Series Thread: NBA Finals: Toronto Raptors vs Golden State Warriors

[dtgold88]

I'll admit I don't give a shit about your online minutiae argument baby games.

And I wasn't supporting anyone I was stating a fact: you are a piece of work

OK...make it 0%

A little help my friend......usually what I do when I really don't care is use the scroll feature. Or did you care enough to tell me you don't care?

 

[msgkings322]

OK...make it 0%

Look at you, big winner!

 

[trojanfan12]

which was why I mentioned the reg. season. You thought their goal was lose more with better players?

Perhaps those better players and no Lebron helped, too?

No, I think their goal was to get exactly where the are.

 

[dtgold88]

No, I think their goal was to get exactly where the are.

I'm sure it was Hindsight Guy.....but without hindsight didn't they think higher seed would have been the better option?

wonder if you will answer the question most ignore......given the choice of last year's team and Nurse or this year and Casey (to be their team next 3 years) who would you take as a Raptor fan?

 

[dtgold88]

Look at you, big winner!

you know I will always give credit where due and let's just say a few I am working with are wondering why I'm laughing out of the blue.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Not sure if it was posted here before but ABC sure as hell isn't suffering loss of viewers due to the lack of a second US market.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Yikes, Lowry has definitely been better this playoffs but don't give him the ball in late game situations...

Draymond Green's last-second block on Kyle Lowry in Game 5 Monday night dropped the Toronto Raptors’ point guard to just 2-of-30 on go-ahead field goal attempts in the final 20 seconds of games over the course of his career.

Lowry's conversion rate of 6.7 per cent is the worst field goal percentage in those situations since he entered the league in 2007-08. Former Milwaukee Bucks point guard Brandon Jennings has the second-worst conversion rate – among players with at least 20 attempts – in that span at 3-for-29 (10.3 per cent).

 

[trojanfan12]

You know who's not better? The Lakers.


Ain't that right @trojanfan12?

No idea what you're talking about. The Lakers are definitely better. They won 37 games after only winning 35 the year before.

 

[dtgold88]

Yikes, Lowry has definitely been better this playoffs but don't give him the ball in late game situations...

Draymond Green's last-second block on Kyle Lowry in Game 5 Monday night dropped the Toronto Raptors’ point guard to just 2-of-30 on go-ahead field goal attempts in the final 20 seconds of games over the course of his career.

Lowry's conversion rate of 6.7 per cent is the worst field goal percentage in those situations since he entered the league in 2007-08. Former Milwaukee Bucks point guard Brandon Jennings has the second-worst conversion rate – among players with at least 20 attempts – in that span at 3-for-29 (10.3 per cent).

Not trying to rip him but curious as I heard it was pretty bad in this metric (or a similar one)....what is steph?

 

[CitySushi]

Not sure if it was posted here before but ABC sure as hell isn't suffering loss of viewers due to the lack of a second US market.

That's because everyone wants to see the Warriors lose, lol.

 

[Heatles84]

Fabulous. Just allows you to join tlance's Extreme Fan Club.

100%? You think a Lebron led team (the way he played last postseason) had a 0% chance to win a series against this Toronto team? Didn't think much before you typed that I'm guessing.

we'll ignore many thought the cavs would lose last year, too.

I knew the Cavs would beat Toronto last year. That group that Toronto had was mentally defeated by Lebron. I think you underestimate how big of a deal Kawhi Leonard is. But hey, do you.

 

[Heatles84]

What flawed logic? It was a fact. They didn't win as many games despite having a better roster. Are you really suggesting they didn't care about seeding for postseason?

Better roster, yet you conveniently keep forgetting that Kawhi missed 22 games during the regular season. You think the Raptors record improves just slightly if he played in 75-82 games?

 

[trojanfan12]

I'm sure it was Hindsight Guy.....but without hindsight didn't they think higher seed would have been the better option?

Considering they sat Kawhi for 22 games, I'm guessing that getting to the playoffs rested and healthy was more important.

 

[Heatles84]

never said they were worse....just made an observation. If Nurse was so much better as many have said AND has a more talented roster one would think they'd at least have the same regular season. You cannot tell me they didn't care about their seed.

We aren't talking Lebron/Cavs or GS who have shown they can win no matter the seed.

Yet you keep forgetting that Kawhi was out 22 games. Talented roster, yes. But you keep focusing on regular season record, yet then fail to bring up Kawhi missing 22 games in the regular season. You keep regurgitating the same shit, yet keep glossing over that big glaring fact.

 

[Heatles84]

No, I think their goal was to get exactly where the are.

Can't recall the last championship team that cared about their regular season record.

 

[dtgold88]

I knew the Cavs would beat Toronto last year. That group that Toronto had was mentally defeated by Lebron. I think you underestimate how big of a deal Kawhi Leonard is. But hey, do you.

I don't underestimate Kawhi at all. He's great. Many of the "mentally defeated" are still on Toronto. Toronto might even beat the Cavs. But a Lebron-led team with a 0% chance? against a team that was a shot away from losing to Philly in round 2?

 

[trojanfan12]

Can't recall the last championship team that cared about their regular season record.

The Warriors in 2016. We saw how that worked out.

 

[Montalban]

It would even out considering the discounts he provided GS the first 3 years that allowed them to retain Livingston and Iggy which resulted in 3 Finals trips and 2 titles (3rd doubtful, but pending). You basically showed your ass on this one as you have no idea who urged Durant to play. And even then, I've never seen a fan diss their team like this.

I'm ashamed that they let Durant talk them into playing. The player is always going to say he's ready. You just can't send him out there when you know his achilles is still compromised, its too easy to aggravate it or really damage it in its weakened state.
I give the team credit for hanging in there last night and staying close enough to even have the opportunity to get lucky at the end but if I was Toronto I'd be feeling supremely confident right now knowing that they've dominated this series and there is no reason to think they won't do the same thing on Thursday.

 

[Heatles84]

I don't underestimate Kawhi at all. He's great. Toronto might even beat the Cavs. But a Lebron-led team with a 0% chance? against a team that was a shot away from losing to Philly in round 2?

How about Toronto beating Milwaukee in 4 straight? That's 1 win away from beating GS?

So again, since I answered your question - do you think Kawhi being out 22 games in the regular season might have something to do with them probably not matching their regular season record from last year?

 

[Montalban]

He helped bring us to two titles, including two finals MVPs and trying to play through an injury to help the team survive in the 3rd finals. He deserves every penny, if not more for what he was compensated the last few seasons.

You bet he does. And it would serve the Warriors right if he chose that option.