We pay him that much because that's how much other teams, especially in the NFL, would pay him. And we paid him that much to turn around the program; which he has done.
I see no difference between giving free vacations to players than giving free cars or free tattoos.
Thanks for the laugh.
One is an educational experience, something many of those players will never have the opportunity to do outside of college, and the others are just gifts. My brother, who wrote for the Michigan daily while at UM, got given a similar experience during college. Some donor paid for writers for school newspapers around the country to take a tour of Europe for like 4 weeks as part of a study abroad program. It's not like they're getting trips to all inclusive resorts in Cancun.
He was paid to come here to do more than just beat OSU. The first step was winning more than 5-8 games a year.He's turned the program around? Only on your video game system. How can you say he's turned things around when he's won nothing, has a losing record vs. Ohio State & is only 2-2 vs. Michigan State? And it was just 2 years ago that he went 0-5 vs. teams that finished the regular season .500.
He's the only meeeechegan coach to start his coaching career 0-4 vs. the Buckeyes. And last year Hiz Boyz gave up an all time worst 62 points in Columbus.
He's turned things around.
Yeah, “educational experience”. Are the classes designed by UNC?
So you argument is that there's no educational experience by taking kids, many of which are from super poor areas/families, and showing them things like the Colosseum, visiting the Vatican, and all sorts of other museum/sites in Rome is not educational at all? A study abroad program doesn't mean there's credits assigned to it, they can't but don't require it. If there's educational value, I don't know how you argue against it?
I’m saying that just going on a sight seeing vacation isn’t educational. You can twist it anyway you like but if Ohio State sent it’s players to Cancun and they went sight seeing there, you would be saying how it’s cheating.
Honestly, if the trip was actually OSU visiting sites like the pyramids in Tulum, then I wouldn't have an issue with it. If they're just sitting on a beach for 7 days, then it might switch my opinion of it all. But from what I've seen of our trips, a vast majority of the time they are using the trip to really show these kids stuff that's educational. Which I think is great. Again, most of these kids won't get NFL money and most of them would probably have no other chance to see this kind of stuff in their lifetime.
...
Damn you guys have sunk to pretty low expectations.
Winning games is low expectations? We weren't winning games, any games, before he got here. We were losing to Toledo and Rutgers. RUTGERS. So yeah, I'm pretty happy that in the last 4 seasons I've watched as many ten win seasons as the previous 12, spanning 3 different coaches.
I'm not unhappy with it at this point. Of course we want more but suggesting his time here has been a failure is kinda dumb.
It hasn’t been successful
