NBA OFF TOPIC THREAD

[thunderc]

Immaterial. Do these teams honor contracts? Nope. Guys regularly get cut when they have 2-3 years left on their deal.

And if the guy gets hurt he still gets the rest of that years salary plus all guaranteed money in the contract.

 

[fightinfunbags]

And if the guy gets hurt he still gets the rest of that years salary plus all guaranteed money in the contract.

And the organization gets much of that money back because they insure all of these big money contracts against injury. The game is rigged. The old “you signed a contract” bull shit is inapplicable in the NFL. In fact, it’s a farcical slap in the face knowing that every season each team will quit claim on anywhere from 10-15 contracts they were supposed to “honor”. There is no sports league in the world as one sided skewing to owners as the NFL is. Even hockey which generates about 1/3 of the revenue offers guaranteed contracts. This has gotten ridiculous.

 

[thunderc]

 

[fightinfunbags]

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Top 10 QB in the game and that’s coming from a guy who hates the Cowboys.

 

[thunderc]

Top 10 QB in the game and that’s coming from a guy who hates the Cowboys.

I actually like what he is about, just thought it was funny. I would not have him too 10 anymore though.

 

[fightinfunbags]

I actually like what he is about, just thought it was funny. I would not have him too 10 anymore though.

Where do you slot him?

 

[thunderc]

Where do you slot him?

At this point in his career I have to put him right in the middle.

 

[fightinfunbags]

At this point in his career I have to put him right in the middle.

So 15-16? I think you’re selling him short.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Dak isn't top 10....more like in the 13-14 range. He throws too many picks.

 

[thunderc]

So 15-16? I think you’re selling him short.

Like I said I’m a fan but he was less than stellar last season.

 

[shopson67]

Top 10 QB in the game and that’s coming from a guy who hates the Cowboys.

If he is, he's at the tail end of that and in danger of moving down with the rookies coming into the league this season. Not bad at all, just a number anyway.

 

[shopson67]

Dak isn't top 10....more like in the 13-14 range. He throws too many picks.

Didn't you hear? He's not going to do that this season.

 

[tlance]

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Harsh.

But I love it!

 

[thunderc]

Just happened to catch Cowberds take on this RB thing. I don’t care for him much but his take is interesting. He says about 8 years ago the QB position pivoted to where QBs are running more, thereby taking some of the RBs job. He said it’s simple supply and demand, the position is just not worth what it once was to the overall game so it was devalued appropriately.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Just happened to catch Cowberds take on this RB thing. I don’t care for him much but his take is interesting. He says about 8 years ago the QB position pivoted to where QBs are running more, thereby taking some of the RBs job. He said it’s simple supply and demand, the position is just not worth what it once was to the overall game so it was devalued appropriately.

I think it’s more about the replacement cost. Teams have found that they can survive with 80% production of what the elite expensive player can provide while allocating more money to positions where there is a big drop off in production from the elite to a replacement level, QB, DL, OL, CB. Some teams like the Eagles and the Cowboys invest in OL to such a degree that it has become a plug and play position. Because of the quality of the OL they can get 95% production of what the elite player can get.

 

[thunderc]

I think it’s more about the replacement cost. Teams have found that they can survive with 80% production of what the elite expensive player can provide while allocating more money to positions where there is a big drop off in production from the elite to a replacement level, QB, DL, OL, CB. Some teams like the Eagles and the Cowboys invest in OL to such a degree that it has become a plug and play position. Because of the quality of the OL they can get 95% production of what the elite player can get.

Probably some of both but the point Cowherd made is that people thinking the RBs are being wronged really can’t argue in terms of their value being decreased.

 

[Wamu]

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[trojanfan12]

Just happened to catch Cowberds take on this RB thing. I don’t care for him much but his take is interesting. He says about 8 years ago the QB position pivoted to where QBs are running more, thereby taking some of the RBs job. He said it’s simple supply and demand, the position is just not worth what it once was to the overall game so it was devalued appropriately.

That and there's a lot more "running back committee" these days. You don't really see a lot of 30 carry a game guys anymore which makes it almost a part time job.

If you're going to be running back these days, better to be a Christian McCaffrey type who can be used multiple ways, than a guy who's going to get handed the ball 30 times.

 

[shopson67]

Probably some of both but the point Cowherd made is that people thinking the RBs are being wronged really can’t argue in terms of their value being decreased.

The players being tagged aren't being wronged though. That tag salary is a decent bump for Barkley and Jacobs (and a huge one for Pollard). Henry played a season on the tag, then got 4/50M (25M guaranteed) the following year.

Unless you're an advocate for dumping the tags (which I would fine with), this seems adequate.

 

[DJ Fieri]

You know who is still available that the Raiders could use?

CB Marcus Peters.

"Peters only snatched one interception last season in 13 starts. But coverage-wise, he surrendered a completion percentage of just 64.3 and, in 11 of those starts, only allowed five catches or less on his side, including eight games of surrendering below 60 yards, according to Pro Football Reference."