NBA OFF TOPIC THREAD

[dtgold88]

And the fans

as was mentioned, I believe, the Tribe-Cubs series was highest ratings in last 15 seasons.

 

[Heatles84]

This might be the worst example of complete over the top homerism ever on this site.

thread- minnesota rules the world of football

comment # 268

"And Football wouldn't but what it is if not for Minnesota"

fredsdeadfriend said that.



@dtgold88

Minnesota football >>>> Ohio State


@trojanfan12

Minnesota >>>> USC

@Heatles84

Minnesota >>>> The U

@fightinfunbags

Minnesota >>> > N.D.

Man.......I'm a big Miami fan, and outside of 2017, we've been trash for the better part of 15+ years. Having said that, Minny will be in no way has been better than Miami.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Not going back to see if even true but if it is for some reason you didn't mind talking about the Nats and Marlins.

so to be clear, the only team you think we should avoid in this baseball discussion is the Phillies?

No. To be clear you’re the mongoloid Perry Mason from Cleveland

 

[fightinfunbags]

You want to do all you can not to just say based on your own "rule" the NL Central is not as good as the AL Central. You'd prefer to be factually incorrect.

It's Ok.....you can say it. It wont hurt.

No these are not my rules. They are your rules. You wanted to lump one big winning percentage together. I provided the winning percentage for each team. The NL Central will have one less bad team than the AL Central. It’s so fucking adorable what you’ve been reduced to. You’ve spent multiple posts over weeks trying to prove that there is some division out there worse than the AL Central.

 

[Wamu]

Man.......I'm a big Miami fan, and outside of 2017, we've been trash for the better part of 15+ years. Having said that, Minny will be in no way has been better than Miami.

I'm fucking with him again right now. He's crazy. And his excuses why Minnesota football is great are always funny entertainment to me.

I call him the worst homer on this site. I remind him all the time nobody homers like him.

He's like that damn Energizer bunny. He just keeps going and going and going with his special brand of Gophers homerism.

 

[dtgold88]

No these are not my rules. They are your rules. You wanted to lump one big winning percentage together. I provided the winning percentage for each team. The NL Central will have one less bad team than the AL Central. It’s so fucking adorable what you’ve been reduced to. You’ve spent multiple posts over weeks trying to prove that there is some division out there worse than the AL Central.

I mean, it's looking at the standings and simple math that shows us the AL Central is better than the NL Central. Yes, I saw you attempted to argue with yourself and ignore what is painfully obvious to understand.

Really, though? amount of bad teams are how we judge this now? Hell, the WSox and Twins would have been viewed as mediocre until they each faced the Tribe who stomped them and made them quit. Been a long time since anyone thought the Cubs, Pirates or Reds were mediocre.

I know I ask this a lot and as is often the case you are scared to answer but what is the punishment you'd receive to simply say you were wrong? Lengths you go not to I cannot imagine what it could be. Alone time with Buckalis for a week after a Buck title?

 

[Shanemansj13]

Can’t disagree. But that being said, when thinking about the economics of TV sports, maybe more so than usual in sports, networks are really rooting hard for certain teams to go deep for the state of the bottom line.

That's in any sport though and that's how it has always been. The Yankees, Red Sox and Dodgers will ALWAYS get coverage over anyone even if they are in turmoil. Just like the Lakers and Celtics will get coverage over even average market teams. I guess the NBA is a bit different bc of the star factor but overall it's the same. NFL is the same except they follow the star QB's. I mean even the Giants have sucked for awhile and they get a ton of coverage. I will blame it mostly on ESPN, they have their agendas.

 

[fightinfunbags]

I mean, it's looking at the standings and simple math that shows us the AL Central is better than the NL Central. Yes, I saw you attempted to argue with yourself and ignore what is painfully obvious to understand.

Really, though? amount of bad teams are how we judge this now? Hell, the WSox and Twins would have been viewed as mediocre until they each faced the Tribe who stomped them and made them quit. Been a long time since anyone thought the Cubs, Pirates or Reds were mediocre.

I know I ask this a lot and as is often the case you are scared to answer but what is the punishment you'd receive to simply say you were wrong? Lengths you go not to I cannot imagine what it could be. Alone time with Buckalis for a week after a Buck title?

I have no problem admitting that I’m wrong. Let’s be honest, if I were wrong what would be the big deal? The circumstance doesn’t change much at all if the AL Central is the 2nd worst division (it’s not; it’s the worst). The Indians would still be a paper champion propped up by a trash division.

 

[fightinfunbags]

That's in any sport though and that's how it has always been. The Yankees, Red Sox and Dodgers will ALWAYS get coverage over anyone even if they are in turmoil. Just like the Lakers and Celtics will get coverage over even average market teams. I guess the NBA is a bit different bc of the star factor but overall it's the same. NFL is the same except they follow the star QB's. I mean even the Giants have sucked for awhile and they get a ton of coverage. I will blame it mostly on ESPN, they have their agendas.

What I’m saying is that because of the overall dip in viewership of baseball over the last 2-3 decades they’re even more invested in those big name teams moving on. The Super Bowl for instance is still going to be the most watched sporting event every year regardless of who plays.

 

[fightinfunbags]

I mean, it's looking at the standings and simple math that shows us the AL Central is better than the NL Central. Yes, I saw you attempted to argue with yourself and ignore what is painfully obvious to understand.

Really, though? amount of bad teams are how we judge this now? Hell, the WSox and Twins would have been viewed as mediocre until they each faced the Tribe who stomped them and made them quit. Been a long time since anyone thought the Cubs, Pirates or Reds were mediocre.

I know I ask this a lot and as is often the case you are scared to answer but what is the punishment you'd receive to simply say you were wrong? Lengths you go not to I cannot imagine what it could be. Alone time with Buckalis for a week after a Buck title?

What is Buckalis? Is it some gay Midwest right of passage? This is puzzling. Usually the Midwest is a few months behind the arrival of popular culture so I’m shocked this thing wasn’t a thing before.

 

[bksballer89]

 

[fightinfunbags]

It’s early but I’ll own it. I called out this contract as being a horrible overpay. He is proving me wrong. One thing I think that I should have considered is that Jacksonville is NFL hell and in order to get the FA that Lawrence needs to improve and evolve they have to overpay to get a player to signup for that.

 

[dtgold88]

I have no problem admitting that I’m wrong. Let’s be honest, if I were wrong what would be the big deal? The circumstance doesn’t change much at all if the AL Central is the 2nd worst division (it’s not; it’s the worst). The Indians would still be a paper champion propped up by a trash division.

It's not really IF you are wrong. You are wrong. Only you can answer what has been the big deal for you to say you are wrong even when it's proven you are factually incorrect as you are here.

 

[fightinfunbags]

It's not really IF you are wrong. You are wrong. Only you can answer what has been the big deal for you to say you are wrong even when it's proven you are factually incorrect as you are here.

1. You’ve done no such thing.
2. What’s the difference between being the paper champion from the worst division or the 2nd worst division in the end really? We all know that the Indians are the tallest midget and that’s why they’re in the playoffs.

 

[WiggyRuss]

I mean, it's looking at the standings and simple math that shows us the AL Central is better than the NL Central. Yes, I saw you attempted to argue with yourself and ignore what is painfully obvious to understand.

Really, though? amount of bad teams are how we judge this now? Hell, the WSox and Twins would have been viewed as mediocre until they each faced the Tribe who stomped them and made them quit. Been a long time since anyone thought the Cubs, Pirates or Reds were mediocre.

I know I ask this a lot and as is often the case you are scared to answer but what is the punishment you'd receive to simply say you were wrong? Lengths you go not to I cannot imagine what it could be. Alone time with Buckalis for a week after a Buck title?

The Sox def. underperformed- but talent wise- if we are lumping the AL and NL Central together- I think the Sox are the most talented team- its why they won mid ninety games this year and were the unquestioned favorite to win the division this year.

the Twins are pretty good too- Correa, Buxton, Gray, Arraez, Polanco- they just had a ton of injuries.

Guardians did their thing.

Id take the talent in the Al Central over the Nl Central without a doubt.

I absolutely would take the Tigers and Royals over the Reds and Pirates too---- though the Pirates do have a lot of talent in the minors---- but so do the Royals and Tigers.

Both the Tigers and Royals should be on the up and up to respectability sooner than later. Royals have a little more depth- Tigers have a ton of very highly rated guys that just need to be healthy and get experience.

Mize, Manning, Skubal, Greene, Torkelson is as talented a young 5 as you will find in the majors from a potential stand point- now- potential obviously needs to work out- but I am just saying the Tigers have a path if they got a decent GM to put things together.

Royals do too- Witt is going to be a multi time all star some day soon. Mendez is a legit player. Pasquitino is legit...there pitching prospects really havent worked out how they would like- though Singer would def. be the best starter on the Reds or Pirates.

 

[WiggyRuss]

White Sox hired a bad manager and had a ton of injuries. They are a lot better than they performed this year.

Next year I would absolutely 100% say the Al Central is better than the Nl Central.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Cubs def. have a path to improving becauses of their money--- but their current talent level is probably the worst among themselves, Reds, Pirates, Tigers and Royals.

If I could pick a team to build from and money was all equal I would rank them like this:

1. Detroit
2. KC
3. Pitt
4. Reds
5. Cubs

Cubs are just so talentless its really ridiculous- it should not be able to happen with so much money at their disposal.

 

[WiggyRuss]

@fightinfunbags @dtgold88

imagine if the Guardians would have given Castellanos a similar deal to the Phils and he signed in Cleveland--- and totally blocked Kwan or Gonzalez--- what a disaster.

Phillies are probably- if they hang on- going to make their first playoff series in a decade- but they have some serious issues on their horizon payroll wise and a pretty weak farm system outside of a couple pretty good pitching prospects.

their catcher having a bounce back year has helped them a lot.....Nola and Wheeler are good starters, but teams that play bad D and have bad bullpens usually dont go far in the playoffs. Nola and Wheeler --- if Harper can get his head out of his ass- give them a shot though.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Guardians 4-5 best prospects are still in the minors if you ask me- Rocchio, Valera, Espino, Williams, Naylor.....

If the White Sox get healthy, get a new manager and play with some heart they can win the division next year without a doubt---

Guardians still need to solidfy some stuff---- but it makes me feel good about their future that they are having success with their rebuild without having their highest ceiling guys up yet.

 

[fightinfunbags]

@fightinfunbags @dtgold88

imagine if the Guardians would have given Castellanos a similar deal to the Phils and he signed in Cleveland--- and totally blocked Kwan or Gonzalez--- what a disaster.

Phillies are probably- if they hang on- going to make their first playoff series in a decade- but they have some serious issues on their horizon payroll wise and a pretty weak farm system outside of a couple pretty good pitching prospects.

their catcher having a bounce back year has helped them a lot.....Nola and Wheeler are good starters, but teams that play bad D and have bad bullpens usually dont go far in the playoffs. Nola and Wheeler --- if Harper can get his head out of his ass- give them a shot though.

Phil’s aren’t a legit contender yet. They have dominated the bad teams on their schedule to the tune of like .700 baseball against the bottom and like .450-.460 baseball against the top teams in the league. Phil’s are fine payroll wise. I would like to see them trade Hoskins and Nola for some prospects. People bag on their farm because they think reading baseball magazines and websites replace the experience of actually scouting players. The Phillies horrible farm brought a ton of guys up this year because of injury and many of those guys have contributed. This off season the Phil’s are likely to make a run at Trae Turner and if they fall short, they’re likely to have Dansby Swanson as a consolation prize. Castellanos had a bad year. It happens. He will likely bounce back next year. The baseball card doesn’t lie. I would also like to see them spend money on a number 2 starter when they ship out Nola (they won’t; but I would do that).