NFL Draft

[deep9er]

Do not lock onto one position
The obvious choice for the 49ers at No. 13 overall is a wide receiver. But the 49ers should not focus on just one position at any give draft slot.

It is always difficult when comparing players at different positions, but the 49ers have to determine which player is better. Which player fits the scheme -- offensive or defensive -- and can become more of an impact player over a long period of time and make players around him better.

So, yes, at No. 13, that player could be a wide receiver. But he could also be a cornerback, defensive lineman or offensive lineman.

It always is the best move to just take the best player. Team needs change from year to year. What you think might be a strength now could all of a sudden become a weakness with an injury or two. Best-player available -- at a premium position -- is always the best way to go.


I've always felt this way in every draft.

 

[Ricky Roma]

The 49ers with Lynch and Shanahan don't think that way....

 

[deep9er]

The 49ers with Lynch and Shanahan don't think that way....

Based on?

 

[Ricky Roma]

Based on?

The way they draft? I mean....they took a punter in the 4th round last year.

 

[deep9er]

The way they draft? I mean....they took a punter in the 4th round last year.

Ok, the Punter wasn't BPA in Round 4, that was a Need pick. But if you look at most of the past picks, it seems to follow BPA?

Although i'm for BPA, we wouldn't go BPA throughout the entire draft because you usually won't repeat a position. Going BPA doesn't mean pure, blind BPA either, a LITTLE Need is factored in. But in the big picture, i'd definitely go BPA thru Round 3 minimim, and if your team is bad all the way thru Round 6.

In this draft i'd still be thinking BPA at every pick, before Round 5. As it turns out, there will be talent matching up with our Needs.

 

[Groo]

Looking at Danial Jeremiahs lastest mock draft has the two guys I'm hoping to take if there's no trades down going the very next pick has the
Daniel Jeremiah 2020 NFL mock draft 3.0: Packers pick a QB
Thomas OT
Ruiz IOL
Late day 3 Micg OG draft Onwenu

 

[Ricky Roma]

Looking at Danial Jeremiahs lastest mock draft has the two guys I'm hoping to take if there's no trades down going the very next pick has the
Daniel Jeremiah 2020 NFL mock draft 3.0: Packers pick a QB
Thomas OT
Ruiz IOL
Late day 3 Micg OG draft Onwenu

I like both of those guys, but I wouldn't be mad at his actual picks in Ruggs/Blacklock. I'm a bit worried that SF put their eggs into Armstead's basket and let DeFo out with a trade.

 

[Groo]

If we go CB late in the 1st/early in 2nd, then J. Johnson Utah intrigues me the most there

 

[Ricky Roma]

Barring trades, realistically any one of Ruggs/Thomas/Kinlaw at 13. I'm good with that. 31 is obviously depending on what happened with the 13th pick, but I'd lean similar positions plus a DB.

Having said that.....it wouldn't surprise me that the pick could be one of those WTF deals....

 

[deep9er]

I like both of those guys, but I wouldn't be mad at his actual picks in Ruggs/Blacklock. I'm a bit worried that SF put their eggs into Armstead's basket and let DeFo out with a trade.

Letting Defo go was hard, real hard for me being he's from Hawaii. I'm sure they explored an extension but his agent was MUCH higher than we could fit. So looking at DeFo's contract plus all the free agents NEXT season, i'd have made the same decision. It wasn't a DeFo versus Armstead decision, it was a DeFo decision by itself.

I like Armstead because he sets the edge against the run, and can then pressure from inside. Finding linemen who can pressure from inside, isn't a given. Yes, he was helped by others next to him so not expecting 10 sacks a season, but he can apply pressure and get the QB uncomfortable.

 

[deep9er]

Barring trades, realistically any one of Ruggs/Thomas/Kinlaw at 13. I'm good with that. 31 is obviously depending on what happened with the 13th pick, but I'd lean similar positions plus a DB.

Having said that.....it wouldn't surprise me that the pick could be one of those WTF deals....

Not expecting a WTF deals, the BPA left on the board will very likely line up with one of our Needs. If we trade down from 13th, then of course this goes out the window.

If we do a small trade down from 13th because none of the 6 foundation players are left, then shouldn't we make another small trade down? This way we can keep the 31st pick. Earlier i did say lets not trade down more than once, but that was before i read about 6 foundation players.

 

[poewelch84]

Not expecting a WTF deals, the BPA left on the board will very likely line up with one of our Needs. If we trade down from 13th, then of course this goes out the window.

If we do a small trade down from 13th because none of the 6 foundation players are left, then shouldn't we make another small trade down? This way we can keep the 31st pick. Earlier i did say lets not trade down more than once, but that was before i read about 6 foundation players.

I agree if one of the 6 aren't available then they should do at least one maybe two small trade downs. Then keep the pick at 31 unless someone offers something to good to pass up.

 

[Ricky Roma]

Not expecting a WTF deals, the BPA left on the board will very likely line up with one of our Needs. If we trade down from 13th, then of course this goes out the window.

If we do a small trade down from 13th because none of the 6 foundation players are left, then shouldn't we make another small trade down? This way we can keep the 31st pick. Earlier i did say lets not trade down more than once, but that was before i read about 6 foundation players.

I'd have no problem if SF jettisoned their 13th, moved back a couple times till the only 1st rounder was their 31st.....and collect some extra picks. I'd rather they just grabbed one of the guys I listed if they are there. If there are guys they want at both 13 and 31....then they'll take them and we'll see them again Saturday.

Also sounds like they've given Goodwin permission to negotiate a deal with another team.

 

[deep9er]

I'd have no problem if SF jettisoned their 13th, moved back a couple times till the only 1st rounder was their 31st.....and collect some extra picks. I'd rather they just grabbed one of the guys I listed if they are there. If there are guys they want at both 13 and 31....then they'll take them and we'll see them again Saturday.

Also sounds like they've given Goodwin permission to negotiate a deal with another team.

No no, i was thinking if all 6 guys are gone by 13th, we'd trade down to say 16th, then again to 21st or something? So we'd still retain two 1st round picks albeit later.

BTW - Six "foundation" guys seems low cause in the past, i recall reading typically 15 or so 'foundation' picks?

 

[Ricky Roma]

Adam Schefter reporting that a lot of action happening to try and move up for SF's 13th pick.

 

[deep9er]

Adam Schefter reporting that a lot of action happening to try and move up for SF's 13th pick.

Ok good cause it means more options should we decide to trade.

It is picking the right players anyway, or looked another way, avoiding players who 'bust'. You can pick at 13th but choose a bust or you can pick at 21st and get value.

 

[Ricky Roma]

Ok good cause it means more options should we decide to trade.

It is picking the right players anyway, or looked another way, avoiding players who 'bust'. You can pick at 13th but choose a bust or you can pick at 21st and get value.

Well...it was always the plan - get your guys or get more picks - now I guess we probably need to see how the round unfolds before any deal is made unless is something insane.

 

[Montalban]

I hope the 49ers take a top receiver at #13 and I hope the guy they get is Lamb because of his ability to run after the catch.

 

[deep9er]

Well...it was always the plan - get your guys or get more picks - now I guess we probably need to see how the round unfolds before any deal is made unless is something insane.

For me it wasn't always the plan, i started out wanting only one trade down cause we need quality. This means "get your guys".

But now knowing there are only 6 foundation players, odds are low we get one sitting at 13th. So i changed my "plan" one step towards 'quantity', two small trade downs if available?

Anyway, just avoid the 'bust' players and we should be fine. The board lines up a little with our Needs, especially at WR.

 

[pitman]

Finally some kind of sports something to watch.