NFL news thread

[countryroads316]

Who’d you take? I think he’d be better than stroud

Really? Stroud should be the best QB in the draft

 

[Rowdy]

Really? Stroud should be the best QB in the draft

No confidence in Ohio state qbs for me

 

[gkekoa]

No confidence in Ohio state qbs for me

Do you have confidence in Alabama QBs?

 

[Rowdy]

Do you have confidence in Alabama QBs?

Not really but I think young is better if he wasn’t so small

 

[gkekoa]

Not really but I think young is better if he wasn’t so small

But he is small. That will never change.

 

[skinsdad62]

i don’t want him to get seriously hurt but he is right

 

[Sportster 72]

NFC East​

Dallas Cowboys: Hiring Mike McCarthy

Jerry Jones is still on board. But the shortcomings that followed McCarthy to Dallas remain. The coach who went to a single Super Bowl in 13 seasons with Aaron Rodgers and authored one of the most egregious acts of game mismanagement in championship history continues to struggle with game management.

The narrative last season was that McCarthy needed a playoff win to save his job. He got it. But forgive us if a wild-card win over an 8-9 Bucs team doesn't inspire confidence. A sloppy divisional round loss to the 49ers tinged with — you guessed it — game mismanagement told the story.

Similar criticism used to follow Andy Reid in Philadelphia. He's evolved and re-written his story. But there are better strategies in Dallas than counting on McCarthy to do the same in his 20th season as an NFL head coach.

New York Giants: Going all in on Daniel Jones

Place this in the file of regrets to come. But pinning your future on Daniel Jones doesn't sound like a formula for success.

Just last offseason, the Giants didn't believe enough in Jones to pick up the fifth-year option on his rookie contract. Now they've signed the quarterback to a four-year deal after a season that saw him throw fewer touchdown passes (15) than he played games (16).

Jones is an effective runner and corrected the turnover issues that plagued him early in his career. But he remains a middling passer who led the league's 26th-ranked air attack in 2022. A surprise playoff run under first-year coach Brian Daboll forced the Giants' hand. Now Jones is their guy, for better or worse.

Philadelphia Eagles: Drafting Jalen Reagor over Justin Jefferson

The Eagles have done a lot right in recent years. But this one stings.

For years, the Eagles struggled to find anyone resembling a No. 1 receiver while failing to field a 1,000-yard producer at the position from 2015-21. It wasn't for lack of trying. They swung and missed with premium draft capital, landing Nelson Agholor (2015 first round) and J.J. Arcega-Whiteside (2019 second round). Alshon Jeffery was fine as a 2017 free agent acquisition, but not a true No. 1 option.

Then came the 2020 draft, where they had their pick of high-end options with the 21st pick. They selected Jalen Reagor. The 22nd pick? That was future Offensive Player of the Year Justin Jefferson. The next two receivers off the board were Brandon Aiyuk and Tee Higgins. Ouch. The Eagles, meanwhile, gave up on Reagor after two seasons and traded him to Minnesota.

Fortunately for the Eagles, they solved their woes in emphatic fashion. They finally hit in the draft with DeVonta Smith in 2021. He's now paired with 2022 trade acquisition A.J. Brown in one of the most feared tandems in football.

Washington Commanders: Trading for Carson Wentz

Where to start? No franchise in the NFL — in all of professional sports, perhaps — is more dysfunctional than the Washington Commanders and soon-to-be-former team owner Dan Snyder. For simplicity's sake, we'll keep this section focused on football-related shortcomings with the understanding that almost everything behind the scenes of the Snyder era is infinitely worse. Considering the perpetual state of football in D.C., that's saying a lot.

Carson Wentz remains a free agent after being released by Washington. (Scott Taetsch/Getty Images)
There's plenty to choose from here, but let's roll with the Carson Wentz trade as the embodiment of bad decision-making. Washington's rival Eagles invested heavily including the No. 2 pick of the 2016 draft to make Wentz their franchise quarterback. After five seasons and a Super Bowl win with an injured Wentz on the sideline, the Eagles waved the white flag and traded him to the Colts.

It took the Colts all of one season to realize that Wentz was not the answer. Owner Jim Irsay publicly called the Wentz era "a mistake" when it was over. Only a sucker would bail them out of the remainder of his four-year, $128 million contract and give them draft capital in return. Enter the Commanders.

Washington traded for Wentz last offseason. The returns were as expected. He was benched multiple times before Washington released him in February. He remains a free agent, while the remaining Washington fans are rejoicing over the news of an ownership change.

 

[skinsdad62]

NFC East​

Dallas Cowboys: Hiring Mike McCarthy

Jerry Jones is still on board. But the shortcomings that followed McCarthy to Dallas remain. The coach who went to a single Super Bowl in 13 seasons with Aaron Rodgers and authored one of the most egregious acts of game mismanagement in championship history continues to struggle with game management.

The narrative last season was that McCarthy needed a playoff win to save his job. He got it. But forgive us if a wild-card win over an 8-9 Bucs team doesn't inspire confidence. A sloppy divisional round loss to the 49ers tinged with — you guessed it — game mismanagement told the story.

Similar criticism used to follow Andy Reid in Philadelphia. He's evolved and re-written his story. But there are better strategies in Dallas than counting on McCarthy to do the same in his 20th season as an NFL head coach.

New York Giants: Going all in on Daniel Jones

Place this in the file of regrets to come. But pinning your future on Daniel Jones doesn't sound like a formula for success.

Just last offseason, the Giants didn't believe enough in Jones to pick up the fifth-year option on his rookie contract. Now they've signed the quarterback to a four-year deal after a season that saw him throw fewer touchdown passes (15) than he played games (16).

Jones is an effective runner and corrected the turnover issues that plagued him early in his career. But he remains a middling passer who led the league's 26th-ranked air attack in 2022. A surprise playoff run under first-year coach Brian Daboll forced the Giants' hand. Now Jones is their guy, for better or worse.

Philadelphia Eagles: Drafting Jalen Reagor over Justin Jefferson

The Eagles have done a lot right in recent years. But this one stings.

For years, the Eagles struggled to find anyone resembling a No. 1 receiver while failing to field a 1,000-yard producer at the position from 2015-21. It wasn't for lack of trying. They swung and missed with premium draft capital, landing Nelson Agholor (2015 first round) and J.J. Arcega-Whiteside (2019 second round). Alshon Jeffery was fine as a 2017 free agent acquisition, but not a true No. 1 option.

Then came the 2020 draft, where they had their pick of high-end options with the 21st pick. They selected Jalen Reagor. The 22nd pick? That was future Offensive Player of the Year Justin Jefferson. The next two receivers off the board were Brandon Aiyuk and Tee Higgins. Ouch. The Eagles, meanwhile, gave up on Reagor after two seasons and traded him to Minnesota.

Fortunately for the Eagles, they solved their woes in emphatic fashion. They finally hit in the draft with DeVonta Smith in 2021. He's now paired with 2022 trade acquisition A.J. Brown in one of the most feared tandems in football.

Washington Commanders: Trading for Carson Wentz

Where to start? No franchise in the NFL — in all of professional sports, perhaps — is more dysfunctional than the Washington Commanders and soon-to-be-former team owner Dan Snyder. For simplicity's sake, we'll keep this section focused on football-related shortcomings with the understanding that almost everything behind the scenes of the Snyder era is infinitely worse. Considering the perpetual state of football in D.C., that's saying a lot.

Carson Wentz remains a free agent after being released by Washington. (Scott Taetsch/Getty Images)
There's plenty to choose from here, but let's roll with the Carson Wentz trade as the embodiment of bad decision-making. Washington's rival Eagles invested heavily including the No. 2 pick of the 2016 draft to make Wentz their franchise quarterback. After five seasons and a Super Bowl win with an injured Wentz on the sideline, the Eagles waved the white flag and traded him to the Colts.

It took the Colts all of one season to realize that Wentz was not the answer. Owner Jim Irsay publicly called the Wentz era "a mistake" when it was over. Only a sucker would bail them out of the remainder of his four-year, $128 million contract and give them draft capital in return. Enter the Commanders.

Washington traded for Wentz last offseason. The returns were as expected. He was benched multiple times before Washington released him in February. He remains a free agent, while the remaining Washington fans are rejoicing over the news of an ownership change.

well dean time to stir the pot as one of your other absolutes , wentz will get more money then falco has so far not come to pass. in fact wince's career could be over

 

[skinz2winz]

i don’t want him to get seriously hurt but he is right

If Tua contemplated retirement, then he likely should have.

 

[skinsdad62]

Toney

 

[skinsdad62]

 

[countryroads316]

Way too much he is washed up and could retire any moment

 

[skinsdad62]

 

[countryroads316]

Greenbay won the trade no way I would have given up that much for a headcase about to retire at anytime

 

[skinsdad62]

 

[gkekoa]

The Jets win this trade easily. They didn’t even give up a first rounder…for sure.

 

[deanpet21]

The Jets win this trade easily. They didn’t even give up a first rounder…for sure.

If Rodgers plays 65% of snaps in 2023 the Packers get the Jets first rounder in 2024. If not, it defaults to a 2nd rounder. Plus, the Packers move up 2 spots in round 1 and get a 2nd rounder this year. If the 2024 pick is a 1st rounder I think the Packers won this one for a QB who didn't want to stay in GB. This trade should put the Jets in the playoffs, but I think the Chiefs, Bills, and Bengals are better teams right now.

 

[skinsdad62]

So Aaron Rodgers retires from pro football to play with the jets ?

 

[deanpet21]

MSN

 

[chillerdab]

I happen to agree with RG3 on this one: teh Jets got fleeced.

They gave up a second and next years first for maybe two years of aaron rodgers, which would still make them the second best team in the division behind the Bills.

Bad trade for them, good trade for the Pack .