectly honest here, wide receiver play is the biggest weakness of the program right now. There are 5 talented receivers coming into the program this fall, if 2 of them can step up and be big play guys this offense can be special. Someone has to establish himself at quarterback, yesterday I saw a lot of good things from Tanner McEvoy.

Melvin Gordon and Corey Clement are still on the program and are both still very good running backs.

It's correct that there were no touchdowns in the 2nd half of the game, however in the first half there were several touchdowns. The 1st half was called a move the ball drill, and they were done in a confined environment. Kenzel Doe caught a touchdown pass, Corey Clement ran for a touchdown. Tanner McEvoy also ran for a touchdown.

 

[Bamabino]

No TD's in a spring game, no biggy. Urban Headcase showcasing team speed against the student body and losing, biggy.

 

[Smart]

What is making the Rose Bowl historically so difficult to achieve? All Wisconsin's ever had to do was beat out Michigan or Ohio State for it. Don't compare contesting with 2 other teams for a conference title as difficult as an entire field of teams locked into a tournament.

All of this would be a fine argument if you were arguing that conference championship trophies and Rose Bowl banners were stupid, but you aren't. What makes the B1G Championship so hard to accomplish? Why is that okay to hang (even though it is easier traditionally than the Rose Bowl) but the Rose Bowl isn't.

That's why you argument is so fucking nonsensical. If your point was "elite teams don't consider a conference championship a big accomplishment, so LOL @ Wisconsin," that's fine.

The problem is you can't fucking say that because your team hasn't even done that since 1999. And you clearly care because Brasky bitches about the Nebraska-Texas game about three times a week. So instead of making a reasoned argument that makes both our programs look like shit, you decide to make an incongruous argument that somehow it is lame to celebrate an accomplishment which is bigger than one you readily agree teams should celebrate.

You'd rather be a hypocrite than tell yourself that your program is on our level. I can't blame you. If I were a Nebraska fan, I'd be in denial too.

 

[Red_Alert]

Not as lame as making threads trying to belittle a team that has gone 2-1 against you since you joined the conference, winning those two games by 31 and 39 respectively.

Yes, Nebraska went (1-2) against Wisconsin in 2011/2012 in ugly fashion. They are (4-4) against them all-time with two of the wins being (37-0) and (31-3). However, those wins are meaningless. Feel better?

Now let's get back to topic.

Wisconsin scored zero TD's in a live scrimmage.
Wisconsin fan support sucked ass at said scrimmage.
Wisconsin hanging Rose Bowl loss banners in their stadium is LAME.

That beating Nebraska (like many others have done in the last 15 years) is such a big deal, clearly explains why Wisconsin is compelled to hang participation banners for losses in their stadium.

 

[TexasExes98]

And I'm at a loss why you are okay with showing B1G Championships but not with showing Rose Bowl berths. For the vast, vast majority of conference history, the B1G Championship was a lesser included prize of the Rose Bowl.

To act like making the Rose Bowl isn't an accomplishment but winning the B1G Championship is, is beyond illogical. Making the Rose Bowl means that you won the B1G Championship and won the tiebreaker with the other teams who won the championship.

It's objectively a greater accomplishment.

Does anybody remember the last time the Corn Holers played in a BCS bowl?

 

[Red_Alert]

So, again, what is your message to all the teams that hang Final Four banners? You guys are missing the point that making the Rose Bowl isn't decided by picking a team out of a fucking hat. It is earned.

And yes, it is harder to earn a Rose Bowl trip than win the B1G Championship. Look at our banners. In 1952, Purdue had the same record as us. They were B1G Champions. But they weren't deemed worthy to play in the Rose Bowl. In 1993, we had the same record as Ohio State, but they weren't deemed worthy. In 2010, we had the same record as Ohio State and Michigan State, but because we had the highest BCS rank, only we made the Rose Bowl.

We had a better season than them, which is what got us our spot in the game. Whether you win or lose has nothing to do with the fact that when you make the Rose Bowl, it means you were the best team in the B1G. That's worthy of a banner, and though they are duplicitous in our case (because we never lost a Rose Bowl tiebreaker), it makes it clear that we had a better season than 1952 Purdue, 1993 Ohio State, 2010 Ohio State, and 2010 Michigan State.

The fact that you are attacking the Rose Bowl banners and not the lesser accomplishment (the Big Ten Championship banners) tells me you still are;t understanding this concept that making a Rose Bowl is greater than winning the B1G title.

The Big 10 champ has gotten an AUTOMATIC Rose Bowl slot regardless of record for decades now. Who were they competing against for that slot, 9 other teams? Not the other 100+ CFB teams out there.

Yeah that's earned.

A participation banner for a bowl slot limited to 9 teams.

LMAO!!!!