NL Central thread

[BrockForBroglio]

I love seeing Montgomery pitch so well for STL. Nice to get the better end of a trade. Granted Bader hadn't played yet, but I doubt he makes the impact for the Yankees that Montgomery has does for STL.

 

[catman]

Bader is a tremendous defender in CF with an "iffy" bat at times. Montgomery was underachieving with the Yankees and has done well in St Louis. Perhaps he was just not cut out for the bright lights of New York?

 

[navamind]

It's not like Montgomery was a scrub for the Yanks... he had a 108 ERA+ in NY. He did miss a lot of time in 2018-19, and the COVID shortened 2020 season probably further fucked with his development.

 

[catman]

It's not like Montgomery was a scrub for the Yanks... he had a 108 ERA+ in NY. He did miss a lot of time in 2018-19, and the COVID shortened 2020 season probably further fucked with his development.

219 ERA+ with the Cardinals. Small sample size, I know, but it is a whole lot better. 108 is 3rd starter level, IMO.

 

[navamind]

219 ERA+ with the Cardinals. Small sample size, I know, but it is a whole lot better. 108 is 3rd starter level, IMO.

FWIW, Monty had a 5 game stretch earlier in the season with a 1.95 ERA.

I hope he keeps it up though.

 

[jwolt92]

219 ERA+ with the Cardinals. Small sample size, I know, but it is a whole lot better. 108 is 3rd starter level, IMO.

Just a quick stat check.. there are currently less than 40 pitchers with an ERA+ over 100 according to baseball reference. Exactly 35 over the 108 threshold. Granted this is only among qualifying pitchers, but 108 would be most teams best starter and almost all's second best. Hardly 3rd starter level

 

[catman]

Just a quick stat check.. there are currently less than 40 pitchers with an ERA+ over 100 according to baseball reference. Exactly 35 over the 108 threshold. Granted this is only among qualifying pitchers, but 108 would be most teams best starter and almost all's second best. Hardly 3rd starter level

This is why I said that it was my opinion. Can we agree that he is performing better in St. Louis than he did in New York?

 

[jwolt92]

This is why I said that it was my opinion. Can we agree that he is performing better in St. Louis than he did in New York?

Obviously but this is close to Arrieta's run in 2015 when he won the Cy Young award with his 2 month stretch from August to the end of the year

 

[navamind]

Obviously but this is close to Arrieta's run in 2015 when he won the Cy Young award with his 2 month stretch from August to the end of the year

I forgot about that run. 0.41 ERA over 88.1 innings! That's a pretty good sample size too. Went 6+ in all 12 starts and had five consecutive starts where he went 8+. He had 17 consecutive starts where he went 6+ innings.

That was a very fun Cy Young race. Of course, Greinke went 6+ in *every* start that year. He only had two starts that weren't quality starts. Kershaw had a spectacular year even if it wasn't quite up to par with 2013/14.

 

[jwolt92]

I forgot about that run. 0.41 ERA over 88.1 innings! That's a pretty good sample size too. Went 6+ in all 12 starts and had five consecutive starts where he went 8+. He had 17 consecutive starts where he went 6+ innings.

That was a very fun Cy Young race. Of course, Greinke went 6+ in *every* start that year. He only had two starts that weren't quality starts. Kershaw had a spectacular year even if it wasn't quite up to par with 2013/14.

Without a doubt one of the most dominant stretches in the last 20 years, maybe more. Still think Greinke's entire year should have outweighed a dominant 2 month stretch, but that's also a little bit of a salty feeling that he was on the Cubs.

 

[Tai Chi≈Surfing]

Albert hit #695 earlier today.....

Feeling more excitement, urgency, Pujols hits HR No. 695

ST. LOUIS -- Some 40-plus hours before Albert Pujols rose to the occasion, met the moment again and ultimately crushed the 695th home run of his career Sunday, the legendary slugger picked up on a distinctly different vibe wafting through the humid air at Busch Stadium. That palatable feeling was

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[navamind]

3 home run night for Kolten Wong

 

[packerzrule]

 

[Fish]

Albert hit #695 earlier today.....

Feeling more excitement, urgency, Pujols hits HR No. 695

ST. LOUIS -- Some 40-plus hours before Albert Pujols rose to the occasion, met the moment again and ultimately crushed the 695th home run of his career Sunday, the legendary slugger picked up on a distinctly different vibe wafting through the humid air at Busch Stadium. That palatable feeling was

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Up to 703 now.

 

[BrockForBroglio]

Up to 703 now.

and he passed Ruth in RBI

 

[catman]

Nolan Arrenado has announced that he is staying in St Louis rather than opting out of his contract. And why not? St Louis is one of the finest baseball cities in the country.

 

[navamind]

2023 ZiPS Projections: Chicago Cubs

The Cubs look like a .500ish team, which makes you relevant in a Central division.

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2023 ZiPS Projections: Cincinnati Reds

Cincinnati's rotation has some interesting names, but the offense projects at the bottom of the league in production.

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2023 ZiPS Projections: Milwaukee Brewers

The Brewers are solidly built but they're missing the high-end offensive talent that would put the team in the top tier of contenders.

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2023 ZiPS Projections: Pittsburgh Pirates

After the Cincinnati projections, Pittsburgh's are almost an intolerable déluge of sunshine and rainbows. Relatively speaking.

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2023 ZiPS Projections: St. Louis Cardinals

ZiPS typically likes the Cardinals. It really really really likes them this year. Really really.

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[navamind]

yikes. I feel for Brewers fans.

 

[catman]

yikes. I feel for Brewers fans.

How in the world did the Brewers allow $750K to cause this sort of hard feelings with this guy? Maybe they could offer him a really good 5-7 year contract and sign him long-term?

 

[catman]

And according to MLB Traderumors, the Cardinals won their arbitration hearing with Ryan Helsey -- $2.15MM as opposed to the $3MM he wanted.