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Mike Giardi stated that the Ravens and Ronnie Stanley have agreed that Stanley will give them a chance to match the best offer he receives. The problem is that the Ravens have $10.5M in cap space. Then they would have to start cutting people Derrick Henry is at the bottom of the$10M+ group and next is S Marcus Williams at $8.5M. If the Patriots were able to step up and offer him $22M per for 5 years (will be a bargain by 2027) it's highly unlikely that the Ravens could or would match it.

Everything next week will be dependent on how far the Patriots are willing to go to get top of the rung players.
 

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Mike Giardi stated that the Ravens and Ronnie Stanley have agreed that Stanley will give them a chance to match the best offer he receives. The problem is that the Ravens have $10.5M in cap space. Then they would have to start cutting people Derrick Henry is at the bottom of the$10M+ group and next is S Marcus Williams at $8.5M. If the Patriots were able to step up and offer him $22M per for 5 years (will be a bargain by 2027) it's highly unlikely that the Ravens could or would match it.

Everything next week will be dependent on how far the Patriots are willing to go to get top of the rung players.
IMO he has to be the first player the Pats target. Put money on the table, set the tone, see how other teams respond, we can always make a larger offer if need be. the Pats have a chance to set his value and cut the cap of other teams if they really want him
 

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Mike Giardi stated that the Ravens and Ronnie Stanley have agreed that Stanley will give them a chance to match the best offer he receives. The problem is that the Ravens have $10.5M in cap space. Then they would have to start cutting people Derrick Henry is at the bottom of the$10M+ group and next is S Marcus Williams at $8.5M. If the Patriots were able to step up and offer him $22M per for 5 years (will be a bargain by 2027) it's highly unlikely that the Ravens could or would match it.

Everything next week will be dependent on how far the Patriots are willing to go to get top of the rung players.
9 year veteran with 8 years of averaging less than half of games. Had a good year last year in a contract year but closer to retiring than playing in a pro bowl.
5years???? Are you out of your mind?????
 

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5years???? Are you out of your mind?????
Nope. He's not going to sign for two or three unless he's going to really get paid bigtime. Your talking $25M per or more. He holds all of the cards.

Pivot........................Cam Robinson ............................5/$110M $65M guaranteed?? These guys are not coming to NE for peanuts or anywhere else desperate for OLinemen.
 

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Nope. He's not going to sign for two or three unless he's going to really get paid bigtime. Your talking $25M per or more. He holds all of the cards.
I'm not going to answer any of your posts unless you give me $25 million. I hold all the cards!
 

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Nope. He's not going to sign for two or three unless he's going to really get paid bigtime. Your talking $25M per or more. He holds all of the cards.
I'm not going to answer any of your posts unless you give me $25 million. I hold all the cards!
 

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Stanley and the Ravens agreed to a three-year extension for $60M with $44M guaranteed.

With that signing, Stanley just depressed the OL marketplace. He just turned away from a potential 4/$100M with $60M guaranteed at the very worst. It's pretty apparent that he's very comfortable with the Ravens. Quote one commentator this morning......"I'll wager that Stanley will be lucky to play twelve games this year. 2024 was an anomaly. It was the first time he's played the entire season in forever."

As I wrote the other day..............................PIVOT!!..................Cam Robinson or Mike Moore or both.

If the Patriots aren't willing to offer these guys near $20M a year, they will have the same the same OL as last year with one or two unknown caliber rookies trying to snatch a position. That includes Will Campbell.
 

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FYI:
Everyone cap-compliant?
I am once again asking for "Hard Knocks" to do a series on the Saints' accountants. They will be busy this weekend, as the team is $39.5 million in the red, per Over The Cap. An extra $17.4 million in dead money could be tacked on, too. To get compliant, they'll need to start by converting QB Derek Carr's $30 million salary into a roster bonus, with similar restructures for many others.


Yes, somebody is probably tampering

The NFL's first true free agency period began on March 1, 1993. It took all of one player to switch teams before Al Davis was accused of tampering.

That charge is usually difficult to prove, as it often happens over a lunch, a drink or the phone. It can be accidental or intentional, with agents meeting team execs at events like the scouting combine, where they discuss prospects or players currently under team control. Those conversations often turn to upcoming free agents. No one wears a wire.

Those discussions are against NFL rules, which prohibit teams from contacting agents about other teams' players until the legal tampering period begins. This year, that starts on Monday. Two days later, when the new league calendar begins, players themselves can speak with teams. Got all that?

(There are exceptions for players who were released prior to the deadline or given permission to speak with other teams, which is why Davante Adams and Aaron Rodgers can talk with the Giants, for example.)

Since 2008, the NFL's been assigning more tampering penalties. That year, the 49ers lost a fifth-round pick and third-round swap for contacting the agent of Bears linebacker Lance Briggs. Heck, that's probably worth it for Briggs, right?!

At that time, the NFL decided something needed to be done, and members of the competition committee recommended a moratorium on signings until a few days after free agency began.

But every year, deals get finalized suspiciously close to the opening of the window. "It's impossible to have [those contracts] in place so quickly," a team executive told FOX Sports. "You have teams trying to do the right thing and deals are being done in 20 minutes."

One agent told Sports Illustrated exactly how far back tampering might go. Discussions with a team representative had begun over lunch, eight months before free agency opened. "If you ain’t cheating, you ain’t trying," said the agent.

Last year, we saw significant examples. Remember, players cannot speak with teams until free agency officially begins, but these quotes suggested conversations prior to that:

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Penalties can involve fines and losses of draft picks. The Falcons forfeited their fifth-round pick in this year's draft and paid a $250,000 fine, plus GM Terry Fontenot paid a $50,000 fine for improper contact with Cousins and two other signings. The league found insufficient evidence to penalize the Eagles.

Other recent examples include the Cardinals losing draft positioning for tampering with now-HC Jonathan Gannon when he was an Eagles assistant, and the Dolphins losing first- and third-round picks after two executives violated rules (for years) with Tom Brady and the agent of Sean Payton.
 

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Everyone cap-compliant?
I am once again asking for "Hard Knocks" to do a series on the Saints' accountants. They will be busy this weekend, as the team is $39.5 million in the red, per Over The Cap. An extra $17.4 million in dead money could be tacked on, too. To get compliant, they'll need to start by converting QB Derek Carr's $30 million salary into a roster bonus, with similar restructures for many others.


Yes, somebody is probably tampering

The NFL's first true free agency period began on March 1, 1993. It took all of one player to switch teams before Al Davis was accused of tampering.

That charge is usually difficult to prove, as it often happens over a lunch, a drink or the phone. It can be accidental or intentional, with agents meeting team execs at events like the scouting combine, where they discuss prospects or players currently under team control. Those conversations often turn to upcoming free agents. No one wears a wire.

Those discussions are against NFL rules, which prohibit teams from contacting agents about other teams' players until the legal tampering period begins. This year, that starts on Monday. Two days later, when the new league calendar begins, players themselves can speak with teams. Got all that?

(There are exceptions for players who were released prior to the deadline or given permission to speak with other teams, which is why Davante Adams and Aaron Rodgers can talk with the Giants, for example.)

Since 2008, the NFL's been assigning more tampering penalties. That year, the 49ers lost a fifth-round pick and third-round swap for contacting the agent of Bears linebacker Lance Briggs. Heck, that's probably worth it for Briggs, right?!

At that time, the NFL decided something needed to be done, and members of the competition committee recommended a moratorium on signings until a few days after free agency began.

But every year, deals get finalized suspiciously close to the opening of the window. "It's impossible to have [those contracts] in place so quickly," a team executive told FOX Sports. "You have teams trying to do the right thing and deals are being done in 20 minutes."

One agent told Sports Illustrated exactly how far back tampering might go. Discussions with a team representative had begun over lunch, eight months before free agency opened. "If you ain’t cheating, you ain’t trying," said the agent.

Last year, we saw significant examples. Remember, players cannot speak with teams until free agency officially begins, but these quotes suggested conversations prior to that:

Screenshot%202025-03-07%20at%202.20.47%E2%80%AFAM.png


Penalties can involve fines and losses of draft picks. The Falcons forfeited their fifth-round pick in this year's draft and paid a $250,000 fine, plus GM Terry Fontenot paid a $50,000 fine for improper contact with Cousins and two other signings. The league found insufficient evidence to penalize the Eagles.

Other recent examples include the Cardinals losing draft positioning for tampering with now-HC Jonathan Gannon when he was an Eagles assistant, and the Dolphins losing first- and third-round picks after two executives violated rules (for years) with Tom Brady and the agent of Sean Payton.
Doesn't take much to tamper.
Takes A LOT to prove it.
A simple conversation with an agent of one of you own players.
We would like to sign player X to an extension but we need to save money because we know it will cost us $100mil/4 years with $66 mil guaranteed for an LT if we can find one in March, when you know that agent represents the LT you are targeting.

No names mentioned and the GM is trying to get a deal done to extend a LB that still has 2 years on his contract.
 
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