NL West Talk

[Montalban]

I can name a bunch of guys who have done that just off the top of my head…

Hernandez
Eckersly
Clemens
Verlander
…

Is there an eye roll emoji here anywhere?

 

[Montalban]

Why does Buster Olney keep mentioning the Giants as the team that will get Judge next year. What am I missing? The Giants don’t spend that kind of money

 

[Montalban]

Kris Bryan has fallen off the earth. Glad now the Giants didn't try to re-sign him

 

[navamind]

Carlos Rodon Opts Out Of Contract

Giants starter Carlos Rodon has opted out of his contract and entered free agency, per Maria Guardado of MLB.com. Rodon …

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[catman]

Carlos Rodon Opts Out Of Contract

Giants starter Carlos Rodon has opted out of his contract and entered free agency, per Maria Guardado of MLB.com. Rodon …

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Not a real shock here. He's going to get a longer term contract. At 29, he should be good for another 6 years or so.

 

[navamind]

Not a real shock here. He's going to get a longer term contract. At 29, he should be good for another 6 years or so.

it's not. He's been great the last two years. His injury history still scares the crap out of me.

 

[calsnowskier]

I could see him getting 6/150 or something in that neighborhood. Dude was nailz this season.

 

[Montalban]

Carlos Rodon Opts Out Of Contract

Giants starter Carlos Rodon has opted out of his contract and entered free agency, per Maria Guardado of MLB.com. Rodon …

www.mlbtraderumors.com

Too bad. he was a pleasant surprise this year

 

[Montalban]

Completely underwhelmed by the Giants signings. Another loser year in the league's toughest division.

 

[msgkings322]

I could see him getting 6/150 or something in that neighborhood. Dude was nailz this season.

Gonna be like 7/205 LOL

 

[Montalban]

I wonder if Correa will play third base this year since Crawford is still here

 

[navamind]

all the ZiPS projections are out for the NL West teams.

2023 ZiPS Projections: San Francisco Giants

The Giants are sturdily built but they’re a star or two short on offense.

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2023 ZiPS Projections: Arizona Diamondbacks

I swear, the Diamondbacks did not sponsor these projections!

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2023 ZiPS Projections: Colorado Rockies

A lot would have to go right for the Rockies to keep them out of last place in 2023.

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2023 ZiPS Projections: San Diego Padres

The Padres are a top-tier contender, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t places with obvious needs.

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2023 ZiPS Projections: Los Angeles Dodgers

The Dodgers are wounded, but they remain an extremely dangerous team.

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Should be a fun division in 2023!

 

[nynasty]

Gavin Lux torn ACL, out for the year.

 

[calsnowskier]

The human in me says “dude, that sucks.” And I want to embrace THAT reaction.

But the Giants fan in me is dancing with schadenfreude. I am not proud. And I want to avoid this reaction, but if I am being honest, it is there.

 

[Montalban]

Gavin Lux torn ACL, out for the year.

Any time I hear "non contact" injury I know its bad. They won't miss a beat without him though. They are so stacked.

 

[Montalban]

The human in me says “dude, that sucks.” And I want to embrace THAT reaction.

But the Giants fan in me is dancing with schadenfreude. I am not proud. And I want to avoid this reaction, but if I am being honest, it is there.

I might feel that way if it was Mookie Betts or Freddie Freeman but Lutz? Nah; they won't miss him at all.

 

[calsnowskier]

I might feel that way if it was Mookie Betts or Freddie Freeman but Lutz? Nah; they won't miss him at all.

He is supposed to be a huge prospect for them. They were “ok” with losing Seager and Turner because they had him ready to take over.

He isnt established yet, sure. But he COULD develop into something special. Losing him hurts them.

 

[Montalban]

He is supposed to be a huge prospect for them. They were “ok” with losing Seager and Turner because they had him ready to take over.

He isnt established yet, sure. But he COULD develop into something special. Losing him hurts them.

I think Turner was supposed to be the shortstop but then he unexpectedly signed with Philly' Lutz I think was a stop gap. Their minor league system is so good that they probably have a hot shot in waiting down there but if not, they won't need any production from him since the rest of their lineup is so dominant.

 

[calsnowskier]

I think Turner was supposed to be the shortstop but then he unexpectedly signed with Philly' Lutz I think was a stop gap. Their minor league system is so good that they probably have a hot shot in waiting down there but if not, they won't need any production from him since the rest of their lineup is so dominant.

I have no idea who “Lutz” is. But Lux is the hotshot you are referring to.

 

[navamind]

Depth Charts - Projected Standings | FanGraphs Baseball

2025 projected standings for major league baseball teams

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It's so crazy seeing the Dodgers pegged for only 86 wins. I still think they win more than that (I'd say 91-93) but this does feel like the weakest Dodgers team in a while, even before the Lux injury. They've still got Freeman/Smith/Betts/Muncy, but there's a fair amount of uncertainty at the other positions, especially LF/CF. Even Muncy is coming off a down year. The rotation should still be among the best in the NL, but I expect some real regression (particularly Urias/Gonsolin) and they also lost Anderson/Heaney.

Could be a crazy NL West race.