NBA OFF TOPIC THREAD

[fightinfunbags]

lightning in a bottle? Thats what happens when you barely ever make the playoffs like the Phillies.

The Guardians actually pretty consistently make the playoffs.

Then why haven’t they won anything since 1948?

 

[dtgold88]

The Marlins have won multiple World Series since Cleveland last won. The Washington Expos have actually closed the deal more recently than the Indians as well. This is exactly what I’m talking about. When there are no results to point to you become innately focused on over playing small process victories that have led nowhere and will continue to lead nowhere.

To be clear, we are allowed to mention other teams in this discussion? You can make all the rules here if you'd like, but can you make them and follow them please?

 

[dtgold88]

Then why haven’t they won anything since 1948?

since 1948? Much of that time is bad ownership combined with bad FO. Now it's mostly an ownership group not willing to spend whatever it takes as some teams will when they have a window.

 

[fightinfunbags]

To be clear, we are allowed to mention other teams in this discussion? You can make all the rules here if you'd like, but can you make them and follow them please?

You replied to one of my replies to Wiggy. In that post he mentioned the Marlins and the Nats. That’s why I responded the way I did. Back to the drawing board Perry Mason.

 

[Shanemansj13]

How did the Rays do in the eyes of the networks when they’ve made their runs? The Royals? You’re talking some of the lowest metrics MLB ratings have seen.

WS views have been down as a whole for awhile now since the 90's. Most viewed WS in the last 15 years is the Indians-Cubs.

Royals and Rays are bottom of the barrel. The Rays barely have any fans. The Royals was about average for the last 15 years. With so many other events people just don't tune into baseball anymore.

 

[fightinfunbags]

WS views have been down as a whole for awhile now since the 90's. Most viewed WS in the last 15 years is the Indians-Cubs.

Royals and Rays are bottom of the barrel. The Rays barely have any fans. The Royals was about average for the last 15 years. With so many other events people just don't tune into baseball anymore.

Can’t disagree. But that being said, when thinking about the economics of TV sports, maybe more so than usual in sports, networks are really rooting hard for certain teams to go deep for the state of the bottom line.

 

[shopson67]

And obtw, they got by the Steelers, who are HARDLY world beaters. Now if they beat someone like the Chargers or the Bills then I'd say that would earn you some respect points...

Chargers not exactly looking like world beaters, getting plastered by the mighty Jags lol.

 

[dtgold88]

Where in my post did I say that you should do analysis by breaking the data up into subsets?

I asked what's the best way to compare divisions, you said winning % of teams/participants. I gave you the records of the participants and asked which was better.

you being you, you would not answer. In case you'd care to try again and not be scared here it is again (I included winning% if you were stumped by records only). .......

Div A) 359-405 .470
Div B) 354-412 .462

 

[shopson67]

Talk trash about the Raiders but they have faced a tougher schedule so far.

Trash and Raiders in the same sentence? I'll allow it...

 

[shopson67]

So I guess the worse losses so far are Cleveland vs the Jets, Baltimore vs. Miami, Vegas vs. Arizona...

Had to think about it. Those were all pretty bad losses...

Rank them by strength of opposing roster

 

[Black Adam]

Chargers not exactly looking like world beaters, getting plastered by the mighty Jags lol.

STILL thought I was reading that score wrong...

 

[dtgold88]

The “set up well” shit is what I’m pushing back on. How can you say that when experience tells you that you’re watching players who will soon be paid by other teams? It’s “set up well” if the plan is eventually pay those guys and keep them together when it’s time for them to win.

actually, what you pushed back on was just owning the Tribe made some deals that they clearly "won".

as to your latest attempt to rip them most of the guys are under team control close to a half decade. Likely current ownership is out by then. We'll see if the next owner has a will to win.

 

[fightinfunbags]

I asked what's the best way to compare divisions, you said winning % of teams/participants. I gave you the records of the participants and asked which was better.

you being you, you would not answer. In case you'd care to try again and not be scared here it is again. .......

Div A) 359-405
Div B) 354-412

Here it is: .562 .578
.497 .536
.484 .438
.412. .392
.395 .366

The one on the left is the worse division. You want to create varying levels of bad. There’s little difference between differentiating between bad and awful.

 

[shopson67]

lightning in a bottle? Thats what happens when you barely ever make the playoffs like the Phillies.

The Guardians actually pretty consistently make the playoffs.

The Guardians are trying to make the playoffs for the first time ever.

 

[dtgold88]

Can’t disagree. But that being said, when thinking about the economics of TV sports, maybe more so than usual in sports, networks are really rooting hard for certain teams to go deep for the state of the bottom line.

No doubt it's what the Networks want.

 

[dtgold88]

You replied to one of my replies to Wiggy. In that post he mentioned the Marlins and the Nats. That’s why I responded the way I did. Back to the drawing board Perry Mason.

Not going back to see if even true but if it is for some reason you didn't mind talking about the Nats and Marlins.

so to be clear, the only team you think we should avoid in this baseball discussion is the Phillies?

 

[shopson67]

The Phillies have no impact on the payroll in Cleveland and their inability to sign players once they’ve earned a payday.

It's not even inability. It's refusal by one or both parties.

 

[shopson67]

Now doubt it's what the Networks want.

And the fans

 

[shopson67]

STILL thought I was reading that score wrong...

This season is still establishing baselines. Jags might actually be ahead of schedule.

 

[dtgold88]

Here it is: .562 .578
.497 .536
.484 .438
.412. .392
.395 .366

The one on the left is the worse division. You want to create varying levels of bad. There’s little difference between differentiating between bad and awful.

You want to do all you can not to just say based on your own "rule" the NL Central is not as good as the AL Central. You'd prefer to be factually incorrect.

It's Ok.....you can say it. It wont hurt.