Meyer is getting screwed

[trojanfan12]

Here is what confuses me, she got the PPO but the guy was never arrested. I dont get that at all since he must have done something to be in 'clear and imminent danger'.

An arrest isn't required, nor does any actual violence have to have occurred for her to get a PPO.

All that is required is for her to convey to the judge that she is afraid that he will do something. Restraining orders and PPO's are easy to get. Judges always err on the side of caution with those because if the guy actually does something, they don't want to be the judge that didn't issue the order of protection.

 

[Red_Alert]

No rally for Zach Smith by these OSU fans who keep calling Courtney a crazy drunk liar who was out to bring down Zach and Urbs.
The reporter is a liar trying to make a name for himself.

Not only no rally for an innocent man losing his livelihood, where "There is no proof he abused her", said fans are calling Zach Smith a POS.

 

[Red_Alert]

Yeah I did

No you didn't, you gutless coward.

Here I'll get you started.....Zach Smith is a POS because...

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[Across The Field]

Look I agree it's their marriage and if shes so fucked up she wants to stay with the guy for six years just to get back at him well go for it. But he's got a job where pubic perception is a big part of it. he's on a coaching staff and his behavior makes Urban look bad because when people started digging they found a shady past. It's not Urbans job to police his coaches marriages but once this kinda stuff keeps happening he should have told Smith the next time cops have to go to your house thats it. Thats talk should have taken place in 2015

It actually did, and Smith admitted it in his interview with ESPN. Urban told him flat out "I swear to God - If I find out you did actually hit her, you're done, you're fired". Smith told him they'd conduct the investigation and nothing would come from it because he wasn't guilty, and evidently that's what happened.

 

[Across The Field]

No you didn't, you gutless coward.

Here I'll get you started.....Zach Smith is a POS because...

1)
2)
3)

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You are maaaaaad for some reason

 

[Red_Alert]

Look I agree it's their marriage and if shes so fucked up she wants to stay with the guy for six years just to get back at him well go for it. But he's got a job where pubic perception is a big part of it. he's on a coaching staff and his behavior makes Urban look bad because when people started digging they found a shady past. It's not Urbans job to police his coaches marriages but once this kinda stuff keeps happening he should have told Smith the next time cops have to go to your house thats it. Thats talk should have taken place in 2015

Not when it's your mentor's grandson and close family friend that you treat like your very son.

 

[ericd7633]

I will say that you're right about media being easily manipulated to an extent, but if that actually turns out to be the case here and what came out about her yesterday is 100% true, McMurphy cannot work again. It's a bad look considering he was fired last year and hasn't really worked since. He calls himself an investigative journalist, and he's already messed up once pretty badly with this "investigation", not to mention the fact that he published an article by only getting one person's side even though there were evidently dozens of people involved. I just can't respect him after that, and if this was all a scheme by her, he has to be done.

He was let go during the massive layoffs of 2017 at ESPN. He's still under contract so because of that he's not contractually obligated to work anywhere else. Once his contract expires he's going to work for Stadium.

 

[socaljim242]

It actually did, and Smith admitted it in his interview with ESPN. Urban told him flat out "I swear to God - If I find out you did actually hit her, you're done, you're fired". Smith told him they'd conduct the investigation and nothing would come from it because he wasn't guilty, and evidently that's what happened.

Abuse is not just hitting her. He could have shoved or pushed her or harassed her all day and still come to work and say I never hit her. I'm sorry but this is all CYA stuff. Urban should have let him go years ago. He shouldn't be fired but he fucked up keeping the guy.
Telling him the next time the cops go to your house for any reason you're done is not the same as "If I find out you hit her".

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Yeah have you found any evidence of that yet? Any proof outside of McMurphy's shoddy report? Because according to the Powell PD in a phone call with Zach Smith that was played yesterday on 105.7 in Columbus, he was told there wasn't one.

The personal protection order is also being challenged right now because Zach is basically refuting everything Courtney told the judge about his behavior, and that investigation is still pending.

Based on the story that came out yesterday from the two mothers, I think you need to take a step back from your thoughts on the subject because it's looking more and more like you're basing your opinions on lies.

Let me ask you this — if this was all lies. What does Courtney gain out of everyone going thru this with a fine toothed comb? What does she gain?

It has already been stated — she’s received no financial incentives for the story. So why would she go thru with this if it is all lies? Does she want to be publically humiliated by the entire world?

It makes no sense at all. And I have zero doubt a Columbus radio station is going to do everything they can to disprove it, just like the moronic fans who hold a rally outside the football stadium for Meyer.

So it brings me back to my question — if you were making up a domestic violence story. Would you subject yourself to the most thorough investigation possible for free? Would you drag it on for 10 years? Would you drag it on 4 years after you filed for divorce?

 

[Across The Field]

He was let go during the massive layoffs of 2017 at ESPN. He's still under contract so because of that he's not contractually obligated to work anywhere else. Once his contract expires he's going to work for Stadium.

Yeah I'd heard he was still getting a paycheck. What's Stadium though?

 

[Red_Alert]

"We're going to fire an innocent man (but call him a POS anyway) to protect Urbs. Other than the Meyer's themselves, nobody gives a shit about throwing the WR coach under the bus. Maybe even the AD. We need to fire someone to make this go away. Anybody but Urbs" - buckeye fan

 

[socaljim242]

Let me ask you this — if this was all lies. What does Courtney gain out of everyone going thru this with a fine toothed comb? What does she gain?

It has already been stated — she’s received no financial incentives for the story. So why would she go thru with this if it is all lies? Does she want to be publically humiliated by the entire world?

It makes no sense at all. And I have zero doubt a Columbus radio station is going to do everything they can to disprove it, just like the moronic fans who hold a rally outside the football stadium for Meyer.

So it brings me back to my question — if you were making up a domestic violence story. Would you subject yourself to the most thorough investigation possible for free? Would you drag it on for 10 years? Would you drag it on 4 years after you filed for divorce?

Its a crazy situation . Most women wouldn't want their ex to lose their job because thats how they get child support. The whole thing is nuts.

 

[Across The Field]

Abuse is not just hitting her. He could have shoved or pushed her or harassed her all day and still come to work and say I never hit her. I'm sorry but this is all CYA stuff. Urban should have let him go years ago. He shouldn't be fired but he fucked up keeping the guy.
Telling him the next time the cops go to your house for any reason you're done is not the same as "If I find out you hit her".

And you can't just fire someone because they "could have..." without any evidence. If I had a batshit crazy wife who accused me of abuse when I didn't do anything and it resulted in me losing job, I'd be finding an attorney that second to take my wrongful termination suit.

And again, if the report that came out yesterday has any truth to it, there's absolutely no reason at all to say Meyer should've fired him then. If you start a trend where men can be fired if there's simply an allegation of abuse, it sets a pretty terrifying precedent.

 

[Across The Field]

Let me ask you this — if this was all lies. What does Courtney gain out of everyone going thru this with a fine toothed comb? What does she gain?

It has already been stated — she’s received no financial incentives for the story. So why would she go thru with this if it is all lies? Does she want to be publically humiliated by the entire world?

It makes no sense at all. And I have zero doubt a Columbus radio station is going to do everything they can to disprove it, just like the moronic fans who hold a rally outside the football stadium for Meyer.

So it brings me back to my question — if you were making up a domestic violence story. Would you subject yourself to the most thorough investigation possible for free? Would you drag it on for 10 years? Would you drag it on 4 years after you filed for divorce?

What does she gain? If there's truth to it, her mother already explained her motive, she was cheated on and wanted to ruin Zach and Urban because she's a vengeful c*nt.

The Columbus radio station played a recorded 911 conversation, how are you going to sit there and call it moronic? Put your bias away if you want to talk about this any further. There are TONS of questions on both sides surrounding this topic and you only want to side with the anti-Urban ones even though her story is crumbling.

 

[Red_Alert]

THAT FUCKING BITCH. THE WHOLE THING'S A SET-UP. RALLY FOR ZACH SMITH!!!

No?

 

[socaljim242]

And you can't just fire someone because they "could have..." without any evidence. If I had a batshit crazy wife who accused me of abuse when I didn't do anything and it resulted in me losing job, I'd be finding an attorney that second to take my wrongful termination suit.

And again, if the report that came out yesterday has any truth to it, there's absolutely no reason at all to say Meyer should've fired him then. If you start a trend where men can be fired if there's simply an allegation of abuse, it sets a pretty terrifying precedent.

I don't have knowledge of his contract but USC fired Sark after telling him thats it one more incident and you're done. He coached a game where some people smelled alcohol and he was acting weird and they fired him. They didn't have him arrested they didn't have him checked for blood alcohol level there was not actual 100% proof he was drunk but they just fired him and he lost in court. If Urban sat Smith down between 2009 and 2015 and said any cops to your house and any hint of abuse going on I dont need that and you're done here. I will recommend you for a job if you just go quietly. Thats all he has to do. It's so crazy that you think an assistant coach can't be let go for a number of reasons. He could have just said the WR group should have done better in his opinion. How does Smith fight that in court?

 

[ericd7633]

Yeah I'd heard he was still getting a paycheck. What's Stadium though?

It's a multi-platform sports network that has live games, highlights and daily studio programming.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

What does she gain? If there's truth to it, her mother already explained her motive, she was cheated on and wanted to ruin Zach and Urban because she's a vengeful c*nt.

The Columbus radio station played a recorded 911 conversation, how are you going to sit there and call it moronic? Put your bias away if you want to talk about this any further. There are TONS of questions on both sides surrounding this topic and you only want to side with the anti-Urban ones even though her story is crumbling.

Show me the articles where her story is crumbling? There has to be 100’s of them since this is a national story.

 

[7Samurai13]

I don't have knowledge of his contract but USC fired Sark after telling him thats it one more incident and you're done. He coached a game where some people smelled alcohol and he was acting weird and they fired him. They didn't have him arrested they didn't have him checked for blood alcohol level there was not actual 100% proof he was drunk but they just fired him and he lost in court. If Urban sat Smith down between 2009 and 2015 and said any cops to your house and any hint of abuse going on I dont need that and you're done here. I will recommend you for a job if you just go quietly. Thats all he has to do. It's so crazy that you think an assistant coach can't be let go for a number of reasons. He could have just said the WR group should have done better in his opinion. How does Smith fight that in court?

Then he gets paid a buy out and with the arrest they can fire him with cause and not pay out his contract. It is costing them a hell of a lot more than what his buyout is now.

 

[Red_Alert]

I don't have knowledge of his contract but USC fired Sark after telling him thats it one more incident and you're done. He coached a game where some people smelled alcohol and he was acting weird and they fired him. They didn't have him arrested they didn't have him checked for blood alcohol level there was not actual 100% proof he was drunk but they just fired him and he lost in court. If Urban sat Smith down between 2009 and 2015 and said any cops to your house and any hint of abuse going on I dont need that and you're done here. I will recommend you for a job if you just go quietly. Thats all he has to do. It's so crazy that you think an assistant coach can't be let go for a number of reasons. He could have just said the WR group should have done better in his opinion. How does Smith fight that in court?

Zach Smith is just their fall guy. You can't be calling the man innocent, he was never arrested, there's no proof he abused her, her marks are from him defending himself, she's a crazy drunk and been scheming for 6 years to set-up and take down Zach and Urbs.
Yet out of the other side of their mouths they call Zach a POS and don't rally for his job same as they're doing for Urbs.
They're even calling for the AD to be fired for shit that is all 'contrived lies' by Courtney Smith.