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NFL MVP...Gronk? Mike Freeman thinks so. Here's his top 10.

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There is a reason it's nearly always given to a QB, the QB by default is the MVP on any team typically.

This is simply a push to find someone, anyone, other than Brady to give the MVP to.
Well at least we know why you are fighting against Gurley now.
I think Tom is in the running for certain. But he is not head and shoulders above Gurley.
 

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Well at least we know why you are fighting against Gurley now.
I think Tom is in the running for certain. But he is not head and shoulders above Gurley.


I actually don't care if Tom gets it or not. The point is he is held to a different standard than other players. And he is head and shoulders more valuable than Gurley.
 

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There is a reason it's nearly always given to a QB, the QB by default is the MVP on any team typically.

This is simply a push to find someone, anyone, other than Brady to give the MVP to.


Or people that have paid attention to the last 5 games
 

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Carson Wentz IMO is still as worthy as anyone for the MVP

He is the biggest reason by far the Eagles have HF advantage
 

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Or people that have paid attention to the last 5 games


Coming from you that means absolutely nothing.

TB12 could have a 70 td season 1 pick, 6000 yards, and you would argue he isn't the MVP because he threw one pick.

You = 0.0 credibility
 

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Coming from you that means absolutely nothing.

TB12 could have a 70 td season 1 pick, 6000 yards, and you would argue he isn't the MVP because he threw one pick.

You = 0.0 credibility


Yeah, thats just the insecure fanboy in you

About 7 weeks ago, I had a thread saying Brady was the MVP as of than, so Im just a guy that calls it like it is

Youre a guy that just says "Brady is the MVP because he is my favorite football player"
 

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Or people that have paid attention to the last 5 games

Last 5 games, the Rams are 4-1 while playing three on the road and against 4 winning teams. Gurley has 514 rushing yards, 363 receiving yards for a total of 877 yards and 13 TDs.

While Brady has 5 game interception streak going.

The Rams are 9-0 when Gurley gets at least 20 touches in a game this year. That is an MVP stat.
 

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Yeah, thats just the insecure fanboy in you

About 7 weeks ago, I had a thread saying Brady was the MVP as of than, so Im just a guy that calls it like it is

Youre a guy that just says "Brady is the MVP because he is my favorite football player"


Incorrect, as always with you.

I'm the fan that points out there is a double standard when it comes to the MVP process. I ultimately don't care if he wins it, I'm more interested in him winning the SB and the SB MVP.

You're a guy that just hates everything Patriots related. See your idiotic Gronk comments as evidence of this.
 

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Last 5 games, the Rams are 4-1 while playing three on the road and against 4 winning teams. Gurley has 514 rushing yards, 363 receiving yards for a total of 877 yards and 13 TDs.

The Rams are 9-0 when Gurley gets at least 20 touches in a game this year. That is an MVP stat.


Oh I agree, the Rams without Gurley this season are not a playoff team

The Pats without Brady, and insert Jimmy G, and they still have HF advantage throughout
 

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Incorrect, as always with you.

I'm the fan that points out there is a double standard when it comes to the MVP process. I ultimately don't care if he wins it, I'm more interested in him winning the SB and the SB MVP.

You're a guy that just hates everything Patriots related. See your idiotic Gronk comments as evidence of this.


Yeah, and youre a guy that just loves the Pats and applies zero logic to anything you type and get defensive when people state the obvious

If people were here calling Aaron Rodgers the MVP of the league and he just put up the exact past 5 weeks that Brady had, youd be kicking your dog all over this sports forum in anger
 

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Last 5 games, the Rams are 4-1 while playing three on the road and against 4 winning teams. Gurley has 514 rushing yards, 363 receiving yards for a total of 877 yards and 13 TDs.

The Rams are 9-0 when Gurley gets at least 20 touches in a game this year. That is an MVP stat.


No it's a random stat that means absolutely nothing.

And they are 6-0, not 7-0,when getting 20 or more touches, 5-4 when getting less than 20. That is a difinitive not an MVP stat.
 

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Oh I agree, the Rams without Gurley this season are not a playoff team

The Pats without Brady, and insert Jimmy G, and they still have HF advantage throughout


Jimmy doesn't play for New England, further proving you talk out of your ass and don't actually follow the game.
 

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Jimmy doesn't play for New England, further proving you talk out of your ass and don't actually follow the game.


He would be if Brady went down at any point this season prior to his trade

Smart people know thats what I was obviously implying

Try to calm down, we know you want Tom Brady to impregnate you
 
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No it's a random stat that means absolutely nothing.

And they are 6-0, not 7-0,when getting 20 or more touches, 5-4 when getting less than 20. That is a difinitive not an MVP stat.

Touches not carries, obviously Gurley is arguably the best pass catching running back
 

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He would be if Brady went down at any point this season prior to his trade

Smart people know thats what I was obviously implying

Try to calm down, we know you want Tom Brady to impregnate you


No you were trying to be cute.
 

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Touches not carries, obviously Gurley is arguably the best pass catching running back


9-0 when he gets more than 20 touches (carries/rec), 2-4 when he has less than 20. His targets per game stay about the same game to game.

At least get the your own numbers right.
 

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9-0 when he gets more than 20 touches (carries/rec), 2-4 when he has less than 20. His targets per game stay about the same game to game.

At least get the your own numbers right.

How are my numbers not straight, I said the Rams are 9-0 when he gets at least 20 touches a game. Which is correct. Doesn't matter how many targets, targets can be broken up by bad passes, tipped passed, or a good defensive play.
 

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How are my numbers not straight, I said the Rams are 9-0 when he gets at least 20 touches a game. Which is correct. Doesn't matter how many targets, targets can be broken up by bad passes, tipped passed, or a good defensive play.


I saw 7-0. OK.

The targets just helps to point out that it doesn't change for him based on the game flow, ergo he isn't as much of importance as you implied.

Bell is a better overall choice at MVP than Gurley.
 
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