Meyer is getting screwed

[SlinkyRedfoot]

I just looked at those forms that were posted. It appears the one that was dated 10/25/2015 was from the day of the investigation & the one dated 10/26/2015 was from the follow-up investigation the next day.

It appears that the officer started to fill out an arrest form, then changed his mind & crossed out the first few lines of the form & didn't fill out the rest. This tells me that one of two things occurred:

1) Either they had come to possibly arrest Zach, but the situation had calmed down & they felt there was no need to make an arrest; or,

2) The officer was just making his follow-up visit & accidentally grabbed the wrong form, so he marked through the lines he had begun to fill out & didn't complete the rest of the form.

This seems to confirm that no arrest was made on either the 25th or the 26th, and may actually explain Meyer's perceived faux pas during Big 10 Media Day.

Police departments tend to number their reports. The officer probably didn't want to turn in an out-of-sequence report at a later date or have to explain a missing report, so he likely turned it in as-is & gave a verbal explanation for doing so. That would also explain the police chief's statement that if such a report existed, it was a mistake.

^Urban Meyer ball washer^

Did I do that right, @Red_Alert?

 

[B_dub]

Shenanigans.

Cut that out meow!

 

[Across The Field]

I know one thing. You're tinkling in your tighty whities hoping that McMurphy doesn't.

I care a fraction of a fraction as much as you do, bud

 

[Red_Alert]

^Urban Meyer ball washer^

Did I do that right, @Red_Alert?

No. I would have added....

3) Someone from OSU intervened and influenced the outcome.

 

[ralphiewvu]

I care a fraction of a fraction as much as you do, bud

HahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhA

 

[Across The Field]

Here is the best explanation I could find for you — it takes quotes from elevenwarriors, so you know it isn’t biased.

On the Nov. 5th report — they listed his actions as a misdemeanor assault and menacing. They checked the box for ‘arrested’. Hence the reason the Police Chief talked about human error.

On July 24, the PPD released a report and the charges were listed as domestic violence and felonious assault, both felonies. And no box was checked for arrested or not.

Powell is only releasing the 24th copy because under Ohio law passed in 2016, they cannot release the rest.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.re...ell_police_chief_explains_changes_in_offense/

Then how does 11W have a copy from 2015 that also doesn't say he was arrested? That's two publicly available reports saying he wasn't arrested, 0 publicly available reports saying he was. Until the report comes out saying Smith was arrested, there is absolutely no reason to believe McMurphy unless you have a bias against OSU and just really want him to be not lying.

 

[Across The Field]

This is not directly related to the discussion, but has some tangential interest IMO.
Zach Smith was arrested by the Dublin, Ohio police in 2013 for
operating a vehicle while intoxicated. The details, including the police report can be found here:
Former OSU assistant coach Zach Smith arrested for drunken driving in 2013

Here are some points I found interesting:
-Zach lied to the officer, saying he had not been drinking. He later admitted to the officer that he had been drinking.
That suggests a willingness to lie to the police to avoid charges. Its not a big deal but should be kept in mind when assessing the truthfulness of the statements made to the Powell police by Zach & Courtney.

-Zach refused a breathalyzer test. He was found guilty April 16, 2013 of physical control, a first-degree misdemeanor, in Dublin Mayor’s Court. The operating a vehicle while intoxicated charge was amended and the speeding charge dismissed.
A judge sentenced Mr. Smith to a $375 fine, suspended a three-day jail term, and license suspension for 180 days. Mr. Smith was granted limited driving privileges and completed a 72-hour driver intervention program.
This is strange in my experience. Lying to the police about drinking, then admitting drinking, then refusing a breathalyzer makes for a slam-dunk OVI conviction. The amending of the OVI charge and the dropping of the speeding charge is surprising under these circumstances IMO. I speak here from actual experiences with family and friends in Ohio. Maybe Dublin police are easier on drunk driving than other departments?

Lifelong tOSU fan.

When you've got a 6-figure salary, you can afford a damn good lawyer. My best friend got an OVI where he DID blow dropped down to reckless driving, but he paid out the ass for his attorney, and this was when he was 24, so he wasn't making anywhere near what Smith is.

 

[Across The Field]

Yes. Fully and completely. Your gross mischaracterization aside, I for sure buy he saw a report with that checked more then he lied or fabricated something. Because bias.

This is a much more likely reason. Nothing whatsoever would suggest "logically" that McMurphy saw this report, considering he refuses to produce it and not a single human being alive has been able to vouch for its existence in 3 weeks of reporting.

 

[Across The Field]

I didn't ignore it, it didn't need another answer because I've already given you more than one answer to it.

First I asked you which real authority has questioned him or his report that he didn't respond to. You must answer that to have something because trying to use the firestorm of disgruntled OSU fans is a non starter. He simply doesn't care about you. At all. Until you show where REAL media is questioning it, it's an invalid question. Period.

Second, I gave you several maybe type things about it. Remember me saying maybe he asked not to make it public. Maybe he was shown it, but not given a physical copy, maybe he's waiting until after the report, etc.

The lack of sharing that doc in no way is proof it didn't exist. The chief of police could have pushed him to release it by claiming it doesn't exist. He didn't. There is no mainstream media questioning it or putting him in a place to do so.

Dude, you've got to be kidding. Anytime a legitimate reporter makes an edit to a report they published, they publish reasoning. He only did this because of the backlash he got for making the edit and not even noting it at first.

Secondly I remember you saying "maybe" to a bunch of shit like you just did, but maybe means nothing. You're going to every possible length to give him the benefit of the doubt. Sitting here coming up with "maybe" scenarios shows that you just want anything at all to happen to give him credibility even though, so far, nothing exists.

Thirdly, you're an idiot if you think the Chief of Police is going to go out of his way to start a pissing match with a Facebook reporter. He has bigger fish to fry. At this point, his department is not being accused of any sort of wrong-doing, so why would he waste his time?

 

[Red_Alert]

I care a fraction of a fraction as much as you do, bud

You damn well do care.

If you don't think big time institutions like OSU (et al) have influence on local governments, courts, and police depts, you're naive as they come.

You care enough to hope that didn't happen here. Although it wouldn't surprise anyone not naive, it would be a bombshell. The way that chief is squirming around stuff leads to that being a possibility.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Then how does 11W have a copy from 2015 that also doesn't say he was arrested? That's two publicly available reports saying he wasn't arrested, 0 publicly available reports saying he was. Until the report comes out saying Smith was arrested, there is absolutely no reason to believe McMurphy unless you have a bias against OSU and just really want him to be not lying.

Maybe I misread the article, but the quotes were taken from eleven warriors. It states one had arrested checked from November. Then the July edit said nothing was checked. I’d be more interested in why the charges went from misdemeanors to felonies though?!?

As stated earlier though — it is arguing semantics, as Meyer knew exactly what he was being questioned about in regards to the 2015 incident and even admitted it in his response online.

 

[Red_Alert]

Then how does 11W have a copy from 2015 that also doesn't say he was arrested? That's two publicly available reports saying he wasn't arrested, 0 publicly available reports saying he was. Until the report comes out saying Smith was arrested, there is absolutely no reason to believe McMurphy unless you have a bias against OSU and just really want him to be not lying.

Chief says not all reports have been released.

 

[Across The Field]

You damn well do care.

If you don't think big time institutions like OSU (et al) have influence on local governments, courts, and police depts, you're naive as they come.

You care enough to hope that didn't happen here. Although it wouldn't surprise anyone not naive, it would be a bombshell. The way that chief is squirming around stuff leads to that being a possibility.

LOL you are so desperate for a "bombshell" you're already trying to fabricate a controversy that doesn't exist. What a drama queen.

 

[Across The Field]

Chief says not all reports have been released.

Yes...due to the law. We've been over this.

 

[Across The Field]

Maybe I misread the article, but the quotes were taken from eleven warriors. It states one had arrested checked from November. Then the July edit said nothing was checked. I’d be more interested in why the charges went from misdemeanors to felonies though?!?

As stated earlier though — it is arguing semantics, as Meyer knew exactly what he was being questioned about in regards to the 2015 incident and even admitted it in his response online.

It had "investigation pending" checked, not "arrested". No such report exists stating he was arrested.

 

[Red_Alert]

When you've got a 6-figure salary, you can afford a damn good lawyer. My best friend got an OVI where he DID blow dropped down to reckless driving, but he paid out the ass for his attorney, and this was when he was 24, so he wasn't making anywhere near what Smith is.

So the OSU blogs had the victim pegged with 3 DUI's and being let go (escorted home), when it was actually Zach Smith with the drunken driving issue. lulz

 

[PEOPLESCHICKEN]

Dude. You missed out. That performance was out of this world, and on a beautiful night, under the stars.

No I was there. I was sitting with the other musicians. I have an amazing ability to blend in. Here I am with the Beatles.

 

[Red_Alert]

Distract, Discredit, and Attack the victim.

 

[PEOPLESCHICKEN]

Dude. You missed out. That performance was out of this world, and on a beautiful night, under the stars.

Seriously, glad it was a great show. Did the kids like it?

 

[Red_Alert]

Yes...due to the law. We've been over this.

So knowing that "not all reports have been released", you don't think it's possible a report has the 'Arrest' box checked?