NBA Finals: Cleveland Cavs VS Golden State Warriors

[gordontrue]

He knew was was pretty much guaranteed a spot in the Finals.
That is the definition of stacked in NBA terms to me.

He knew he would be on the favorite to win the East... but you could say the same thing for a lot of eastern conference teams with LeBron.

Also, people forget the Bulls perception going into that season. Per-season, Cavs were 5/2 odds, and Bulls were 6/1.

 

[Hambombs]

he was near guaranteed a spot in the Finals no matter what team he would go to in the East....HE makes the team "stacked".

Durant? HELL NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA....lol

Cavs are a lock to make the finals every year

 

[WiggyRuss]

Cavs are a lock to make the finals every year

with good health - as the East is presently constituted it sure looks like no one will challenge.

Boston and Indiana - and maybe Toronto could make it interesting with another move or two....

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

Cavs are a lock to now lose in the finals every year

Thats why the Cavs fans are over Durant doing exactly what James did as a FA.

 

[trojanfan12]

I feel like this is being overstated a bit.

The only difference between the roster from when he announced his decision and opening day was Love -> Wiggins.

I agree that is a big improvement for the Cavs, but it doesn't feel as drastic of a difference as you seem to be making it out to be.

The Cavs overturned 2/3 of their roster. The rosters he ultimately played with and the rosters from the previous season were drastically different. Again, no problem with him doing what he did, but to criticize KD for doing, as some of your fellow Cavs fans have done, is pretty hypocritical.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

with good health - as the East is presently constituted it sure looks like no one will challenge.

Boston and Indiana - and maybe Toronto could make it interesting with another move or two....

Warriors still have to play Spurs.etc..
Say what you want about Durant, he stayed in the West we he had decent options in the East.

 

[Hambombs]

with good health - as the East is presently constituted it sure looks like no one will challenge.

Boston and Indiana - and maybe Toronto could make it interesting with another move or two....

Even without players they still easily make it. Lets not act there is parity in the nba lol

 

[gordontrue]

Cavs are a lock to make the finals every year

Vegas is currently giving the Cavs and Warriors the same odds for making the Finals (1/3).

The west and east each feature only 3 teams with odds better than 30/1... (Warriors, Spurs, Clippers, Cavs, Celtics, Raptors)

 

[gordontrue]

Cavs are a lock to now lose in the finals every year

Hmm... that sounds really familiar. Where have I heard that before?

 

[Hambombs]

The west and east each feature only 3 teams with odds better than 30/1... (Warriors, Spurs, Clippers, Cavs, Celtics, Raptors)[/QUOTE]

Like i said. The cavs are a 100% lock to go to the finals

 

[Hambombs]

Hmm... that sounds really familiar. Where have I heard that before?

Cavs are winning it all, 100% lock. No way they can lose

 

[trojanfan12]

When you have Cavs fans downplaying the talent on their roster and Heat/Lakers/Warriors fans overstating the talent on the Cavs roster.... you know the conversation has gone sideways somewhere.

I'm not sure anything is being overstated or downplayed. All I've said is that both joined stacked teams and it's hypocritical to call KD a coward for joining a stacked team and not say the same about Lebron.

As I stated earlier, it's not as if either of them have chosen the Kobe, Timmy, Dirk option of sticking with one team for their entire career.

It's also not as if either of them chose to join the 14 win Sixers or 17 win Lakers (although I don't think Lebron has signed yet. lol)

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

Hmm... that sounds really familiar. Where have I heard that before?

I'm pretty sure I said 35% chance, even when down 3-1.

Of course it's really not 'never' when you have James, but I'm liking the Warriors chances, and so must the Cavs fans since none are willing to bet on them.

 

[Hambombs]

I'm not sure anything is being overstated or downplayed. All I've said is that both joined stacked teams and it's hypocritical to call KD a coward for joining a stacked team and not say the same about Lebron.

As I stated earlier, it's not as if either of them have chosen the Kobe, Timmy, Dirk option of sticking woth one team for their entire career.

It's also not as if either of them chose to join the 14 win Sixers or 17 win Lakers (although I don't think Lebron has signed yet. lol)

Exactly. Doesnt really matter how many stars or the severity of the star. Youre still joing "star players" same thing

 

[gordontrue]

Exactly. Doesnt really matter how many stars or the severity of the star. Youre still joing "star players" same thing

I understand that argument... but we don't have to pretend like the talent is exactly the same in order to make that argument.

 

[Hambombs]

I understand that argument... but we don't have to pretend like the talent is exactly the same in order to make that argument.

Dont worry. Lebron23james told me you guys are a lock to win so no worries.

 

[gordontrue]

A lot of you are on record as saying that the Warriors - without Durant - are a better team than the Cavs - with LeBron.

And now the same people are arguing that the Cavs without LeBron are the same thing as the Warriors without Durant.

 

[gordontrue]

I have zero problem with Durant's decision. I haven't criticized it, and I don't plan to.

But most people would agree that Durant is coming into a FAR, FAR better situation than LeBron ever did.

Its ok to admit that and still think the situations are comparable.

 

[Hambombs]

I have zero problem with Durant's decision. I haven't criticized it, and I don't plan to.

But most people would agree that Durant is coming into a FAR, FAR better situation than LeBron ever did.

Its ok to admit that and still think the situations are comparable.

Hes coming into a better situation. When lebron joined cleveland they were the favorite right out of the gate. And then came the home grown warriors

 

[Wamu]

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