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Impossible. Martin Mayhew is the worst GM in the league. If he had the ability to turn this around it would have happened by now.

Lombardi wasn't our only problem. Far from it.

Mayhew's Lions have been to the playoffs twice. There are a quite a few teams who haven't sniffed the playoffs in that time. That's not an endorsement of Mayhew, just a fact.
 

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Right back at you. The fact that Miami doesn't have Mayhew as GM makes them worlds greater than the Lions. They've also got the ability to woo star players, something Detroit proved last off season it cannot do. Their current GM is the guy who built the Jets, a team everyone here seems to love, so I think they'll be ok.

Miami also has 3 wins, while Detroit will be lucky to see that all year.

You're better off comparing the Lions to teams like the Jaguars, Titans, and Texans. Those are the teams Detroit will be drafting near next April, not Miami.

Yea, do your homework on that one, Bro. Dennis Hickey never worked for the Jets, he worked for the awful Bucs for almost 20 years. TrustMe's opinion about the Dolphins being like the Lions rings true here too. Hickey worked for terrible GMs like Mark Dominik and Bruce Allen just as Meyhew worked for Millen before he was hired as a GM.
 

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Mayhew's Lions have been to the playoffs twice. There are a quite a few teams who haven't sniffed the playoffs in that time. That's not an endorsement of Mayhew, just a fact.

That's all the Lions have been good for since 1993 is One & Done. Your right it's not an endorsement, just a fact. So tell me TBB, is that all the Lions fans have to look forward to... every three years One and Done or nothing at all?
 

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That's all the Lions have been good for since 1993 is One & Done. Your right it's not an endorsement, just a fact. So tell me TBB, is that all the Lions fans have to look forward to... every three years One and Done or nothing at all?

Throughout the first 10 years of this millenia, we didn't even have one & done. One & done is better than just done. Obviously we all want a winner, a yearly contender. But lets be real here. This may be the most jaded fan base in sports. How much confidence do you have that Martha will hire the next great GM? That GM will bring in the next great coach? The next great QB? My guess is you don't really have any confidence that will happen. Most of us don't. So at the end of the day Mayhew has put together a talented team. Obviously if he was perfect, we wouldn't be where we are. But I also don't want it blown up because the chances are greater that the right people will not be hired which will just make shit more miserable than they are now. Like 2000s miserable! So, yea, I'd rather this GM, this coach, this QB, this collection of talent for the most part, to get their shit together and win something rather than starting over again with all the hope and disappointment that usually comes with that.
 

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Mayhew's Lions have been to the playoffs twice. There are a quite a few teams who haven't sniffed the playoffs in that time. That's not an endorsement of Mayhew, just a fact.

Thanks to Suh, Calvin in his prime and Stafford masking an otherwise depleted roster. Two of those things are gone now = 1-6.
 

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Thanks to Suh, Calvin in his prime and Stafford masking an otherwise depleted roster. Two of those things are gone now = 1-6.

Even if you're right, what does that matter?
 

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Yea, do your homework on that one, Bro. Dennis Hickey never worked for the Jets, he worked for the awful Bucs for almost 20 years. TrustMe's opinion about the Dolphins being like the Lions rings true here too. Hickey worked for terrible GMs like Mark Dominik and Bruce Allen just as Meyhew worked for Millen before he was hired as a GM.

I'm talking about Mike Tannebaum, current Miami VP of football operations, not GM. My mistake.

As for Hickey, the Bucs saw the playoffs 6 times while he worked in scouting, including a SB ring. Martin Mayhew can only dream of such accolades.
 

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I'm talking about Mike Tannebaum, current Miami VP of football operations, not GM. My mistake.

Must have been a typo. I swear you just make stuff up as you go. And you don't understand why I said you are my entertainment.

TY TBBishop for that post -- you saved me the hassle of typing it out.
 

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I swear you just make stuff up as you go

That's cause you're a hater. God forbid a make a mistake now and then. Ex-Jets GM works for Fins now. That was my point.
 

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So are the Dolphins 3-4 thanks to Suh, while playing the 2nd easiest schedule in the NFL up to this point?

There are seven 3-4 teams in the NFL right now, all of them light years better than the Lions.
 

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That's cause you're a hater. God forbid a make a mistake now and then. Ex-Jets GM works for Fins now. That was my point.

We have the Broncos ex-GM in our front office -- who cares?
 

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There are seven 3-4 teams in the NFL right now, all of them light years better than the Lions.

I don't doubt many of them are. Miami isn't one of them though. They are so much like the Lions -- they'd probably end up tied at the end of the game.
 

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Must have been a typo. I swear you just make stuff up as you go. And you don't understand why I said you are my entertainment.

TY TBBishop for that post -- you saved me the hassle of typing it out.

No typo... I knew who he meant immediately. The typo was his title. Rob and I spoke of him right after Suh was signed. He has more power than Hickey it seems anyway. At least from some articles I've read.
 

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We have the Broncos ex-GM in our front office -- who cares?

Again, you're making the all too common Lions fan mistake of assuming anyone else operates as poorly as the Lions. They don't.
 

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I don't doubt many of them are. Miami isn't one of them though. They are so much like the Lions -- they'd probably end up tied at the end of the game.

Miami TE coach has more wins in 3 games than your HC has in his last 9. Try harder.
 

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No typo... I knew who meant immediately. The typo was his title. Rob and I spoke of him right after Suh was signed. He has more power than Hickey it seems anyway. At least from some articles I've read.

Stop. It's more fun for me when Mike is in irrational personal attack mode. Reminds me of TP.
 

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. They are so much like the Lions .

This, I 100% agree with. Told Rob in the spring how scary these franchises resemble each other. He's been a fan since April. Give him time to see it. You're speaking of the teams now, I'm talking about the last twenty years.
 
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