MLB (Non Mariners) Off Season News

[NWinAZ]

Well so much for Blake Snell. MLB really needs to step in somehow.

 

[wazzu31]

Just seems the MLB and MLBPA needs to do something about the Dodgers, if they don’t I think the MLBPA is going to implode.

 

[NWinAZ]

Just seems the MLB and MLBPA needs to do something about the Dodgers, if they don’t I think the MLBPA is going to implode.

Dynasties don't work for ratings no matter what some leagues try to push on you. I am a die hard sports guy since 1975-76 and even I get tired of it and don't even bother watching this crap anymore.

 

[wazzu31]

Dynasties don't work for ratings no matter what some leagues try to push on you. I am a die hard sports guy since 1975-76 and even I get tired of it and don't even bother watching this crap anymore.

Well I’m thinking more along the lines of the MLBPA though. If the MLBPA doesn’t do something about this then they are going to be forced into a salary cap cause no fanbase is going to give a cent about their strike if there is only one fanbase that cares about the sport.

 

[NWinAZ]

Well I’m thinking more along the lines of the MLBPA though. If the MLBPA doesn’t do something about this then they are going to be forced into a salary cap cause no fanbase is going to give a cent about their strike if there is only one fanbase that cares about the sport.

MLBPA doesn't look at the risks. They never have. They think the well will never go dry. MLB has to be the one to require it or hold out. It won't happen in my lifetime, but it needs to happen before it ruins the game.

 

[wazzu31]

MLBPA doesn't look at the risks. They never have. They think the well will never go dry. MLB has to be the one to require it or hold out. It won't happen in my lifetime, but it needs to happen before it ruins the game.

I’m not so sure about that at the moment though. They had the attempted MLBPA coup and there has never been a bigger gap between those who make money and those who don’t. Along with the MLBPA is doing nothing about the MLB trying to gut the minor leagues.

 

[NWinAZ]

 

[NWinAZ]

I’m not so sure about that at the moment though. They had the attempted MLBPA coup and there has never been a bigger gap between those who make money and those who don’t. Along with the MLBPA is doing nothing about the MLB trying to gut the minor leagues.

Why would the PA want to stop teams from paying out the nose? And with MLB making record profits, why would they want a cap? The days of what is best for baseball are long gone. It ended when free agency began.

Maybe I am wrong on this, but up until a year or so ago the PA had nothing to do with minor leaguers. That is why they weren't fighting for them. It was my understanding the players weren't apart of the PA until they made it to the majors.

 

[NWinAZ]

Whatever

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Well so much for Blake Snell. MLB really needs to step in somehow.

It's an over pay and if I'm going to over pay for a pitcher it be Corbin Burns

 

[NWinAZ]

It's an over pay and if I'm going to over pay for a pitcher it be Corbin Burns

It is never an overpay when you have an endless budget.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Just seems the MLB and MLBPA needs to do something about the Dodgers, if they don’t I think the MLBPA is going to implode.

MLB needs to close the loop hole of deferring money till player retires.
Teams should be paying up to 85 to 90% of the contract up front and the other 10 to 15% is deferrable at retirement.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

It is never an overpay when you have an endless budget.

It seems they have an endless budget with Ohtani's deferred payments. If that money was on the books per year, they'd still be FA market players but still have the luxury tax to consider and how far they want to go into it.

 

[NWinAZ]

It seems they have an endless budget with Ohtani's deferred payments. If that money was on the books per year, they'd still be FA market players but still have the luxury tax to consider and how far they want to go into it.

Agree, but they don't so spend away. They deferred some of the last two signings as well. Nuts, but allowed.

 

[ulmax]

If dodgers are signing so many.

Pitchers..maybe sasaki will.
Go San Diego..

 

[wazzu31]

MLB needs to close the loop hole of deferring money till player retires.
Teams should be paying up to 85 to 90% of the contract up front and the other 10 to 15% is deferrable at retirement.

It isn’t just the MLB, the MLBPA should be doing that. Their job is protect all members and not to allow bad precedents. Ohtani’s contract should’ve been voided by the union and not sure what they can actually do but Yamamoto’s contract isn’t good for the MLBPA members either.

 

[wazzu31]

Why would the PA want to stop teams from paying out the nose? And with MLB making record profits, why would they want a cap? The days of what is best for baseball are long gone. It ended when free agency began.

Maybe I am wrong on this, but up until a year or so ago the PA had nothing to do with minor leaguers. That is why they weren't fighting for them. It was my understanding the players weren't apart of the PA until they made it to the majors.

They wouldn’t want stop owners from paying out their nose. But the owners aren’t is the problem. The Yankees, Mets and Dodgers won’t want a cap but the rest of the owners would want one. The MLBPA isn’t in it what is best for the sport but its members. Deferring money isn’t good for members, and foreign players who haven’t proved anything making way more money than current members isn’t good either.

I’m not 100% sure on how the whole minor league PA and MLBPA is but this last negotiation, from what I’ve read, is the younger MLBPA guys tried a coup of the MLBPA to put the minor league guys in charge. And 100% that is going to happen when the MLBPA keeps putting all of their focus on the few veterans who make all the money while they keep agreeing to have the younger players make minimal money. Not sure how to exactly fix it but the fact that the PA allows the Dodgers to have what 10 ten times the money into their rotation vs the Mariners is criminal IMO.

Won’t pretend to know how to fix it without a salary cap but something needs to be fixed with the entire payment structure.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Agree, but they don't so spend away. They deferred some of the last two signings as well. Nuts, but allowed.

Not much can be done till they get back to the bargaining table

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

It isn’t just the MLB, the MLBPA should be doing that. Their job is protect all members and not to allow bad precedents. Ohtani’s contract should’ve been voided by the union and not sure what they can actually do but Yamamoto’s contract isn’t good for the MLBPA members either.

MLBPA won't do a thing. As long as players are getting massive deals whether it's while playing or retired is all that matters to them. Their sole job is to make sure players get pay raises. It's up to Manfred and MLB to close the loop hole and put restrictions on deferred payments.

 

[NWinAZ]

They wouldn’t want stop owners from paying out their nose. But the owners aren’t is the problem. The Yankees, Mets and Dodgers won’t want a cap but the rest of the owners would want one. The MLBPA isn’t in it what is best for the sport but its members. Deferring money isn’t good for members, and foreign players who haven’t proved anything making way more money than current members isn’t good either.

Ah you assume the MLB is a democracy. Those three teams and maybe one or two others run the league.

Deferred money doesn't hurt anyone. It still raises wages that agents use to get their guys more money and PA still gets their cut.

I’m not 100% sure on how the whole minor league PA and MLBPA is but this last negotiation, from what I’ve read, is the younger MLBPA guys tried a coup of the MLBPA to put the minor league guys in charge. And 100% that is going to happen when the MLBPA keeps putting all of their focus on the few veterans who make all the money while they keep agreeing to have the younger players make minimal money. Not sure how to exactly fix it but the fact that the PA allows the Dodgers to have what 10 ten times the money into their rotation vs the Mariners is criminal IMO.

My understanding was MiLB guys fought against MLBPA because PA was trying to set rules for them and they aren't part of the union. I could be wrong, but that is what I recall. And after that, they included them in bargaining.

I agree it is 100% screwed up, but as long as profits are recorded breaking and wages are record breaking, who will want to change that. I have said for decades that sports need a third party with equal power representing fans...the paying customers that allow all these sides to make multi-millions.