Nfl using breast cancer awareness month

[boltfan72]

The NFL is a business. Who the hell is this nobody blogger to question it? They donate money to breast cancer research, and make money by selling more stuff. Win win. After browsing through some of her other articles it seems she is all about criticizing others in a foul mouth style. Bitch needs to get laid.

I'm going to buy a pink hat for me and Mrs. Boltfan right now just because of this moron's idiocy.

And since 5% is going to charity, I'll deduct that portion from my taxes. Win-win-win.

 

[boltfan72]

If you haven't seen any breasts in the NFL then you haven't been paying attention....

Now who wouldn't want to fork over a little cash to save those babies?

Well played my friend.

 

[JDM]

Having a breast cancer awareness month gives the NFL the opportunity to sell many more items than they would be able to.

Do you think the NFL would have a month devoted to pink items and not related to Breast Cancer Awareness? I don't think people are buying these items instead of their normal gear, I think they're buying them because the items are different than what they already have. I also don't think MLB could sell these hats if the players weren't wearing them on the field.

I think they could sell them by putting them on the field without breast cancer. And yes, some people do buy those instead of "normal" gear.

 

[Breaker99]

Don't buy it, I don't care. Most of America is so happy to hand dollars over like crazy to anything cancer related. My aunt was a regional director for the American Cancer Society. If you like to make a lot of money, it is definitely a "company" to work for. You have no clue just how little your dollars do for those with cancer.

You think mammograms are that fucking important? the only reason they are is because a cancer society that exists soley to make money off breast cancer has spent decades pounding it into your brain and you bought it. Many, and there are many, highly respected and at the top of the field in cancer research that have said and shown that mammograms are practically useless. But you'll never see that on a football sunday. or in any ad campaign.


and your early detection? truth is we still have no idea if it's helping anything or not. You probably wouldn't know because you're educated by the ad campaigns that exist to raise more and more money. when you factor in false positives, the treatments and surgeries for nothing, the fact that a lot of these cancers they do treat and are "successful" with are cancers that never would have done a thing had they never went looking. So was it really a success? and there are a lot they don't find on any screening and 6 months later the woman has less than a year to live.

those that research know, the public gives their "efforts" way too much credit. Largely thanks to ad campaigns like this. But if they're honest, they're marginalized by media, if what they say even makes the media. Most say nothing, because their paychecks depend on the perception, not the reality. Which is fine, they're actually working on cancer. But there is a gigantic bloated money sucking cow that makes many rich just for helping get other rich off the despair and hope of others. They've never even picked up a pipette let alone tried to splice genes into a virus that will attack a cancer cell. They've probably never even seen a cancer cell differntiated from a healthy one, but their rich off cancer none the less.

Give you money, buy your pink shit, feel good about yourself in thinking you're actually doing anything.

I would clearly be wasting my time in pointing out the numerous fallacies present in your rant. So I will just pick one to make my point...

and your early detection? truth is we still have no idea if it's helping anything or not. You probably wouldn't know because you're educated by the ad campaigns that exist to raise more and more money.

No, I know this, because two of my sisters have had breast cancer (one of whom died) and my mom had breast cancer. And my step father was an oncologist.

If you honestly think that we don't have any idea that if you catch cancer early it improves your odds for survival.... then you are just demanding people accept your ignorance.

 

[boltfan72]

I thought the ad the NFL ran last night with the Jets fan that decided to check herself after watching her team run around in pink gear was pretty powerful. I'm sure the asshats in this thread will find a way to criticize it, but if their campaign saved one life then the critics can... well, fuck off.

 

[Bunkamania]

They're the NFL and can do as they please. I didn't really care for the hot pink penalty flags too much because there were players wearing towels and what not that looked exactly the same.

 

[Mondio]

I would clearly be wasting my time in pointing out the numerous fallacies present in your rant. So I will just pick one to make my point...



No, I know this, because two of my sisters have had breast cancer (one of whom died) and my mom had breast cancer. And my step father was an oncologist.

If you honestly think that we don't have any idea that if you catch cancer early it improves your odds for survival.... then you are just demanding people accept your ignorance.

I honestly think it probably helps a few. I honestly think a lot are over treated because of screening. I honestly feel that the deadliest cancers don't give a shit about screening and catch it or don't, the end result is the same. I honestly think far too many people make way too much money tugging at heart strings for something they have an extremely small impact on. I honestly think many jump on the breast cancer ad campaign platform because it will make them more money.

Early detection today means they find something that most likely hasn't caused any problems yet in someone young. Detection before meant it was causing an issue and they went looking for it. Can you tell the difference? There's a difference between finding it at age 35 or 55.

Finding something at age 40 that isn't causing a problem and removing it may help, it may not have, but what it will do is pump up the "cure" rate. What if they still die at age 60? or 55? did it really help anything? or did it just pump up the cure rate a bit more because they lived another 5 years. Don't think this happens? and the ones that are cured and live to 80, how do you know they would have died without treatment. We do know that women have breast cancer and live a complete and full life with zero treatment all the time. almost everybody has cancer cells of sort almost every day of their life. We know, that we know very little about what makes cancers turn nasty, how to differentiate between aggressive and ones we can probably leave alone in "early detection". There's a lot we don't know. ANd most of your money would be better off going to people trying to figure that out. If it was, I wouldn't have much of a problem with it. But it doesn't, not by a long shot. Most of your money goes to someone that has nothing to do with anything cancer related other than they make a ton of money from it. If that makes you feel better, good for you.

Tell me all about what I don't know and my ignorance. I'm guessing your'e one of the many that's wouldn't know the difference between a cancer cell and and healthy one.

 

[Mondio]

I thought the ad the NFL ran last night with the Jets fan that decided to check herself after watching her team run around in pink gear was pretty powerful. I'm sure the asshats in this thread will find a way to criticize it, but if their campaign saved one life then the critics can... well, fuck off.

you give way to much credit and power to "checking herself" and when one family is ripped a part by a cancer diagnosis that is false, well, you can fuck off. and when perfectly healthy women are cutting their boobs off because some poorly misunderstood science said they should, you can fuck off too. and when another is given cancer from years of ionizing radiation (a very unreliable screen, almost as worthless as the psa test for prostate cancer) you'll fuck off again right?

All very plausible outcomes and they do happen. But we'll ignore those right? So you can feel better about your pink jersey

Mammograms are pumped down the throats of America because it's what we have developed and have access to, not because it's very good at its job. I know the money machines driven by cancer money try and teach you otherwise, but most of those that actually do research think differently.

For every "saved" person, there are people that are hurt. The difference may be huge to that one person, but what about everybody else? they don't count? How many surgeries and rounds of chemo would you like to go thru needlessly so another woman can be "saved"?

 

[Breaker99]

Mondio,

It's all about getting cancer before it spreads to your lymph nodes. My mother who is 70 survived breast cancer at 60 because they found it early. My sister was less fortunate, they didn't find it till it had spread all over her body. After an 8 year battle and after having had a part of every major organ sliced off she died at 32 years old. Last year my mom tripped and cracked a rib, in the ex rays they saw a spot in her lung. Turned out to be cancer and was very small but aggressive type that had was caught early enough before it spread. Doctor told me it would have spread from how fast it grew in the one month from when they detected it to when they took it out and that her tripping and getting an X-Ray saved her life.


And yes your remarks are ignorant and based on nothing more than your lack of experience and understanding.

 

[Mondio]

I'm sorry, but the only type of screening that has shown any benefit is a PAP smear, that is it. Mammograms? please, you can drop your chances from 7 out of every 1,000 people to 6 out of every 1,000. How many in that 1,000 do you think are harmed to save that one, none? how many false positives? how much money spent? how many organs removed? how many other cancers caused by the ionizing radiation from a mammogram. It happens, you like to ignore it.

My lack of experience and understanding? Your'e funny. A doctor told you he saved your mom's life, you believe him. That's your understanding and experience. you basically have none. It's apparent because you haven't even been able to try and understand what i've been saying. You know too little to even connect 2 dots.

but continue to buy your pink jersey, you're saving lives

 

[Steelboy84]

I'm more interested in seeing if the NFL can come up with catchy campaign for colon cancer.

"Like Ike Taylor on INTs, do all you can not to catch it!"

 

[BOSSMANPC]

September is prostrate cancer month does the WNBA players wear blue ribbons?

 

[richig07]

Yup.

Only 5% of merchandise profits goes towards breast cancer. The rest helps owners get more rich.

It's a cause no one won't get behind. The perfect disease to exploit. Nobody doesn't like boobies. Not to mention, it increases female viewership.

It's a total scam.

You'll never see the NFL do a prostate cancer awareness month. Guy's rectums don't sell.

 

[Breaker99]

I'm sorry, but the only type of screening that has shown any benefit is a PAP smear, that is it. Mammograms? please, you can drop your chances from 7 out of every 1,000 people to 6 out of every 1,000. How many in that 1,000 do you think are harmed to save that one, none? how many false positives? how much money spent? how many organs removed? how many other cancers caused by the ionizing radiation from a mammogram. It happens, you like to ignore it.

My lack of experience and understanding? Your'e funny. A doctor told you he saved your mom's life, you believe him. That's your understanding and experience. you basically have none. It's apparent because you haven't even been able to try and understand what i've been saying. You know too little to even connect 2 dots.

but continue to buy your pink jersey, you're saving lives

First of all the doctor didn't tell me that he saved my moms life, he told me that her falling and cracking a rib and the xrays that followed saved her life because thats how they found the cancer. Furthermore, the doctor who told me this was my step fathers partner, and fellow oncologist who I have known all my life.

Secondly your figures are basically total fucking bullshit.

Just looking at breast cancer.... The five year survival rate is as follows..



Stage
0 100%

I 100%

II 93%

III 72%

IV 22%


I will even link an actual source... The american cancer society... Survival rates for breast cancer


But keep talking about how early detection of cancer is unimportant and make yourself look a baffoon if you want to. What kind of dick goes around trying to convince people not to get regular checkups for any kind of common cancer such as breast, colon, or prostate? You are the first one I have heard say such a fucking stupid thing.

 

[Breaker99]

Yup.

Only 5% of merchandise profits goes towards breast cancer. The rest helps owners get more rich.

It's a cause no one won't get behind. The perfect disease to exploit. Nobody doesn't like boobies. Not to mention, it increases female viewership.

It's a total scam.

You'll never see the NFL do a prostate cancer awareness month. Guy's rectums don't sell.

whatever percent it is, last year the donation was 5.4 million to the American Cancer Society. You think it would be better if they didn't give that money to them?

 

[Breaker99]

September is prostrate cancer month does the WNBA players wear blue ribbons?

Yes, a very good rule to live by.... never do anything for someone unless they have done it for you first (especially when it comes to women).

 

[Southieinnc]

But keep talking about how early detection of cancer is unimportant and make yourself look a baffoon if you want to. What kind of dick goes around trying to convince people not to get regular checkups for any kind of common cancer such as breast, colon, or prostate? You are the first one I have heard say such a fucking stupid thing.

I'm scaring myself here but I agree with breaker. I lost my wife, 3 sisters, my father, my uncle, father in law and who knows how many more to Cancer. Breast cancer is one form we have made great progress in.

Virtually all charities are moneymaking businesses. Should they not get paid because they are working for a good cause?

 

[HaroldSeattle]

I'm scaring myself here but I agree with breaker. I lost my wife, 3 sisters, my father, my uncle, father in law and who knows how many more to Cancer. Breast cancer is one form we have made great progress in.

Virtually all charities are moneymaking businesses. Should they not get paid because they are working for a good cause?

Not often you'll find me agreeing with Breaker, but he's right and how anyone can argue , is puzzling.

 

[JDM]

You honestly think that after a mammogram they just cut you open without more tests?

 

[Breaker99]

You honestly think that after a mammogram they just cut you open without more tests?

You ever see that skit on SNL about Tippy? The socially awkward women who constantly says things that are not relevant to the conversation?

 

[Wazmankg]

Any charitable effort where the proceeds that actually go to the charity approach anywhere near as low as 5% are rightly considered quite ethically corrupt.