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Interesting verbiage ‘wherever I’m gonna be…’
 

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I'd give Vegas our #1 right now.
Will turn 28 just before the season starts next year. Really high motor. Reminds me of some of my motorcycle buddy's. I don't expect it but I wouldn't mind.
 

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Will turn 28 just before the season starts next year. Really high motor. Reminds me of some of my motorcycle buddy's. I don't expect it but I wouldn't mind.
You get Crosby in here you can start having deep playoff run conversations. An absolute dog with like you said, the highest of motors.

Probably cost us a 1st, a 3rd, and a future pick.
 

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I dont see why AP would gut his draft - giving up two top 100 picks - for a player who wont move the needle that much in terms of overall defense.

Not that Maxx Crosby isnt good - he is - but he isnt 1st and 3rd rounder good. He also wouldnt be going to a team that is only missing a dlineman.

We’d still be stuck with a sieve like secondary, and would have two less picks to address it with.

Hard hard pass at that price.
 

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I dont see why AP would gut his draft - giving up two top 100 picks - for a player who wont move the needle that much in terms of overall defense.

Not that Maxx Crosby isnt good - he is - but he isnt 1st and 3rd rounder good. He also wouldnt be going to a team that is only missing a dlineman.

We’d still be stuck with a sieve like secondary, and would have two less picks to address it with.

Hard hard pass at that price.
Is he really gutting it if we still have a 2nd and a 3rd to play with? I don't see him getting moved anyway.

What if I worded it like this: Would you trade a 1st in the mid 20s and Jahan Dotson for Crosby?
 

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I must have misread. I thought the deal that was mentioned was a first, third, and future pick for Crosby.

I’m not sure I’d trade a first for him either though, considering AP is batting 1.000 with his first round picks.
 

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I must have misread. I thought the deal that was mentioned was a first, third, and future pick for Crosby.

I’m not sure I’d trade a first for him either though, considering AP is batting 1.000 with his first round picks.
No, you read it correctly. I was kinda saying the 3rd we got from Philly for Jahan, so essentially a 1st and Jahan.

I do understand that Adam could probably get more out of a 3rd than Philly is getting out of Dotson.

I'd do it, but I understand those that wouldn't based on the current belief in Adam.

I'm just a huge Crosby fan. He's exactly the type of player Dan Quinn looks for.
 

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I dont see why AP would gut his draft - giving up two top 100 picks - for a player who wont move the needle that much in terms of overall defense.

Not that Maxx Crosby isnt good - he is - but he isnt 1st and 3rd rounder good. He also wouldnt be going to a team that is only missing a dlineman.

We’d still be stuck with a sieve like secondary, and would have two less picks to address it with.

Hard hard pass at that price.

this is the first time you've shocked me. maybe the draft comp is a bit much, but you put Maxx on a team that's already good, for instance...us...
he's myles garrett, TJ Watt....a game wrecker
 

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No, you read it correctly. I was kinda saying the 3rd we got from Philly for Jahan, so essentially a 1st and Jahan.

I do understand that Adam could probably get more out of a 3rd than Philly is getting out of Dotson.

I'd do it, but I understand those that wouldn't based on the current belief in Adam.

I'm just a huge Crosby fan. He's exactly the type of player Dan Quinn looks for.

there's only 2 guys better than Max right now at pass rusher
 

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this is the first time you've shocked me. maybe the draft comp is a bit much, but you put Maxx on a team that's already good, for instance...us...
he's myles garrett, TJ Watt....a game wrecker

His stats dont suggest that. He didnt seem like a game wrecker the last time the clmmanders played the raiders.

Granted: i dont remember when that was, and I also dont watch any raiders games.

I just am not sure who he makes better. I also remember when we supposedly had an all star dline and sucked because our secondary was garbage.

I guess I’m more inclined to see what AP can do with the draft picks it would take to get him.
 

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His stats dont suggest that. He didnt seem like a game wrecker the last time the clmmanders played the raiders.

Granted: i dont remember when that was, and I also dont watch any raiders games.

I just am not sure who he makes better. I also remember when we supposedly had an all star dline and sucked because our secondary was garbage.

I guess I’m more inclined to see what AP can do with the draft picks it would take to get him.

he would help the secondary tremendously -- that's who he makes better.
you could even say he's what we hoped Chase Young would have been.
his stats are great, i get it, you don't watch a lot of raiders games -- but Maxx is the real deal.
i respect your opinion, im just saying Maxx is the truth.
i'd be shocked if anyone would be angry -- if we got him with just a 1st.
i'm cool with drafting our own --- just saying Maxx is legit
 

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No, you read it correctly. I was kinda saying the 3rd we got from Philly for Jahan, so essentially a 1st and Jahan.

I do understand that Adam could probably get more out of a 3rd than Philly is getting out of Dotson.

I'd do it, but I understand those that wouldn't based on the current belief in Adam.

I'm just a huge Crosby fan. He's exactly the type of player Dan Quinn looks for.

That third is not Filthys.. it is ours. Jahan is gone so it is completely independent.
 

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Know nothing about this player but he was just released

 
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