NBA Finals: Cleveland Cavs VS Golden State Warriors

[msgkings322]

To be fair, Lebron knew that his window for leading a team to a title is closing. He is in "win now" mode. He didn't want to have to wait 2-3 years for Wiggins to develop, if he ever did. Love was an established star that Lebron figured could help him win right now.

Unfortunately for him, it hasn't worked out that way thus far. But it was the right move at the time given his goals.

OK so which is it, is LeBron a shitty GM or not?

 

[True Lakers Fan]

To be fair, Lebron knew that his window for leading a team to a title is closing. He is in "win now" mode. He didn't want to have to wait 2-3 years for Wiggins to develop, if he ever did. Love was an established star that Lebron figured could help him win right now.

Unfortunately for him, it hasn't worked out that way thus far. But it was the right move at the time given his goals.

Not much choice if you ask me and if he is in the win now mode, then Miami or even the Spurs or Dallas or the Bulls would have been better choices. Cleveland was a WTF decision

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Some noob.

Did you check the cyber-fingerprint?

No match...lol

 

[trojanfan12]

Where they messed up was keeping Kyrie over Wiggins. Fine if they wanted Love...but trade Mr. injury prone for a younger-and most importantly- healthier Wiggins.

That assumes that the T-Wolves would want Kyrie. I'm not so sure they would given the aforementioned injury proneness.

 

[LAD]

Problem?

Oh, where do I start?

 

[bksballer89]

Oh, where do I start?

With #1

 

[LAD]

That assumes that the T-Wolves would want Kyrie. I'm not so sure they would given the aforementioned injury proneness.

This is true...but something is better than nothing so maybe the fear of Love walking in FA would've been the motivation to take Kyrie. I mean who wouldn't want the #1 pick in that summer's draft for a 4 that's already reached his ceiling?

 

[bksballer89]

Skip call tomorrow the most important game of LBJ's career. Do you agree @trojanfan12 and @tlance ? I think Game 6 and 7 of the 2013 finals were bigger. Can also make a case that game 6 of the conference 2012 finals was actually the most important game of his career after game 7 of the 2013 finals

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

OK so which is it, is LeBron a shitty GM or not?

It didn't work out. So, the easy answer is yes.

But, hindsight is 20/20.

At the time, they were the right moves to make.

Lebron is the Cavs window. So, they needed to try and win now.

Their moves weren't necessarily BAD. It's just the Warriors moves were BETTER.

 

[LAD]

With #1

So hard to do when so many qualify as a #1.....

 

[trojanfan12]

I think his opinion about not wanting LBJ on the Lakers was a consensus among Laker fans.

Not me. I would have gladly accepted him on the Lakers, it would have instantly made them contenders again. He would have been like Kobe for me. Wouldn't like him, but would enjoy the winning that came with him being on the team.

 

[bksballer89]

This is true...but something is better than nothing so maybe the fear of Love walking in FA would've been the motivation to take Kyrie. I mean who wouldn't want the #1 pick in that summer's draft for a 4 that's already reached his ceiling?

I don't think anyone thought Love reached his ceiling at that point. I actually don't think he has.

 

[bksballer89]

Not me. I would have gladly accepted him on the Lakers, it would have instantly made them contenders again. He would have been like Kobe for me. Wouldn't like him, but would enjoy the winning that came with him being on the team.

Winning trumps everything

 

[LAD]

Not me. I would have gladly accepted him on the Lakers, it would have instantly made them contenders again. He would have been like Kobe for me. Wouldn't like him, but would enjoy the winning that came with him being on the team.

Not me. One of the things I enjoyed most about Kobe after his dedication to the game was his ability to display confidence on the court but also be candid in his pressers.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

I don't think anyone thought Love reached his ceiling at that point. I actually don't think he has.

He has been reduced to Steve Kerr status for the Bulls and Spurs.

Stand in the corner and shoot a three....IF we pass you the ball.

 

[LAD]

I don't think anyone thought Love reached his ceiling at that point. I actually don't think he has.

Well then if this is true why hasn't he gotten better since playing with LBJ? Don't you agree that the opportunity is there?

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

Skip call tomorrow the most important game of LBJ's career. Do you agree @trojanfan12 and @tlance ? I think Game 6 and 7 of the 2013 finals were bigger. Can also make a case that game 6 of the conference 2012 finals was actually the most important game of his career after game 7 of the 2013 finals

How could it possibly be the biggest game of his career unless it's the start of them winning 4 games?
I'd call it more of an audition to see if you're on the roster next season.

Not many expected them to get swept.
If it happens, it's just a hilarious bonus.

 

[LAD]

He has been reduced to Steve Kerr status for the Bulls and Spurs.

Stand in the corner and shoot a three....IF we pass you the ball.

Usually a sign that you can't teach an old dog new tricks.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Not me. I would have gladly accepted him on the Lakers, it would have instantly made them contenders again. He would have been like Kobe for me. Wouldn't like him, but would enjoy the winning that came with him being on the team.

Yeah, besides threats game of his career, the only time I have rooted for Kobe was during the Olympics.

He and Melo saved out ass.

I loved America more than I hated Kobe.

 

[trojanfan12]

OK so which is it, is LeBron a shitty GM or not?

I never said he was a shitty GM. I said he took on the responsibility of playing GM, so whatever happens is on him. But that doesn't mean he's a shitty GM.

The moves he forced/influenced/made were the right moves at the time because he was building a team to contend with the Spurs and OKC.

It's similar to the Dwight/Nash trade with the Lakers. That was a trade that every other GM in the league would have made and most believed made the Lakers contenders. Just because Dwight ended up being a bitch and Nash's body fell apart on him, doesn't mean Mitch is suddenly a shitty GM. But the result was still pretty much on him since he was the GM.

Sometimes, what appears to be the right move, just doesn't work out.