Mississippi State Football is a joke

[ericd7633]

We're going to use the last 7 years, since that's how long he's been there.

39th in winning %
1 win over a ranked team
And there are more shit teams I forgot to add in addition to the earlier list:
Rice: 1-0
Arkansas: 4 wins (2 of them when Arkansas lost 8 and 9 games, respectively)
Bowling Green: 1-0

He has accomplished next to nothing, but it looks nice because he beats up bottom barrel teams left and right. Wow, I'm so impressed.

And that's dumb because I said he's turned them into a top 30 program, which he has, and I guess you're finally agreeing with me since you want to use all 7 of his years all the sudden. Because it makes total sense to count that first year when he took over a program that won 35% of it's games the previous 5 seasons. I guess that's where you have to turn when over the last 6 years, literally every stat/ranking has them as a top 30 program.

And again he has more than 1 win over a ranked team.

 

[DHoey]

And that's dumb because I said he's turned them into a top 30 program, which he has, and I guess you're finally agreeing with me since you want to use all 7 of his years all the sudden. Because it makes total sense to count that first year when he took over a program that won 35% of it's games the previous 5 seasons. I guess that's where you have to turn when over the last 6 years, literally every stat/ranking has them as a top 30 program.

And again he has more than 1 win over a ranked team.

What's dumb is ranking "top programs" by winning percentage.

 

[4down20]

Why should you get credit for playing a difficult schedule, if you lose all your difficult games?

Why shouldn't you?

 

[ericd7633]

What's dumb is ranking "top programs" by winning percentage.

Then use other rankings.

Last 6 years(which is what I've claimed all along)

Massey Composite Average Ranking - 26.16
Sagarin Average Rank - 24.3
Anderson & Hester Average Rank - 28.6
Colley Matrix Average Rank - 29.3

Two AP top 15 finishes and another top 30 AP finish.

 

[DHoey]

Why shouldn't you?

In the words of the late Denny Green because "you play to win the game"

 

[4down20]

In the words of the late Denny Green because "you play to win the game"

So they should be Iowa? Win a ton of games with the same crappy team just because you play an easy schedule?

 

[theboardref]

They suggest that he's had a decent last few years. That doesn't make you a top program. If he can keep this momentum up and actually beat anyone worth a damn, it'll mean something. When you look at the winning % teams over the last 4 years, there are a lot of teams behind them that are still better programs, such as:

USC
Florida
North Carolina
Iowa
michigan
Washington
Penn State
Auburn
Texas
Tennessee

These are all better programs than Mississippi State. They've literally accomplished nothing and beaten nobody of merit. You mention their awesome record under Mullen? Let's look at the teams they've beaten:

UAB: 3-0
Alcorn State: 2-0
Jackson St: 2-0
Kentucky: 7-0
Louisiana Tech: 2-0
Mid Tennessee St: 2-0
Northwestern St: 1-0
South Alabama: 2-0
Southern Miss: 2-0
Tennessee-Martin: 2-0
Troy: 3-0
Vanderbilt: 2-0
Wake Forest: 1-0

These shit teams make up 31 of the 55 games Mullen has won at Miss St. That's not anything special.

On vacation, no laptop and on a cell, so thanks. of those 24 remaining games I'd guess maybe 10 are against teams who ended with .500 or better records.

 

[Rebel]

Three pages for a Mississippi State thread? MSU fansites don't even pull these numbers unless it's about us cheetin baresharkrebs.

 

[Gohogs14]

During their SEC takeover they showed a game from last season against Arkansas, and now feel that this mediocre, unimpactful game which has no bearing on National or Conference Title implications needs a 30 miniute in depth walk through. This is featuring player interviews. Please don't fire Dan Mullens, he is one of two coaches I enjoy seeing every year. Need moar cowbell to make anyone recognize we have football!

Did we get the field goal blocked again?

 

[OregonDucks]

They've managed to severely ruffle the feathers of an LSU fan.

They must be doing something right.

 

[TexasExes98]

I'm pretty sure there are several coaches out there who would have a high winning percentage when 99% of your victories are against unranked teams....

 

[theboardref]

They've managed to severely ruffle the feathers of an LSU fan.

They must be doing something right.

Not ruffled, they are just embarrassingly pitiful. That 5 minute dance clip though was impressive.

 

[ralphiewvu]

In the words of the late Denny Green because "you play to win the game"

I think you mean this guy...........



HELLO??????

 

[Cowboyinexile]

Dude, he ain't no bitch.

He tore is left ACL, Came back, then tore his right ACL, came back and won the friggin Heisman.

Who does that?
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People who sell air conditioners.

 

[theboardref]

I think you mean this guy...........

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HELLO??????

True, Green was,"They were who we thought they were!"

 

[Across The Field]

And that's dumb because I said he's turned them into a top 30 program, which he has, and I guess you're finally agreeing with me since you want to use all 7 of his years all the sudden. Because it makes total sense to count that first year when he took over a program that won 35% of it's games the previous 5 seasons. I guess that's where you have to turn when over the last 6 years, literally every stat/ranking has them as a top 30 program.

And again he has more than 1 win over a ranked team.

It's not dumb because he was still the coach then, so he's accountable for those results. And how many ranked wins does he have then? You've kept saying that's wrong but fail to correct it. Is it 2? Still pathetic. I, along with everyone else in this thread, am not impressed with beating a bunch of nobodies and losing to basically every good team you face. That's not amazing. What Iowa has done over the last 7 years is more amazing, considering the fact that the recruiting for them is pretty much nil since they're in the middle of a cornfield that no top recruit would normally ever consider. Yet, in the last 7 years, they have four seasons of 8+ wins, 2 seasons of 11+ wins, a BCS bowl win (over GT, who Miss St cannot beat), and they've beaten multiple teams that have finished the year ranked, which Miss St cannot claim despite having plenty of opportunities to do so. So yes, Iowa is a better program currently.

 

[Across The Field]

Why shouldn't you?

Because anyone can do what Miss St has done. Mullen has improved them, but they're not a top 30 program just because he consistently beats Kentucky and barely faces Florida/Georgia, hardly ever beats any good teams in the SECW, and has been gifted with one of the most pathetic OOC slates any P5 team has played in his tenure as a head coach.

 

[ericd7633]

It's not dumb because he was still the coach then, so he's accountable for those results. And how many ranked wins does he have then? You've kept saying that's wrong but fail to correct it. Is it 2? Still pathetic. I, along with everyone else in this thread, am not impressed with beating a bunch of nobodies and losing to basically every good team you face. That's not amazing. What Iowa has done over the last 7 years is more amazing, considering the fact that the recruiting for them is pretty much nil since they're in the middle of a cornfield that no top recruit would normally ever consider. Yet, in the last 7 years, they have four seasons of 8+ wins, 2 seasons of 11+ wins, a BCS bowl win (over GT, who Miss St cannot beat), and they've beaten multiple teams that have finished the year ranked, which Miss St cannot claim despite having plenty of opportunities to do so. So yes, Iowa is a better program currently.

He's at fucking Mississippi State for christ sakes. Take away his time there and they are 90th in all-time in winning %. The 7 years prior to him taking over, Mississippi State won 31% of their games, which was tied for 103rd. Even including his 7th year, he has them in the top 40 in winning %, which is still pretty impressive considering they are historically the WORST program in the SEC. Do you think Mississippi State is some good program or something? If Indiana ever strung together a run like Mississippi State has, I'm sure you'd be saying how amazing that feat is.

And again, he has turned them into a top 30 program.

Last 6 years(which is what I've claimed all along)

Massey Composite Average Ranking - 26.16
Sagarin Average Rank - 24.3
Anderson & Hester Average Rank - 28.6
Colley Matrix Average Rank - 29.3

Two AP top 15 finishes and another top 30 AP finish.

And yes, if you're going to hold it against Mullen for taking over the WORST program in the SEC and not being able to win in year one, then yes the last 7 years Iowa has been statistically a better program, because Iowa had their best season in 2009 under Ferentz. Since 2010 and beyond Mississippi State has been better(which was my point all along). It's similar to saying Briles turned Baylor into a top 15 program, because he has, even though his overall results don't suggest Baylor is a top 15 program over his entire tenure because he took over a complete dumpster fire.

 

[Across The Field]

He's at fucking Mississippi State for christ sakes. Take away his time there and they are 90th in all-time in winning %. The 7 years prior to him taking over, Mississippi State won 31% of their games, which was tied for 103rd. Even including his 7th year, he has them in the top 40 in winning %, which is still pretty impressive considering they are historically the WORST program in the SEC. Do you think Mississippi State is some good program or something? If Indiana ever strung together a run like Mississippi State has, I'm sure you'd be saying how amazing that feat is.

And again, he has turned them into a top 30 program.

Last 6 years(which is what I've claimed all along)

Massey Composite Average Ranking - 26.16
Sagarin Average Rank - 24.3
Anderson & Hester Average Rank - 28.6
Colley Matrix Average Rank - 29.3

Two AP top 15 finishes and another top 30 AP finish.

And yes, if you're going to hold it against Mullen for taking over the WORST program in the SEC and not being able to win in year one, then yes the last 7 years Iowa has been statistically a better program, because Iowa had their best season in 2009 under Ferentz. Since 2010 and beyond Mississippi State has been better(which was my point all along). It's similar to saying Briles turned Baylor into a top 15 program, because he has, even though his overall results don't suggest Baylor is a top 15 program over his entire tenure because he took over a complete dumpster fire.

What Briles did at Baylor was exponentially more impressive than what Mullens has done because Baylor was arguably the worst program in all of college football and they also have actual academic standards. Miss St. is about the same as an intermediate high school in B1G country. That's great that Miss St. was so bad and now they're not, but it doesn't mean they're a top 30 program. Again, they have beaten nobody of value. You still haven't answered my question about how many ranked teams they've beaten.

And since when does being ranked matter? You've fought me numerous times on the value of the B1G despite having more ranked teams than any other conference, yet now when it's an SEC team, it's an enormous feather in their cap? You're proving me right when I always say you have an anti-B1G bias with this argument, you know. Putting together a winner at Iowa or Northwestern is much harder than it is at Miss St, so I'd say the jobs Ferentz and Fitzgerald have done are far better than Mullens. He hasn't beaten anyone at all! They're a paper tiger who has managed to figure out how to beat shitty teams. Have you honestly looked at their OOC?? It's absurdly pathetic. He's made Miss St. into a decent program that was once shitty. A top 30 program that only beats shitty teams though? Nope.

 

[ericd7633]

What Briles did at Baylor was exponentially more impressive than what Mullens has done because Baylor was arguably the worst program in all of college football and they also have actual academic standards. Miss St. is about the same as an intermediate high school in B1G country. That's great that Miss St. was so bad and now they're not, but it doesn't mean they're a top 30 program. Again, they have beaten nobody of value. You still haven't answered my question about how many ranked teams they've beaten.

And since when does being ranked matter? You've fought me numerous times on the value of the B1G despite having more ranked teams than any other conference, yet now when it's an SEC team, it's an enormous feather in their cap? You're proving me right when I always say you have an anti-B1G bias with this argument, you know. Putting together a winner at Iowa or Northwestern is much harder than it is at Miss St, so I'd say the jobs Ferentz and Fitzgerald have done are far better than Mullens. He hasn't beaten anyone at all! They're a paper tiger who has managed to figure out how to beat shitty teams. Have you honestly looked at their OOC?? It's absurdly pathetic. He's made Miss St. into a decent program that was once shitty. A top 30 program that only beats shitty teams though? Nope.

I've said they've beaten more than 1 ranked team, which is fact. You can look it up if you want. And yes, obviously what Briles did was more impressive than Mullen, I would never dispute that.

And being ranked does matter, never disputed that. And Ferentz and Fitzgerald have done amazing work at their schools. Fitzgerald is a great coach. Fitzgerald has turned them into a top 50 program, which again is saying something since it's Northwestern, that is a hell of a job.

And in regards to Mississippi State:

Last 6 years(which is what I've claimed all along)

Massey Composite Average Ranking - 26.16
Sagarin Average Rank - 24.3
Anderson & Hester Average Rank - 28.6
Colley Matrix Average Rank - 29.3

Two AP top 15 finishes and another top 30 AP finish.

If YOU want to look at his entirety at Mississippi State, that's fine, then they aren't a top 30 program, but that isn't what I've been saying at all.