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[scotsman1948]

So why is it okay to improve your pitching mid season, but not an outfielder that is hurting the team?

because one is not hurting the team as much as you seem to think he is while starting pitching is

 

[jta4437]

lol seriously? A sub 3 ERA with 12 wins at the all-star break is more valuable than a .260 hitter any day, I don't care how many bombs you have. We have guys that could replace him that might not hit bombs but could certainly get on base and hit for average. Both big losses, but I will go pitching over hitting every time.

because the A's have the means to replace Colon moreso than the rangers have the means to replace Cruz, that was said before

It was an opinion question, don't freak out

 

[romeo212000]

because one is not hurting the team as much as you seem to think he is while starting pitching is

And you can back that up how? Murphy's .673 OPS isn't hurting the team that bad? Give me a break.

 

[jta4437]

because one is not hurting the team as much as you seem to think he is while starting pitching is

I'll contend its hurting far more than you think

 

[Wkbrdr2234]

because the A's have the means to replace Colon moreso than the rangers have the means to replace Cruz, that was said before

It was an opinion question, don't freak out

What? "lol" is the opposite of freaking out, don't get overly emotional, and no, the A's could not easily replace a sub 3, 12 game winner more easily.

 

[scotsman1948]

I'll contend its hurting far more than you think

well that's your opinion and mine is that we need a starting pitcher far more than we do a replacement for Murphy. that's the nice thing about chatrooms we can express our opinions

 

[romeo212000]

well that's your opinion and mine is that we need a starting pitcher far more than we do a replacement for Murphy. that's the nice thing about chatrooms we can express our opinions

Except some of us can back up our opinions with facts.

 

[jta4437]

What? "lol" is the opposite of freaking out, don't get overly emotional, and no, the A's could not easily replace a sub 3, 12 game winner more easily.

Who do the Rangers replace Cruz with??

Agree to disagree

And "lol" and "haha" don't mean much to me, they tend to just be ways of deflecting a truly emotional response, so someone can so later "I was totally kidding!"

 

[jta4437]

well that's your opinion and mine is that we need a starting pitcher far more than we do a replacement for Murphy. that's the nice thing about chatrooms we can express our opinions

I never said we needed a replacement for Murphy more, In fact several places, we need to upgrade the rotation NOW and then look into replacements for Murphy

I simply said that a replacement for Murphy is needed MORE THAN YOU THINK

 

[romeo212000]

I never said we needed a replacement for Murphy more, In fact several places, we need to upgrade the rotation NOW and then look into replacements for Murphy

Point is, if we have an opportunity to upgrade at Murphy's position for a reasonable cost, we need to do it.

 

[scotsman1948]

Except some of us can back up our opinions with facts.

Have you? I've presented the fact that we are winning as a team and you blew that off as unimportant. I ask you how many games differences would there be if you benched Murphy and put someone else out there and you didn't have an answer other than to say that there would be. all you have presented is OPS and if we go by that then we should bench Andrus too because his OPS is even worse than Murphy's.

 

[jta4437]

Point is, if we have an opportunity to upgrade at Murphy's position for a reasonable cost, we need to do it.

Agreed, but primary focus is the rotation

I can live with a combination of parts in LF in the meantime, but this season is going to get ugly fast if we are forced to rely on Lindblom, Perez, Wolf and Grimm to fill the last 2 spots in the rotation

Perez is doing well now, but he's young and rough times I'm betting are ahead

 

[romeo212000]

Have you? I've presented the fact that we are winning as a team and you blew that off as unimportant. I ask you how many games differences would there be if you benched Murphy and put someone else out there and you didn't have an answer other than to say that there would be. all you have presented is OPS and if we go by that then we should bench Andrus too because his OPS is even worse than Murphy's.

Your facts are laughable. Team record? Are you kidding me? I've pointed out Murphy's torrid .673 OPS. Yeah, it's killing the team.

Team record?

 

[jta4437]

Have you? I've presented the fact that we are winning as a team and you blew that off as unimportant. I ask you how many games differences would there be if you benched Murphy and put someone else out there and you didn't have an answer other than to say that there would be. all you have presented is OPS and if we go by that then we should bench Andrus too because his OPS is even worse than Murphy's.

I simply contended we would have more wins, and thats all that should matter (by your logic)

Andrus is deemed to be a long term part of the franchise, Murphy is not and Michael Young was not either

 

[Wkbrdr2234]

Agreed, but primary focus is the rotation

I can live with a combination of parts in LF in the meantime, but this season is going to get ugly fast if we are forced to rely on Lindblom, Perez, Wolf and Grimm to fill the last 2 spots in the rotation

Perez is doing well now, but he's young and rough times I'm betting are ahead

Ok well, how can you assume my response is emotional through words? You can't, if I put "lol", it literally means its funny, or I'm being sarcastic, neither are emotional. Some of you do not take criticism or disagreement very well, I promise you do not know everything, and thats ok.

 

[scotsman1948]

I never said we needed a replacement for Murphy more, In fact several places, we need to upgrade the rotation NOW and then look into replacements for Murphy

I simply said that a replacement for Murphy is needed MORE THAN YOU THINK

I also think we need a replacement for Murphy but the difference is when I think it is important to do it. I am not in as big a rush to get that replacement as Romeo is because I think there are more important areas, i.e. starting pitching, that should have JD's focus.

hopefully Murphy will only be a memory after the season is over and then we will have to find replacements for both him and Cruz and it won't cost us anybody

 

[jta4437]

Ok well, how can you assume my response is emotional through words? You can't, if I put "lol", it literally means its funny, or I'm being sarcastic, neither are emotional. Some of you do not take criticism or disagreement very well, I promise you do not know everything, and thats ok.

Same goes for you pal, I take far more from the "tone" of your post than you putting a little "lol" in there

I take disagreement and criticism just fine as long as its rational and makes sense, scotsman tends to do neither

 

[romeo212000]

You want some facts? How about these awesome numbers. 76 wRC+, .674 OPS, .285 OBP, .389 SLG, 0.6 fWAR.

Yeah he's not hurting this team.

 

[scotsman1948]

I simply contended we would have more wins, and thats all that should matter (by your logic)

Andrus is deemed to be a long term part of the franchise, Murphy is not and Michael Young was not either

and i'm happy that Murphy is not a long term part of the franchise but use the prospects to get a starting pitcher now and replace Murphy in the off-season

 

[Wkbrdr2234]

Can we stop the Murphy argument? It's a waste of time and the right answer is obvious to most. You're entitled to your opinion in a forum, yea? Good stuff, moving on.