Maddux, Glavine, Thomas elected to HOF

[ImSmartherThanYou]

Do we know how many of those were 1) blank ballots or 2) someone voted for 10 other guys and had no room left?

How is Greg Maddux the odd man out on a 10-man ballot?

 

[ImSmartherThanYou]

Three greats made it. Biggie should have, too.

Piazza and Bagwell were dirty. Hope they never make it in.

Lee Smith deserves to be in, too.

This is one of the dumbest things I've read today. Well done.

 

[ImSmartherThanYou]

hall of fame is a joke just like mlb

How is MLB a joke? And why are you posting about it? If MLB is a joke, what does that make every other sports league?

 

[ImSmartherThanYou]

How so? And LOL @ Smith.

At least the most overrated pitcher of all-time didn't make it in.

Nolan Ryan's already in, as he should be.

 

[ImSmartherThanYou]

The idea that Mo is overrated is as ludicrous as not voting for Maddux.

Mo is overrated.

Signed, a Yankee fan with a #42 jersey.

 

[navamind]

The only knock that I ever had on Maddux was that he was average at best in the postseason, 11-14 with a 3.27 ERA

That is not "average at best."

 

[Droopdog51]

Yeah, that's it, I'm a drive by trash talker.

Piazza admitted using PEDS. Read his book.

Bagwell never admitted using PEDS, but funny how he doubled in size and started hitting 40 HR's a year all of a sudden. Even if he didn't use PEDS, he endorsed their use. A guy who cares little for the integrity of the game doesn't belong in the HOF.

Lee is 3rd all-time in Saves. He was among the elite of all-time. When you think of the greatest Closers of all-time he immediately comes to mind.

Do you have anything credible that Bags used PEDs? Please provide it or quit throwing out YOUR accusations.

 

[DragonfromTO]

The only knock that I ever had on Maddux was that he was average at best in the postseason, 11-14 with a 3.27 ERA

Average? Hell, his regular season ERA was only 3.16.

That being said, I don't have the numbers in front of me but I seem to recall that he gave up a ton of unearned runs in the playoffs and his postseason ERA actually overrates his contributions... may be remembering this wrong though.

 

[Golden Spur]

Mad dog was awesome, man. Great talent.

 

[DragonfromTO]

That's like keeping Lou Gehrig out because he was a failed outfielder.

Brilliant.

In a full season an outfielder and a first baseman play the same number of games and get the same number of plate appearances.

 

[DragonfromTO]

Yeah, that's it, I'm a drive by trash talker.

Piazza admitted using PEDS. Read his book.

Bagwell never admitted using PEDS, but funny how he doubled in size and started hitting 40 HR's a year all of a sudden. Even if he didn't use PEDS, he endorsed their use. A guy who cares little for the integrity of the game doesn't belong in the HOF.

Lee is 3rd all-time in Saves. He was among the elite of all-time. When you think of the greatest Closers of all-time he immediately comes to mind.

When I took part in an "all-time" 16 team career draft (one "closer" per team) I don't believe he was even selected by anyone.

 

[gunnarthor]

How is Greg Maddux the odd man out on a 10-man ballot?

I could see someone worrying that a guy like Kent or Moose might fall of the ballot and deciding to load up on guys downballot knowing that the other voters would take care of Maddux.

 

[navamind]

Maddux had 72 ER in the postseason. 97 runs allowed overall. That is a lot.

 

[gunnarthor]

Mad dog was awesome, man. Great talent.

Yeah, I think he's getting the short end of the stick - esp if you think he was a clean slugger in the PED era. I'd have voted for him. I wonder if the voters hold the fact that he turned down a trade to a contender near the end of his career against him.

 

[Darkstone42]

Since Glavin got in, there's no reason Mussina, who had ultimately essentially the same career in about the same way, shouldn't be in. That's mistake number one.

Mistake number two is keeping Biggio out. Again.

Mistake number three is keeping truly great players out because they might have used some sort of PED before they were outlawed. Professional athletes seek competitive edges. It's their job. Take away half of Bonds's homers, though, and he's still an all-time elite hitter.

 

[gunnarthor]

Since Glavin got in, there's no reason Mussina, who had ultimately essentially the same career in about the same way, shouldn't be in. That's mistake number one.

Mistake number two is keeping Biggio out. Again.

Mistake number three is keeping truly great players out because they might have used some sort of PED before they were outlawed. Professional athletes seek competitive edges. It's their job. Take away half of Bonds's homers, though, and he's still an all-time elite hitter.

Well, I believe Bonds was taking PEDs after they were outlawed as well.

 

[Darkstone42]

Also, this article.

The Hall of Fame?s Standard, and Its Biggest Problem | FanGraphs Baseball

 

[Darkstone42]

And furthermore, this article.

Maddux, Glavine, and Thomas Elected to Hall of Fame | FanGraphs Baseball

 

[gunnarthor]

MLB Hall of Fame voting during the steroid era - Grantland

 

[navamind]

Completely forgot about this commercial.