Name Change

[PEOPLESCHICKEN]

How about simply NO team nicknames? Just go by the city they are located in? Sorry NY Jets, seat's taken

 

[Rowdy]

What an excellent leader. I’m glad he gave a speech the other night where his face will be after his term is over.

 

[Breed]

How about the teams with Indians mascots contribute financial resources to NA communities? Ya know, because the casinos have worked so well to fix social problems there

Heh. The casino comment is nice. I could see teams with NA based names doing something like that...….not from the goodness of their hearts though. They'd want naming rights put on lock down, never to be messed with again.

States where tribes are located and/or have been relocated by the Fed Gov't should receive help via those avenues.

 

[countryroads316]

What an excellent leader. I’m glad he gave a speech the other night where his face will be after his term is over.

He is definitely not wrong on this I agree with him

 

[chillerdab]

No politics, skinsdad?

 

[skinsdad62]

I think I said I was easing it up and then move it. Perhaps that was in another thread

 

[gkekoa]

Heh. The casino comment is nice. I could see teams with NA based names doing something like that...….not from the goodness of their hearts though. They'd want naming rights put on lock down, never to be messed with again.

States where tribes are located and/or have been relocated by the Fed Gov't should receive help via those avenues.

Honest question...why should tribes receive anything from the federal government? They are supposed to be separate nations. Separate nations should be able to support themselves. What do they bring to the table?

 

[Breed]

Honest question...why should tribes receive anything from the federal government? They are supposed to be separate nations. Separate nations should be able to support themselves. What do they bring to the table?

Broken Promises On Display At Native American Treaties Exhibit

Broken Treaties — AAPF

manifest destiny

 

[skinsdad62]

Broken Promises On Display At Native American Treaties Exhibit

Broken Treaties — AAPF

manifest destiny

Can’t disagree with that but also know no other country in the world would consider doing what we did after the fact usually the defeated people ate the shit sandwich

 

[gkekoa]

Broken Promises On Display At Native American Treaties Exhibit

Broken Treaties — AAPF

manifest destiny

Thank you actually. Believe me, I don’t think our history is perfect; however, I do believe it is the greatest in history, with fewer ills than any, and far greater good has been a result.

As for the American Indian, I stand by the statement I have always made, and that is what made the land theirs? They killed off each other all the time in a fight for land and power. We fought better. This is true of every country in history but we are the only ones who ever feel guilt. I think it is pathetic.

 

[Sportster 72]

True that the conquering people normally just take over if that is their desire. Some integrate, like the Vikings in the British Isles. What made the land theirs …. they possessed it.

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If all you wanted to do was change a football teams name then you missed the mark.

 

[steveringo]

What is this?

 

[Wild Turkey]

Red Tails sounds goofy as hell

There is a lot you could do with it and those guys are American heroes. Just imagine three vintage P-51 Mustangs flying over the stadium before games.

It is actually a pretty cool deal.

 

[steveringo]

Can the mods please move this to the NFL boards?

 

[tnapucco]

 

[DetroitDevil]

The washington snyders sounds fantastic. Snyder is the best thing to ever happen to that team! God bless snyder with 40 more yrs of ownership!

 

[Rowdy]

The washington snyders sounds fantastic. Snyder is the best thing to ever happen to that team! God bless snyder with 40 more yrs of ownership!

I know they almost suck as much as the lions do

 

[Breed]

if you cant use warriors or braves that links back to the history of the team then the whole premise of the name being a slur is false . its about much much more .

Can't say I see or understand your rationale for this ^^^^^. How would not being able to re-name the Skins the Warriors or Braves. Prove the premise of the Redskins name being a slur as false?

that being said i think you should just break away completely and go with renegades or generals or senators or federals and such

not that i would get on board with it but if you try to force a name for the sake of honoring a group of people you may open a can of worms you arent anticipating

Now this rationale ^^^^^^ I certainly can see and given the world we live in today. I'd say its prudent. Though if the team were to go in the direction of Red Tails or RedHawks. I think they'd be on pretty safe n solid ground there. The thing I think that has to be avoided is naming the team anything that will be referred to as a person or peoples.

As an example. Redskins, Braves or Warriors will be/can be all looked at as a person/groups of people. Whereas Red Tails or RedHawks is specific to a type of fighter plane. And even if it was applied to a person, if someone were to say. He's a Red Tail or he's part of the RedHawk squadron. The origin of both comes from a source of something to be proud of. Who knows though. The original term Redskins wasn't meant as a slur and yet it was co-opted and turned into one over time, so...……

I'll just speak for myself and say. Since being made aware of where the term RedHawks comes by @chillerdab It has grown on me and I'm liking it more n more. It still won't feel the same as Redskins, but it is cool and it would be a damn sight better than Pentagons, Monuments or anything Washington-centric.

 

[Rowdy]

Can't say I see or understand your rationale for this ^^^^^. How would not being able to re-name the Skins the Warriors or Braves. Prove the premise of the Redskins name being a slur as false?



Now this rationale ^^^^^^ I certainly can see and given the world we live in today. I'd say its prudent. Though if the team were to go in the direction of Red Tails or RedHawks. I think they'd be on pretty safe n solid ground there. The thing I think that has to be avoided is naming the team anything that will be referred to as a person or peoples.

As an example. Redskins, Braves or Warriors will be/can be all looked at as a person/groups of people. Whereas Red Tails or RedHawks is specific to a type of fighter plane. And even if it was applied to a person, if someone were to say. He's a Red Tail or he's part of the RedHawk squadron. The origin of both comes from a source of something to be proud of. Who knows though. The original term Redskins wasn't meant as a slur and yet it was co-opted and turned into one over time, so...……

I'll just speak for myself and say. Since being made aware of where the term RedHawks comes by @chillerdab It has grown on me and I'm liking it more n more. It still won't feel the same as Redskins, but it is cool and it would be a damn sight better than Pentagons, Monuments or anything Washington-centric.

There’s also a fairly famous Indian Chief named Redhawk so that’s out.

 

[Ruzious]

Believe it or not, there was already a parody website set up for the Washington Redhawks in 2017. Go Washington Redhawks!