Michigan adds to coaching staff

[4down20]

Sure about that?

February 2016: Frustrated Alabama recruit decommits due to grayshirt request

Paul Myerberg of USA Today:

Schools use the grayshirt to add recruits without sacrificing scholarship numbers. Though a grayshirt graduates at the same time as other prospects, delaying the player’s enrollment allows a program to count that scholarship offer toward the following season’s total — making the grayshirt a helpful tool for those programs who tend to over-sign recruits.

But [Riley] Cole noted that the late date of Alabama’s asking him to sit out a semester — he said it occurred just a few days before signing day — wasn’t going to fly, hence his decision to move on to another option.

Yes, I'm sure about that since it's exactly what your article says. He chose not to take it.

And that article was bullshit anyway as I remember.

 

[ellupo]

It's new in terms of people crying about Alabama.

And I don't see where it's says everyone is being offered one. He is saying all schools will offer them.

At any rate, it doesn't mean shit. I've never heard of anyone actually having their scholarships pulled, except for 5th year seniors who have already graduated. Kids transfer when they get passed on the depth chart, sometimes 4 games into a season apparently.

If its a 5th year senior the coach held up his end and should never be an issue. Its those that are not 5th year that are the discussion.

 

[umichgradfan]

Kids take greyshirts by choice. It's not like they had their offers pulled right before signing day or anything.

This is what you said. The article directly contradicts this statement.

 

[4down20]

If its a 5th year senior the coach held up his end and should never be an issue. Its those that are not 5th year that are the discussion.

None of it is an issue for me. Anyone that is hurt and unable to play gets a medical. Anyone else is able to continue their education at other schools.

Meanwhile, the number of scholarships available are maxed out, and another kid will take their spot, so it gives better opportunities to more people.

If people are really so worried about giving kids opportunity and such, they should just not limit scholarships at all. Then they can just sit on the bench and even more kids in the country will get scholarships.

 

[umichgradfan]

If its a 5th year senior the coach held up his end and should never be an issue. Its those that are not 5th year that are the discussion.

Well, so far, all of Michigan's transfers have been GRADUATE transfers.

 

[4down20]

This is what you said. The article directly contradicts this statement.

A delayed enrollment is not having an offer pulled. That kid was pretty stupid in the end because he would have been on the team that summer anyway and we ended up giving a walkon a scholarship. I think he ended up at UAB or something like that.

Telling the kid you don't want them at all, the way Harbaugh did, is pulling an offer.

 

[umichgradfan]

A delayed enrollment is not having an offer pulled. That kid was pretty stupid in the end because he would have been on the team that summer anyway and we ended up giving a walkon a scholarship. I think he ended up at UAB or something like that.

Telling the kid you don't want them at all, the way Harbaugh did, is pulling an offer.

But, of course, we were talking about offering a grayshirt a few days before signing day, which you declared Alabama did not do.

 

[4down20]

But, of course, we were talking about offering a grayshirt a few days before signing day, which you declared Alabama did not do.

It was known to him long before then as a possibility.

He ended up at South Alabama.

 

[umichgradfan]

It was known to him long before then as a possibility.

He ended up at South Alabama.

Not according to him (or the article).

 

[4down20]

Not according to the one article that doesn't have any follow up where the kids dad was talked too.

 

[4down20]

Actually, it wasn't even offered to him officially, they were trying to get his temperature on taking one and he flipped out.

Riley Cole's father tells radio station Nick Saban wasn't reason for son's decommitment from Alabama

But please tell me where any of this is forcing the kid who went to another school to take a greyshirt.

 

[umichgradfan]

Puh-lease, let's not pretend Alabama has not done this to recruits or that Saban doesn't use other "tools" at his disposal to get rid of players taking up space on his roster. Just stop.

 

[4down20]

Puh-lease, let's not pretend Alabama has not done this to recruits or that Saban doesn't use other "tools" at his disposal to get rid of players taking up space on his roster. Just stop.

According to Michigan fans, he does not.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

I just want to watch the double standards and hypocrisy.

There won't be any double standard. UM's medical hardships will be just as legit as Bama's.

 

[umichgradfan]

According to Michigan fans, he does not.

What does this have to do with Michigan fans? I'm willing to stipulate that Jim Harbaugh also uses all the "tools" at his disposal--as does every other major college football coach, @ellupo. I personally don't like such practices. Saban is not "holier than thou." Stop trying to pretend he is.

 

[7Samurai13]

Well, so far, all of Michigan's transfers have been GRADUATE transfers.

You may want to educate yourself of Ondre Pipkins. A former Michigan player who Harbaugh tried to force a medical hardship on who is currently a Texas Tech junior.

 

[umichgradfan]

You may want to educate yourself of Ondre Pipkins. A former Michigan player who Harbaugh tried to force a medical hardship on who is currently a Texas Tech junior.

I was referring to this year. Mea culpa.

 

[7Samurai13]

I was referring to this year. Mea culpa.

My bad

 

[umichgradfan]

My bad

You just couldn't resist being snarky even when current events at Michigan State suggest it might not be a good idea.

 

[7Samurai13]

You just couldn't resist being snarky even when current events at Michigan State suggest it might not be a good idea.

No, I couldn't resist being snarky. But that picture is me being snarky at myself for wandering into a conversation I wasn't a part of. You can imagine the shit I put my wife through because I am not any different in real life.