NBA OFF TOPIC THREAD

[tlance]

Weren't the alleged killers adults?

At least one was.

I think all 3 were 19 or older

 

[bksballer89]

Weren't the alleged killers adults?

At least one was.

What exactly should lebron have done just as @tlance said? Im confused

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Yeah, this is misguided.

He tweeted thoughts and prayers to the family and another tweet to reassure stakeholders that the school is safe and secure. He probably contacted the family directly too.

What exactly do you want him to do beyond that?

Okay....

I think I'm done with this thread for the foreseeable future.

I'm not up on facts of this case.

So, I googled Lebron's statement on Ethan Liming murder and......

His statement didn't come up.

But, page after page of Wiggy's statement that LeBron ghosted because the kid is white came up in a huge wave.

I'm not doing this...lol

See y'all in the basketball thread.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

What exactly should lebron have done just as @tlance said? Im confused

How the fuck should I know?

I don't know anything about the case outside a kid got killed for shooting dudes with a water gun.

That's Wiggys hill to die on.

I don't know what LeBron did, or did not say, which is why I asked the question.

 

[bksballer89]

How the fuck should I know?

I don't know anything about the case outside a kid got killed for shooting dudes with a water gun.

My question was more directed at wiggy because he is on his i hate lebron train. Lebron goes to Cleveland next summer and back to being the greatest thing ever who can do no wrong

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

My question was more directed at wiggy because he is on his i hate lebron train. Lebron goes to Cleveland next summer and back to being the greatest thing ever who can do no wrong

My bad.

Yeah, I'm out this thread... Lol

 

[Stakesarehigh]

LeBron asks his 51 million Twitter followers to "pray for our community" after teen's death

Akron teen is killed in fight outside of I Promise School.

www.beaconjournal.com

Lebron did say something

 

[bksballer89]

My bad.

Yeah, I'm out this thread... Lol

Come back

 

[bksballer89]

LeBron asks his 51 million Twitter followers to "pray for our community" after teen's death

Akron teen is killed in fight outside of I Promise School.

www.beaconjournal.com

Lebron did say something

So wiggy lied? I am completely stunned

 

[tlance]

How the fuck should I know?

I don't know anything about the case outside a kid got killed for shooting dudes with a water gun.

That's Wiggys hill to die on.

I don't know what LeBron did, or did not say, which is why I asked the question.

I don’t know why media would say he ghosted.

He made a public acknowledgement to the family that is right there in his twitter feed.

My guess?

Certain 1 sided media outlets want to paint the picture that LeBron isn’t talking about this case to make it racial.

But really, what is there to say?

Pretty sure everyone agrees this was messed up. Not exactly controversial. LeBron gets too involved and the same outlets would criticize him for using the situation for his own personal publicity.

Can’t win no matter what he does.

 

[bksballer89]

Wiggy must have wanted to turn into a detective or something. So ridiculous

 

[trojanfan12]

That is BS.

I said his point of view was warped.

That is not taking his side or sticking up for him.

Yet, you only chose to address the former cop.

 

[trojanfan12]

What exactly should lebron have done just as @tlance said? Im confused

Clearly, Lebron should have flown to Akron, captured the killers and seen to it that justice was served. Thought he was all about giving back en sech.

 

[tlance]

Yet, you only chose to address the former cop.

Nope.

Saying his point of view is warped is addressing it.

Try again.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Haven’t read everything yet. This is going to be my last post on this.

1. And most importantly, I’m very sorry that I essentially turned this thread into the Politics Forum. That’s bad form on my part. This board is set up to clearly delineate where to talk about what so I apologize to everybody for bringing this here and then just going off in post after post.
2. I apologize to the people that I have offended. I know better. Looking back, I did a horrible job expressing myself. It really does read as if I’m coming at PEOPLE and individuals. That’s not the intent of my comments to come at individuals, who they are, what they do and the life choices they’ve made.
3. What my intent was (and I shit the bed on this) was to criticize things on a macro level. I was calling out a culture that I refer to as a mythology. Right or wrong, I am critical of certain aspects of our culture that give deference just because something comes from law enforcement. Back in the day the assumption was if it’s from a cop it’s gold and it’s pure. Society is changing and starting to realize that’s flawed. I’m on the side that calls that stuff out. On the military, I believe that throughout human history here’s what happens with war. The 1% engage in conflict to gain power and riches. Instead of them physically getting on the battlefield and doing their own dirty work, for thousands of years, they’ve sent the poor to their bidding under the umbrella of things like nationalism and religion to convince the poor to go kill and potentially die for their economic gain they have no intention of actually sharing with the grunts they go and send to their bidding. I think our culture fuels this situation with rah rah mythology that allows this mind fuck to continue.
4. My thoughts on both of these things were developed fully through my experience teaching in inner city Philadelphia for 11 of my 23 years in teaching. I came to understand why kids didn’t have the same deference for law enforcement that I did. I heard about their life experiences and the way they and their families were treated and it opened my eyes. In teaching, you encounter kids who make an impact on YOU and who you are. One such student of mine was John Kihm. John was an awesome kid with such energy and promise. He would often write of his desires to be a solider and to serve his country. He was fueled by what I now call this soldier mythology we have created in our country. John was in country in Afghanistan for just a sure time before he was KIA. He left behind many that loved him. And I ask for what? The Taliban today is in power despite us spending 20 years worth of financial and human treasure there. I’m sorry but that bothers me. Here’s a little bit about John

One year later, military family still mourns fallen son - Pavement Pieces

A year after Johnny Kihm died in Afghanistan, his family is still coming to terms with his passing.

pavementpieces.com

My teaching experience has given me context because I’ve taught in the inner city and I’ve taught on the Main Line (affluent Philadelphia suburb) and I’ve seen two different approaches to recruiting my kids from the military. At the inner city school, I would see recruiters once a week. They were there so often that I knew them like I knew my colleagues. I knew their wives names. I knew what grades their kids were in. They were a staple in our school full of low income families. This was the pathway to college for many of them. Fast forward to my experience in the affluent school. I have yet to see a military recruiter for enlistment at our lunch periods in my 12 years there. Not a single one. Once a year however we are visited by a representative from the Academies to present about going to West Point or Annapolis or Colorado Springs. You may draw another conclusion but for me this is evidence that has me conclude that they prey upon the poor for the meat grinder. This is why I’m critical of this culture that we cultivate. We tend to romanticize these two experiences I’m calling out and we don’t advertise the “real”. I think people can easily be manipulated and that’s why I don’t like them.

Before anybody goes there…my thoughts are for here, message boards like this one. It would be immoral and an abuse of my position as teacher for me to bring these attitudes with me to the classroom. I let my kids discuss these topics. I don’t share my opinions. In my eyes, that’s blatant malpractice. My job isn’t to tell kids what to think. My job is to get them to think critically.

Again, I’m very sorry that I have offended or even just may have offended the people who post here. I know better and this should have been left for the politics forum. You guys can have the last word (as much as it pains me to give anyone the last word). I have done too much already to muck up this thread.

 

[trojanfan12]

Nope.

Saying his point of view is warped is addressing it.

Try again.

Yeah, because you tagged him in your response, right?

 

[tlance]

Yeah, because you tagged him in your response, right?

LOL.

Tagging is a pain in the ass on the old IPhone I post from. Names don’t automatically come up, so I have type the entire name exactly for it to come up

Which is why I only make the effort to tag occasionally. And even then, usually with the short names like

@DJ
Or @Mecca

So try again again.

 

[Heatles84]

The outraged parents are grossly misinformed the vast majority of the time and don’t even understand what they think they are mad about.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Haven’t read everything yet. This is going to be my last post on this.

1. And most importantly, I’m very sorry that I essentially turned this thread into the Politics Forum. That’s bad form on my part. This board is set up to clearly delineate where to talk about what so I apologize to everybody for bringing this here and then just going off in post after post.
2. I apologize to the people that I have offended. I know better. Looking back, I did a horrible job expressing myself. It really does read as if I’m coming at PEOPLE and individuals. That’s not the intent of my comments to come at individuals, who they are, what they do and the life choices they’ve made.
3. What my intent was (and I shit the bed on this) was to criticize things on a macro level. I was calling out a culture that I refer to as a mythology. Right or wrong, I am critical of certain aspects of our culture that give deference just because something comes from law enforcement. Back in the day the assumption was if it’s from a cop it’s gold and it’s pure. Society is changing and starting to realize that’s flawed. I’m on the side that calls that stuff out. On the military, I believe that throughout human history here’s what happens with war. The 1% engage in conflict to gain power and riches. Instead of them physically getting on the battlefield and doing their own dirty work, for thousands of years, they’ve sent the poor to their bidding under the umbrella of things like nationalism and religion to convince the poor to go kill and potentially die for their economic gain they have no intention of actually sharing with the grunts they go and send to their bidding. I think our culture fuels this situation with rah rah mythology that allows this mind fuck to continue.
4. My thoughts on both of these things were developed fully through my experience teaching in inner city Philadelphia for 11 of my 23 years in teaching. I came to understand why kids didn’t have the same deference for law enforcement that I did. I heard about their life experiences and the way they and their families were treated and it opened my eyes. In teaching, you encounter kids who make an impact on YOU and who you are. One such student of mine was John Kihm. John was an awesome kid with such energy and promise. He would often write of his desires to be a solider and to serve his country. He was fueled by what I now call this soldier mythology we have created in our country. John was in country in Afghanistan for just a sure time before he was KIA. He left behind many that loved him. And I ask for what? The Taliban today is in power despite us spending 20 years worth of financial and human treasure there. I’m sorry but that bothers me. Here’s a little bit about John

One year later, military family still mourns fallen son - Pavement Pieces

A year after Johnny Kihm died in Afghanistan, his family is still coming to terms with his passing.

pavementpieces.com

My teaching experience has given me context because I’ve taught in the inner city and I’ve taught on the Main Line (affluent Philadelphia suburb) and I’ve seen two different approaches to recruiting my kids from the military. At the inner city school, I would see recruiters once a week. They were there so often that I knew them like I knew my colleagues. I knew their wives names. I knew what grades their kids were in. They were a staple in our school full of low income families. This was the pathway to college for many of them. Fast forward to my experience in the affluent school. I have yet to see a military recruiter for enlistment at our lunch periods in my 12 years there. Not a single one. Once a year however we are visited by a representative from the Academies to present about going to West Point or Annapolis or Colorado Springs. You may draw another conclusion but for me this is evidence that has me conclude that they prey upon the poor for the meat grinder. This is why I’m critical of this culture that we cultivate. We tend to romanticize these two experiences I’m calling out and we don’t advertise the “real”. I think people can easily be manipulated and that’s why I don’t like them.

Before anybody goes there…my thoughts are for here, message boards like this one. It would be immoral and an abuse of my position as teacher for me to bring these attitudes with me to the classroom. I let my kids discuss these topics. I don’t share my opinions. In my eyes, that’s blatant malpractice. My job isn’t to tell kids what to think. My job is to get them to think critically.

Again, I’m very sorry that I have offended or even just may have offended the people who post here. I know better and this should have been left for the politics forum. You guys can have the last word (as much as it pains me to give anyone the last word). I have done too much already to muck up this thread.

We are good, My Guy.

I apologize too.

There are always strong emotions when innocent children are involved.

We both got caught up.

 

[bksballer89]

I clearly missed a lot