1. Have something to say? Register Now! and be posting in minutes!

MLB Expansion

Discussion in 'MLB Baseball Forum' started by Mike A. S., Jan 25, 2017.

  1. tabascojet

    tabascojet Non-voting Affiliate

    30,603
    3,200
    293
    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2011
    Location:
    gotham by way of dixie
    Hoopla Bookie:
    $ 33,710


    :wave: aint nothing wrong with montreal......
     



  2. JohnU

    JohnU Aristocratic Hoosier

    8,796
    541
    113
    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2013
    Location:
    Indiana
    Hoopla Bookie:
    $ 1,000


    probably not. I just don't think it's necessary for MLB to try to get them in the league.
     
  3. tabascojet

    tabascojet Non-voting Affiliate

    30,603
    3,200
    293
    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2011
    Location:
    gotham by way of dixie
    Hoopla Bookie:
    $ 33,710


    id like a better product (cough 30 teams 154 games cough)but mlb is too greedy for that.....
     
  4. broncosmitty

    broncosmitty Evolutionary Member

    68,705
    10,897
    1,033
    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2013
    Location:
    Almost Paradise
    Hoopla Bookie:
    $ 16,145


    I do t think Houston has left the roof open 20 times in a season yet.
     
  5. broncosmitty

    broncosmitty Evolutionary Member

    68,705
    10,897
    1,033
    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2013
    Location:
    Almost Paradise
    Hoopla Bookie:
    $ 16,145


    Why would that be a better product?
     
    • Like Like x 1
  6. wazzu31

    wazzu31 I am probably drunk

    11,430
    2,066
    173
    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2013
    Location:
    Sumner
    Hoopla Bookie:
    $ 1,000


    Just because you think it sucks doesn’t mean it doesn’t work. Baseball indoors isn’t terrible if the stadium is nice. The Kingdome > Safeco Field if you cared about actually watching the baseball games. Safeco Field now is the largest hipster bar in the world.

    Personally any city that builds a new stadium and doesn’t put a retractable roof on it should lose their franchise.
     
  7. carson

    carson Death by inches

    1,212
    227
    63
    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2018
    Location:
    Colorado Springs
    Hoopla Bookie:
    $ 1,018


    I know it technically wouldn't be expansion ... but there's no way the Rays are playing in that tin can through 2027. Nashville would be something worth exploring.
     
  8. 78Cyclones

    78Cyclones Well-Known Member

    754
    489
    63
    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2018
    Location:
    Ohio
    Hoopla Bookie:
    $ 1,000


    Not sure if Montreal is a viable option, but I love Le Stade Olympique!

    [​IMG]
     
    • Like Like x 1
  9. The Q

    The Q KFFL's GOAT

    11,407
    1,584
    173
    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2015
    Hoopla Bookie:
    $ 1,000


    Retractable roofs should be mandatory in this day and age.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  10. The Q

    The Q KFFL's GOAT

    11,407
    1,584
    173
    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2015
    Hoopla Bookie:
    $ 1,000


    Retractable roofs would make it easier to start the season a week earlier to give a Few more off days
     
  11. JohnU

    JohnU Aristocratic Hoosier

    8,796
    541
    113
    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2013
    Location:
    Indiana
    Hoopla Bookie:
    $ 1,000


    Just trying to get back on the topic about expansion, Montreal IS the only city where expansion looks good but it's more like a franchise shift that gets them into MLB. Tampa or Oakland are the only two franchises in any trouble, just because of their ballparks. If Oakland builds, they don't need a roof. Their floor plan doesn't include it, if I recall correctly on the drawings.
    Every other market has already built a ballpark, even if it is Triple-A, you are not gonna ask these people to shell out another $500 million for a stadium.
    Portland, possibly could build a ballpark if somebody wanted to move there. Hell, Brooklyn would be my first choice!
    Expansion doesn't make baseball better in any form. Sorry but not everybody should have a major league team.
    Montreal has to build if they get a team. That stadium doesn't work now and it's 40-some years old. Retrofits cost more than new. MLB doesn't need the Montreal market. It's not worth it unless it's a shift.
    I agree that retractable is better than a dome but those things add millions to the cost. It allows fans some flexibility and helps extend the season -- if MLB would use a fuckin' brain and schedule the ballparks into the equation instead of having a Sunday night game in Minnesota on March 30.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  12. rsw626

    rsw626 Well-Known Member

    1,182
    423
    83
    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2016
    Location:
    'twixt the middle of nowhere & the end of the line
    Hoopla Bookie:
    $ 12,250


    That would be cool, but the Yankees and Mets would block that in a heartbeat.

    Not sure why everyone keeps saying Montreal, they couldn't keep the Expos, yeah there were a lot of factors on why they moved, but the never had great attendance. I have friends that live there and they always said that baseball MAY only work of they build a new stadium in a good location, no one wanted to go to the Olympic stadium, but most people in Montreal don't care about baseball, attendance was shit way before Loria took over, and Montreal is and always will be a hockey town. If I were expanding in Canada, I'd go to Vancouver before Montreal.

    San Juan would be cool if the Rays were going to relocate, they wouldn't even have to switch divisions etc, but not Sure PR could or wants to support an MLB team right now.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  13. The Q

    The Q KFFL's GOAT

    11,407
    1,584
    173
    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2015
    Hoopla Bookie:
    $ 1,000


    This is the real downside to MLB's antitrust exemption.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  14. JohnU

    JohnU Aristocratic Hoosier

    8,796
    541
    113
    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2013
    Location:
    Indiana
    Hoopla Bookie:
    $ 1,000


    Modern marketing virtually eliminates the introduction of a 'neighborhood' team and after all these years, building a fan base in Brooklyn is next to impossible. Brooklyn was all right in the days when people took the trolley to the ballpark. Those fans are long gone. Still, it would be interesting, more than another ridiculous attempt to make a baseball team for London or some other European bullshit operation. I'd rather see a team in Brooklyn than in Portland. Hell, they ran their AAA team out of town in favor of a soccer team. Screw Portland.

    Expansion into Latin America isn't even on the table. Thse economies don't really exist. They just have a lot of fans. Puerto Rico is clearly off the table now, with the disasters they have to fix there. Latin islands are in the 3rd world. They can't afford the tickets and for sure can't afford to build the ballparks. The ballparks they have are 50 or 60 years old.

    Vancouver might work but it would be a very small market.

    To be honest, expansion is just a word. There's not much that compels it to happen unless we're just brain-addled about some kind of "even numbers" or some bizarre form of anal geographic rivalries that exist in our minds.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  15. SideSwipe52

    SideSwipe52 Remeber the Oilers Supporting Member Level 1

    458
    66
    28
    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2019
    Location:
    East Region
    Hoopla Bookie:
    $ 1,000


    I see a team relocating to another city, before expansion happens. The Rays need to relocate. Charlotte would be a good choice. I think the city of Oakland will hold on to the A's and build them another stadium.
     
  16. 78Cyclones

    78Cyclones Well-Known Member

    754
    489
    63
    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2018
    Location:
    Ohio
    Hoopla Bookie:
    $ 1,000


    If anything, baseball needs to contract, not expand. As mentioned by others, let's just find a nice home for the Rays.
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  17. The Q

    The Q KFFL's GOAT

    11,407
    1,584
    173
    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2015
    Hoopla Bookie:
    $ 1,000


    The marlins and Rockies only exist because of collusion law suit expenses.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  18. BritishDolfan

    BritishDolfan Well-Known Member

    4,010
    536
    113
    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2012
    Location:
    Hucknall, Nottinghamshire, England
    Hoopla Bookie:
    $ 1,000


    If there is expansion then it really needs to be to 32 teams. Montreal would, presumably, be one. The other would have to be somewhere like Charlotte. I can't see them going to Vegas, although you never know I guess.
     
  19. WindyCityCoug

    WindyCityCoug Fat Stacks Bitches

    1,366
    1,047
    173
    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2016
    Location:
    Chi- Raq
    Hoopla Bookie:
    $ 1,000



    Montreal (with new stadium) would do A LOT BETTER than Miami and Tampa, easily.

    every spring, at end of spring training final week, they play those 2 or 3 games, it is TOR vs NL someone exhibition series, during the final week after spring breaks, and they been selling Out all those games for past 7 years or so.

    Montreal would do fine with a great stadium. Part of their previous Expo issue and move was due to the old stadium. There is baseball love and fandom in Quebec.

    and, MLB knows an awesome TOR/ MONT rivalry would be great for TOR and the AL East. So Tampa would make the most sense for a move....
     
  20. The Q

    The Q KFFL's GOAT

    11,407
    1,584
    173
    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2015
    Hoopla Bookie:
    $ 1,000


    Makes sense to me. Send them to the nl east.