No deadline set for Coyotes new franchise

[mattola]

so this is actually possible that they move again?

 

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so this is actually possible that they move again?

Who really knows at this point? I'm sure they could play a couple of seasons at Key Arena in Seattle if they had to, it's not ideal, but it would also be a good test for Seattle NHL fans to show if they would support a NHL team.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Who really knows at this point? I'm sure they could play a couple of seasons at Key Arena in Seattle if they had to, it's not ideal, but it would also be a good test for Seattle NHL fans to show if they would support a NHL team.

jeez talk about history potentially repeating itself ... move a team ... have them play in the downtown of the new market for a couple seasons in an arena not designed for hockey ... then move them to the outskirts of the new market and into a brand new arena ... yikes

 

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jeez talk about history potentially repeating itself ... move a team ... have them play in the downtown of the new market for a couple seasons in an arena not designed for hockey ... then move them to the outskirts of the new market and into a brand new arena ... yikes

lol - No kidding. SoDo is the spot for the new arena, Tukwila would be the Glendale v2.0

 

[RP-29]

Maybe, just maybe, this soap opera will drag on long enough for the new arena to be built in Milwaukee?...

 

[forty_three]

jeez talk about history potentially repeating itself ... move a team ... have them play in the downtown of the new market for a couple seasons in an arena not designed for hockey ... then move them to the outskirts of the new market and into a brand new arena ... yikes

With the only difference being that the people where they are going now have actually heard of hockey.

 

[Sgt Brutus]

Glendale was a terrible location for the arena

 

[tducey]

Time for this saga to be over. Enough with the band aid solutions and find a long term answer for this team which will be in another city IMO.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

With the only difference being that the people where they are going now have actually heard of hockey.

another difference is the last time it happened the city the team moved from actually cared that they were leaving town

 

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Non-hockey events, such as big-name concert acts, saw big increases in revenue, with the number of such events nearly doubling from seven to 13. That is not enough to offset the losses from hockey, though.

The Coyotes performed poorly on the ice, missing the playoffs for the third straight season, and finished one spot above last place in the National Hockey League.

The Coyotes can end the arena deal after the 2017-18 season if its combined losses exceed $50 million over the first five years of the arena agreement. Its first-year losses were $34.8 million.

Coyotes attendance, revenue dips for Glendale arena

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

7 to 13? That's, uh, not a lot.

 

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The irony is that the city that ends up getting the Coyotes in 2018 is likely going to have a pretty good team based on their prospect pool.

 

[mattola]

The irony is that the city that ends up getting the Coyotes in 2018 is likely going to have a pretty good team based on their prospect pool.

<cough>quebecnordiques</cough>

 

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<cough>quebecnordiques</cough>

Does that mean that Detroit is heading back to the Western Conference? Mr. Little Caesar won't like that.

 

[mattola]

Does that mean that Detroit is heading back to the Western Conference? Mr. Little Caesar won't like that.

I was more making reference to Colorado getting a playoff team ready for a cup and then fucking winning it in their first fucking year and them fucking thinking they actually built a fucking championship team over fucking years off another fans fucking dreams


<ahem>

 

[mattola]

but in all seriousness I would think Phx would go to Seattle if it happens and maybe the Panthers to Quebec. Luongo would love that I think

 

[esls79]

I was more making reference to Colorado getting a playoff team ready for a cup and then fucking winning it in their first fucking year and them fucking thinking they actually built a fucking championship team over fucking years off another fans fucking dreams


<ahem>

Are you still pissed the Dives haven't retired Shane O'Brien's jersey yet?

/me too

 

[puckhead]

I was more making reference to Colorado getting a playoff team ready for a cup and then fucking winning it in their first fucking year and them fucking thinking they actually built a fucking championship team over fucking years off another fans fucking dreams


<ahem>

i like to refer to that as
"born on third base, and think they hit a triple."

as seen on a lot of trust fund kids.

 

[mattola]

i like to refer to that as
"born on third base, and think they hit a triple."

as seen on a lot of trust fund kids.

And donald trump

 

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Anthony LeBlanc of Ice Arizona (formerly of Ice Edge) is a snake oil salesman...Why do I say this? He paints a rosy financial picture of the Coyotes in this Sportsnet article:

Glendale to receive revenue increase from Coyotes - Sportsnet.ca

However, the money that is going back to Glendale is basically from non-hockey related events held at the Gila River Arena:

Here’s a more genuine Q&A about Y2 of Ice Arizona

Q: Are revenues up this year?
A: Yes. Approximately 17% higher than last year

Q: Are expenses also up this year?
A: Yes. Approximately 10% higher than last year because the AMF was pro-rata last year and full $15MM this year

Q: Are hockey revenues up?
A: No. They are not. Ticket and Parking are down from last year

Q: So where did the revenue increase come from?
A: Non-hockey event revenue is up.

Q: That’s great but couldn’t any arena manager program the arena for those types of events?
A: Yes. Of course they could

Q: And wouldn’t a legitimate arena manager share more non-hockey revenue than the surcharge and parking that IA sends to the city?
A: Yes. You can look up the RFPs to see exactly how much better those management offers were

Q: So when LeBlanc says revenues are up it has nothing to do with the Coyotes?
A: Not really, unless you believe that Taylor Swift will only perform at GRA if the team is a tenant of the building. The naming rights are worth about 3x more with a pro sports team in the building though.

Q: Anthony is bragging about money going to the city but in reality the city would far better off financially with one of the RFP vendors programming NHE instead of the $15MM AMF?
A: Yes. That is a fact

Q: The team is losing money, the city is losing money and this is all very positive?
A: According to Tony, yes.

Q: Well that’s pretty disingenuous?
A: Yes, it is.