NBA OFF TOPIC THREAD

[bksballer89]

Oh y'all fighting fighting

 

[fightinfunbags]

yes. 15 homers, 30 steals, gold glove defense is overating.

what you fail to realize is that for a guy like Bohm- counting stats really dont mean shit when you have a ton of at bats and dont do anyhting well

what does Bohm do better than the average guy? The answer is nothing. He doesnt have even average power at his position. He doesnt get on base even average at his position. He doest defend even average at his position.

if he didnt have the 3rd overall pick pedigree and show potential in his rookie season he would likely have been replaced or be on the chopping block to be replaced.

A guy like Jake Burger who at least hits for power does SOMETHING well. A guy like Kebryan Hayes at least has one of the best gloves at his position. Bohm does nothing well.

He’d just be the 2nd best power hitter in your shitty lineup.

 

[Wamu]

Fuck your metrics dork. Billy Beane never won a playoff series. Bohm made huge strides this year in the field and on the plate. You don’t watch baseball. You watch spread sheets. Good luck to the Guardians this week

"fuck your metrics dork"

 

[dtgold88]

I've always found the ranked opponent thing to be a bit misleading. If a team is ranked because they started out beating a few bad teams and end up unranked...doesn't seem like it should count.

If we are talking about ranking at time of game I agree (but discussing it well after the game). all that should matter is where they are when one is talking about it IMO. If that makes sense.

 

[dtgold88]

I agree with that. Or if a ranked team is badly over ranked to start and has a disappointing season.

so TAM pretty much every season?

 

[Wamu]

so TAM pretty much every season?

Not sure what TAM is.

 

[dtgold88]

Fuck your metrics dork. Billy Beane never won a playoff series. Bohm made huge strides this year in the field and on the plate. You don’t watch baseball. You watch spread sheets. Good luck to the Guardians this week

Billy Beane did not win a playoff series because his owner wouldn't spend...not because he tried to find ways to keep up with teams that will spend.

advanced metrics are not end all be all but not sure they should be dismissed as they are often computed by someone who watches the player on every single play he makes (or doesn't make).

None of this to say he's right or you are wrong about Bohm as I cannot say I can recall him needing to make a single play in the field ever...and I didn't look up his metrics.

 

[dtgold88]

Not sure what TAM is.

my bad.....Texas A&M.

 

[shopson67]

I don't know, watching in back-to-back plays seeing Notre Dame only play 10 players on defense points towards the coordinator being the issue. But yes, maybe Golden PTSD....maybe.

Who was it that had 13 on the field and still gave up the goal line TD this weekend? Was it Florida?

 

[Wamu]

my bad.....Texas A&M.

Yep.

 

[Wamu]

Who was it that had 13 on the field and still gave up the goal line TD this weekend? Was it Florida?

True story.

Only good things to come outta Florida are Tom Petty & Gatorade.

 

[shopson67]

my bad.....Texas A&M.

My mind went to TAMpa, Jeffrey TAMbor...would've taken a while to get to A&M lol.

 

[dtgold88]

He's still a D but seems like maybe he got the shaft by MLB?.....

 

[dtgold88]

My mind went to TAMpa, Jeffrey TAMbor...would've taken a while to get to A&M lol.

Yeah....while we talk CFB here, abbreviations like that not always so well known. Know what this one is......USCe?

 

[Wamu]

Yeah....while we talk CFB here, abbreviations like that not always so well known. Know what this one is......USCe?

S. Carolina?

 

[trojanfan12]

Billy Beane did not win a playoff series because his owner wouldn't spend...not because he tried to find ways to keep up with teams that will spend.

Yeah, as I recall, it was his way of competing with teams that will spend despite having an owner who wouldn't.

Those teams potential was more than maxed out just getting to the playoffs.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Yeah, as I recall, it was his way of competing with teams that will spend despite having an owner who wouldn't.

Those teams potential was more than maxed out just getting to the playoffs.

He’s the hero of franchises that will never win anything. AKA the Guardians

 

[Stakesarehigh]

I mean - this is not even a close comparison. No one that follows baseball and knows anything about the game could possibly make the argument that Bohm had close to the season Naylor had- let alone better.

It is not even a close argument. I certainly dont think WAR and OPS etc. are the end-all be all- but when every single possible advanced statistic for multiple different services says Naylor has been WAY better- and OPS backs it up- you are just making an argument out of thin air to say otherwise.

what really does it matter

as he pointed out Naylor is at worst your 3rd best player and Bohm is Phillys 7th

 

[trojanfan12]

He's still a D but seems like maybe he got the shaft by MLB?.....

This kind of thing is why I am against punishing players before we have all of the facts and/or the legal process has played out.

This guy committed no crime and may be a victim of an attempted scam...but may lose his career because he's into weird (but not illegal) sex.

 

[thunderc]

Just saw a crazy Pat Mahomes stat. Last night was the first time in his high school, college and pro career that the opposing qb had more completions, yards and tds as well as less interceptions. Guess he is done, it’s over.