Most Overrated/Underrated

[Cedrique]

I'd agree on Vladdy. The 130 OPS+ and 17 WAR thru age 25 sounds good, but he's only had two seasons with an OPS+ of 130 or higher (next best is 122 this year). he's wowed in the HR derby and minor leagues, but his power numbers aside from 2021 haven't been that impressive (three seasons with an ISO below .200, and only a .202 career ISO). he needs to get more lift in his swing and stop hitting so many ground balls. hard hit and exit velocity only matter so much when you hit the ball into the dirt on a regular basis. he's been a good major leaguer, but more good than great.

On the plus side, it looks like he's in better shape this year than he used to be. A couple years ago it looked like he was on a path to becoming morbidly obese to the point where he'd be out of baseball by the time he was 32 or something. (ok, morbidly obese is an exaggeration but he definitely looks like he's in better shape this season)

 

[molsaniceman]

On the plus side, it looks like he's in better shape this year than he used to be. A couple years ago it looked like he was on a path to becoming morbidly obese to the point where he'd be out of baseball by the time he was 32 or something. (ok, morbidly obese is an exaggeration but he definitely looks like he's in better shape this season)

he just lost 25 lbs he cut his hair

 

[redskinsfan1963]

kris Bryant fell to shit after his cubby time.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Philadelphia did not overpay to keep Nola. It seems like at least half of their fans are less than thrilled with him overall. In what sense do you see him as overrated?

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Prior to 2022 and 2023, I was a Phillies fan that was on the trade Aaron Nola/ don’t resign Aaron Nola train. For two seasons I had my eye on Corbin Burnes and his issues in Milwaukee with arbitration getting ugly and I wanted the Phils to go that direction.

I was wrong. I had seen Nola fail down the stretch in numerous seasons. In 2022 September he was lights out. He was great in both playoffs. Nola is all day consistent. The problem is that with his stuff if he isn’t living on the black and he misses, in Citizens Bank Park his mistakes are home runs.

I’m very pleased to have Nola now. I don’t think he’s a top 10 arm in baseball. I think he is top 5-7 in the NL. Starting pitching is expensive. I think Nola’s deal is fair for both parties.

 

[fightinfunbags]

imo, he's a poor man's Hamels. Not HOF, but HOVG

This is a great comparison. Ironically, they may also be the best home grown pitchers the Phillies have had in my lifetime.

 

[mr.hockey4242]

All Star Luis Arraez now has a ghastly .716 OPS

With zero base running or defensive value

 

[msgkings322]

All Star Luis Arraez now has a ghastly .716 OPS

With zero base running or defensive value

Baseball is a harsh mistress sometimes....remember how good Corbin Carroll was last year? Blake Snell?

 

[mr.hockey4242]

Baseball is a harsh mistress sometimes....remember how good Corbin Carroll was last year? Blake Snell?

Corbin Carroll can run and field.

Arraez has .3 tools. Hitting singles.

 

[msgkings322]

Corbin Carroll can run and field.

Arraez has .3 tools. Hitting singles.

Don't disagree there just noticing a couple guys who were really regressing this year since you brought up Arraez

 

[fightinfunbags]

Baseball is a harsh mistress sometimes....remember how good Corbin Carroll was last year? Blake Snell?

I thought you’d see Snell regression. Corbin Carroll is shocking to me and wouldn’t be surprised to see him have a fire second half. On Arraez though I always thought people were making too much of a singles hitter.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Corbin Carroll can run and field.

Arraez has .3 tools. Hitting singles.

Ninjaed

 

[msgkings322]

I thought you’d see Snell regression. Corbin Carroll is shocking to me and wouldn’t be surprised to see him have a fire second half. On Arraez though I always thought people were making too much of a singles hitter.

Snell just had his best start by far for the year (5 innings 0 runs) so maybe he finally has his head out of his ass. Was a second half pitcher last year too.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Snell just had his best start by far for the year (5 innings 0 runs) so maybe he finally has his head out of his ass. Was a second half pitcher last year too.

I thought a lot of Snell was Petco

 

[msgkings322]

I thought a lot of Snell was Petco

PacBell shouldn't be much different though, we'll see

 

[mr.hockey4242]

Don't disagree there just noticing a couple guys who were really regressing this year since you brought up Arraez

Yeah I truly have no clue what happened with Carroll very bizaree

Snell smaller sample size and was good in his return.

Should feast on Kyle Farmer Sunday as well

 

[msgkings322]

Yeah I truly have no clue what happened with Carroll very bizaree

Snell smaller sample size and was good in his return.

Should feast on Kyle Farmer Sunday as well

From your lips to Kirby Puckett’s ears!

 

[Cedrique]

PacBell shouldn't be much different though, we'll see

Yeah Snell should do better in SF. That's a tough park for right handed batters.

 

[mr.hockey4242]

Yeah Snell should do better in SF. That's a tough park for right handed batters.

Well,

Twins are fucked tonight

Starting 9 righties

 

[Cedrique]

Well,

Twins are fucked tonight

Starting 9 righties

Well they're doing the right thing against Snell. It's just really tough for righties to hit home runs there.

 

[mr.hockey4242]

Well they're doing the right thing against Snell. It's just really tough for righties to hit home runs there.

Haha snell is Sunday.

Tonight is Harrison.