More evidence small committee is bad idea

[yeodonie]

Pollstalker

In a large poll this idiot gets washed out. As one of 12 his idiocy is huge

 

[FSUmanager]

THey haven't released who is going to be part of the committee. So complaining about 1 pollster out there is downright pathetic. Is that because where he ranked Oregon? Yes his top 3 picks are way out of whack, but so what it is week TWO!!!

 

[4down20]

THey haven't released who is going to be part of the committee. So complaining about 1 pollster out there is downright pathetic. Is that because where he ranked Oregon? Yes his top 3 picks are way out of whack, but so what it is week TWO!!!

He's talking about the size of the committee and the lack of other voters to cancel out a single bad voter.

1 vote out of 4 = 25%

1 vote out of 100 = 1%

etc

 

[yeodonie]

The idea is that any person can come up with stupid shit for a poll and it will have large consequences in a small poll rather then get washed out in a large sample. There's a reason why small sample polls and experiments are dismissed

 

[TexasMan]

What the shit

 

[FSUmanager]

He's talking about the size of the committee and the lack of other voters to cancel out a single bad voter.

1 vote out of 4 = 25%

1 vote out of 100 = 1%

etc

I understand what he is talking about. But he is singling out this one pollster when he has no idea IF this guy will be part of the committee. Until that is announced why be complaining about something that may never happen? That is my point.

 

[KansasSooner]

What if all voters are whacky and it ends up being random noise? Could happen if you get too many...

 

[MarkOU]

I kinda like his poll. His top four teams have beat teams of substance whereas Alabama Oregon Stanford Ohio State have not.

 

[yeodonie]

What the shit

Exactly

 

[4down20]

I understand what he is talking about. But he is singling out this one pollster when he has no idea IF this guy will be part of the committee. Until that is announced why be complaining about something that may never happen? That is my point.

You are missing the point. It has nothing to do with this 1 particular voter.

 

[4down20]

What if all voters are whacky and it ends up being random noise? Could happen if you get too many...

Nope.

I seen a thing where people were guessing at a jar of beans and how many were inside it.

Individually the numbers were all over the place. Some people extremely low, some people extremely high and some people close, etc.

But oddly enough, when you took all the guesses made and averaged them out, as would happen with large numbers of poll voters, the average actually ended up being almost right, or really close to being right.

 

[OnlyCrimson]

0 people agree with this idiot's top 5. He should not be allowed to even cast a ballot.

 

[KansasSooner]

Nope.

I seen a thing where people were guessing at a jar of beans and how many were inside it.

Individually the numbers were all over the place. Some people extremely low, some people extremely high and some people close, etc.

But oddly enough, when you took all the guesses made and averaged them out, as would happen with large numbers of poll voters, the average actually ended up being almost right, or really close to being right.

I am well aware it could end up that way but statistically speaking there is that probability it couldn't. The law of large numbers doesn't guarantee valid results.

 

[yeodonie]

Nope.

I seen a thing where people were guessing at a jar of beans and how many were inside it.

Individually the numbers were all over the place. Some people extremely low, some people extremely high and some people close, etc.

But oddly enough, when you took all the guesses made and averaged them out, as would happen with large numbers of poll voters, the average actually ended up being almost right, or really close to being right.

This guy gets it

 

[FSUmanager]

You are missing the point. It has nothing to do with this 1 particular voter.

No I understand the point completely. The point I am making is that NOBODY knows who will be part of the committee. So until those people are selected what is the point of bitching about it? Once they are chosen you can then look at their polling and see if they are nuts or not. Until then he is beating his head against a brick wall for NOTHING.

 

[yeodonie]

No I understand the point completely. The point I am making is that NOBODY knows who will be part of the committee. So until those people are selected what is the point of bitching about it? Once they are chosen you can then look at their polling and see if they are nuts or not. Until then he is beating his head against a brick wall for NOTHING.

The point is there shouldn't be a small committee at all. Period

 

[FSUmanager]

If the OP does not like a selection committee did he like it before the BCS? There are always people bitching about whatever system they are using. There is no perfect system when you are dealing with other people's OPINION on who they think is better. There were many years before the BCS that people thought having pollsters was rigged or unfair too. What is his solution?

 

[FSUmanager]

The point is there shouldn't be a small committee at all. Period

Look at my post right above. Read it and answer the question I posed.

 

[4down20]

If the OP does not like a selection committee did he like it before the BCS? There are always people bitching about whatever system they are using. There is no perfect system when you are dealing with other people's OPINION on who they think is better. There were many years before the BCS that people thought having pollsters was rigged or unfair too. What is his solution?

The problem before the BCS was #1 did not always play #2 in the bowl games.

 

[geneh_33]

I kinda like his poll. His top four teams have beat teams of substance whereas Alabama Oregon Stanford Ohio State have not.

I do like the ACC love.