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At this point, I'd take any of the group ahead of Jackson. Throw in Holmgren.

I like Jackson ahead of guys like the Buffalo RB's coach, and Cleveland's OC, but if the 9ers had the pull they had in the 80's-90's, he wouldn't even make the list as a Rooney Rule.

My concern with Holmgren is his age and the amount of time he has been away from coaching. The concern with Holmgren is he no longer has the contacts to assemble a good staff.
 

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The usual. Paxson Lynch first after Goff, Cook second. These guys would be reaches in the 1st round, at least to me anyway.
Yeah, I think that's about the same for me. Talk about a stroke of bad luck. Get this:

1). Top pick in the draft, 2005. TOTALLY whif on Rodgers.
2). Completely screw up the development of the guy we picked over Rodgers with an endless sideshow of freaks who know jack squat about offense. Or quarterbacks. Or what to order at McDonalds.
3). Get a coach who takes us back to prominence.
4). Fire said coach because both the owner and GM are total idiots.
5). Sit through a Tomsula year to HOPEFULLY get a high enough pick to draft a franchise QB
5a). F#ck that up by winning meaningless games against Chicago and St. Louis.
5b). F#ck that up further by doing this bullsh!t in a year where there isn't an Andrew Luck.
6). Can't figure out who to hire as coach, because:
6a). There's coaching staffs that could fix us.
6b). Those guys won't come here because...See Point 4
6c). We get another bottom of the barrel candidate because...
6d). The owner is an idiot who didn't fire his GM last year, despite CLEARLY deserving it.
7). Guy we drafted first overall in 2005 gets traded to a competent coaching staff and has more than a puncher's chance of winning the SB on what could have been his home stadium in three weeks.

I hope 7 happens. And I hope either the Cardinals or Seahawks represent the NFC. Though I think both of these points will be ABSOLUTELY lost on our idiot owner, and his idiot GM. Hopefully some genius will fly a banner over the stadium during the SB that reads, "9ers ownership is an embarrassment to this city, state and region of the country. We hope he drives home drunk tonight, and falls off a cliff." That might be too much banner to pull. Maybe it should just read, "We hope Jed drives off a cliff."
 

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Sounds like from the most current reports and latest tweet from Mike Silver that Jackson is still very much in play. Jackson is far from the perfect candidate but unfortunately there just isn't a good HC pool this year to draw from. There is no one available like Harbaugh in 2011. Suppposedly the Giants is the premier job and look at the names being mentioned with that job. Hardly impressive

6w_9BjI1_bigger.jpgMichael Silver‏@MikeSilver 1h1 hour ago
  1. Michael Silver Retweeted HUE TO NYG

    They are not necessarily "as much in play"... but he is interested in any team that makes an offer.

 

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Yeah, I think that's about the same for me. Talk about a stroke of bad luck. Get this:

1). Top pick in the draft, 2005. TOTALLY whif on Rodgers.
2). Completely screw up the development of the guy we picked over Rodgers with an endless sideshow of freaks who know jack squat about offense. Or quarterbacks. Or what to order at McDonalds.
3). Get a coach who takes us back to prominence.
4). Fire said coach because both the owner and GM are total idiots.
5). Sit through a Tomsula year to HOPEFULLY get a high enough pick to draft a franchise QB
5a). F#ck that up by winning meaningless games against Chicago and St. Louis.
5b). F#ck that up further by doing this bullsh!t in a year where there isn't an Andrew Luck.
6). Can't figure out who to hire as coach, because:
6a). There's coaching staffs that could fix us.
6b). Those guys won't come here because...See Point 4
6c). We get another bottom of the barrel candidate because...
6d). The owner is an idiot who didn't fire his GM last year, despite CLEARLY deserving it.
7). Guy we drafted first overall in 2005 gets traded to a competent coaching staff and has more than a puncher's chance of winning the SB on what could have been his home stadium in three weeks.

I hope 7 happens. And I hope either the Cardinals or Seahawks represent the NFC. Though I think both of these points will be ABSOLUTELY lost on our idiot owner, and his idiot GM. Hopefully some genius will fly a banner over the stadium during the SB that reads, "9ers ownership is an embarrassment to this city, state and region of the country. We hope he drives home drunk tonight, and falls off a cliff." That might be too much banner to pull. Maybe it should just read, "We hope Jed drives off a cliff."

So true. I stated this in another post but will repeat it again. Even before cleaning house, the first thing this team needs to do is either fire or demote Al Guido, Team president. His only NFL experience is marketing tickets for the Cowboys. The 49ers desperately need a president with NFL experience that can analyze and build up the front office including selecting the right GM. If I became owner, that is the first thing I'd do.
 

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This team is a dumpster fire. It doesn't need to be built around anything specific, considering it needs to be built completely, at the moment.

I don't agree with your choice of coach, but I definitely don't want Jackson after that trainwreck last night. He could have called that last possession in a fashion that would have kept Burfict and Jones off the field in any meaningful capacity, but didn't.

I'd much rather go with Koetter, who presided over a much better offense with far fewer weapons and a first year quarterback. Jackson seems like Nolan to me, albeit on Offense. His offense this year was worse than Roman's in Buffalo. Again, with far more weapons. Considering our dearth of playmakers on offense, I don't see him succeeding here.


Hue Jackson is one of the last people I'd blame for that meltdown... I'd blame:

1) Burfict
2) Pacman Jones
3) Marvin Lewis
4) D co-ordinator

Marvin Lewis should have lost his job already IMHO.
How many times were they one and done in the playoffs?
Too many on-field and off-field problems.
 

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I would like the new coach next year to come in with a clean slate and make it an open competition between Kap and Gabbert.

Then I'd use the high draft pick plus all the other ones to stockpile everywhere possible on the roster (except QB). I'd be open to trading draft picks too (trade down the 7th, then later use the extra picks to trade back up in 2/3/4)

Keeping Kap around for a year will not hurt our cap space, which is huge right now.



The only guy I would cut to save cap space is Ahmad Brooks.

We also don't have a whole lot of big free agents to resign.

I expect us to be also active in free agency.
 

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Yup Jackson is out. I think Miami is about to land Gase thats why. Its between us and the Browns. No way he picks the Browns. That is the 1 franchise that is in a bigger mess then us. I think we land our guy.


True. Having played in that division, the last thing a new coach wants to see is the Steelers and Ravens 4 times a year.

On the other hand, NFC West is no cakewalk, but a better environment and established QB prospects.
Kaepernick was seriously mis-managed, IMO, and Hue Jackson, who is an above average OC can create a scheme for Kaep to be successful.
 

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Here is a pic of Tom Coughlin headed out to practice field. I hope this isn't a serious consideration.


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Here is a pic of Tom Coughlin headed out to practice field. I hope this isn't a serious consideration.
Coughlin or Holmgren would be great hires for the 49ers.
 

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Coughlin or Holmgren would be great hires for the 49ers.

Coughlin would be a lousy hire. Coming of three consecutive losing seasons and is 70 years old having coached 12 straight years. Clearly Coughlin is heading downward and burning out at this point. The NY Giants have an established QB and are farther along and it isn't working there and NY no longer wants him, so now at age 70 he is going to SF to oversee a longer term rebuild project with a new QB? No way.
 

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Coughlin would be a lousy hire. Coming of three consecutive losing seasons and is 70 years old having coached 12 straight years. Clearly Coughlin is heading downward and burning out at this point. The NY Giants have an established QB and are farther along and it isn't working there and NY no longer wants him, so now at age 70 he is going to SF to oversee a longer term rebuild project with a new QB? No way.
Holmgren is a native of San Francisco and has never coached a losing team. He may be the best hire.
 

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Don't worry. We have Tom Coughlin as a backup plan. :(

Why not interview Bud Grant while they are at it. He is only 88 years old and was at the Viking game last Sunday

LOL. I was thinking about that. He was wearing short sleeves in minus 1 degree weather. He is one tough guy. He could probably kick some of these younger players' butt.
 

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If we're passing on Hue I'd rather go with Chip over Coughlin.
 

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If we're passing on Hue I'd rather go with Chip over Coughlin.

I'd wouldn't touch CK. I'd go with Shanahan first then if that fails to work out, try an OC like Koetter or Shula. I would rather take a chance on a young OC than some over the hill burned out coach.
 
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