LOL @ Minnesota Here

[fredsdeadfriend]

You think what the Gophers did decades ago means something today. It doesn't.

And you think any sites that don't have your team ranked high enough are somehow biased. You really are one funny homeristic fella.

No, I don't think what the Gophers did decades ago means anything more than they did it, DECADES AGO, and it's not right to pretend like it didn't happen like some do now days, mostly fans of teams who don't have glorious histories to point to. OSU fans would count among that group because you hate that Michigan was the King and dominant over OSU for so much of early cfb history.

What I DO think means something today is simple,

Fairly new outdoor stadium.
Fairly new Coach who was a hot ticket when we got him.
Brand new Practice facility.
11-2 season just prior to Covid bs.
Upgrade in recruiting rank of incoming classes.
Upgrade in talent seen in # of players getting nominated for awards, making All-American or All-Big Ten and/or getting drafted into the NFL.


And no, I judge each site by the merits that they deserve. If they are some For Profit News site that puts out articles and/or rankings and ratings that don't make sense just to stir up controversy then I know that their rankings/ratings should be taken with a grain of salt or disregarded in total.

 

[Wamu]

I'm not living in the past, simply acknowledging it exists, big difference.

Over multiple threads spanning months here's some of the goofy nonsense you've said trying to overly pimp up all things Minnesota Gophers.

-they are on par with N.D. football

-they have the best hockey program in the country (even though multiple schools have more titles)

-one of my all time favorites: Minnesota has 30 Noble Prize winners

-only you call them the cradle of coaches (even though Miami (OH.) has the phrase trademarked)


It's one thing to be a fan of a team. But you take your fandom to a nonstop psychotic level. And now you're trying to say any site that doesn't have your team ranked high enough (all time CFB programs) has a biased agenda.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Over multiple threads spanning months here's some of the goofy nonsense you've said trying to overly pimp up all things Minnesota Gophers.

-they are on par with N.D. football

First off, I NEVER SAID THAT.

-they have the best hockey program in the country (even though multiple schools have more titles)

Dude, YOU are pimping Cfb rankings that don't seem to care how many Natl Titles a team has, I mean tOSU only has 1 in the 21st Century, yet that one rating system ranks them #1 in the 21st Century, so which is it, does a team have to have the most Natl Titles to be #1, or not?

So here you have to either denounce a rating system that has your Buckeyes at #1 in the 21st Century, or acknowledge that may claim of Minnesota being the #1 hockey program of All-Time could be legit? Which is it loser?

-one of my all time favorites: Minnesota has 30 Noble Prize winners

They do have around that many. Only ONE public University has more. How is that being a homer? I can easily provide the links that prove this. It's a simple fact.

-only you call them the cradle of coaches (even though Miami (OH.) has the phrase trademarked)

THE FACTS. The facts bear out that UMn has been more of a Cradle of Coaches than Miami of Ohio has been. Again you are showing yourself to be a simple minded SHEEP who believes what The Man/Big Brother, the popular media tells you. I call that Lazy Brain syndrome. Unable or unwilling to check out the facts on your own and come to your own conclusions.

It's one thing to be a fan of a team. But you take your fandom to a nonstop psychotic level. And now you're trying to say any site that doesn't have your team ranked high enough (all time CFB programs) has a biased agenda.

No one else seems to want to or care to or dare to speak THE TRUTHS that I do about the Univ of Minnesota, and I don't care about popularity here or making friends here, SO I DO IT. I enjoy doing it, I enjoy seeing how batsh1t crazy you losers act in response, it's hilarious to me.

I mean, NONE of what I post is made up. Some of it might be a little rose colored via some homer bias, but it's all based on FACTS.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Over multiple threads spanning months here's some of the goofy nonsense you've said trying to overly pimp up all things Minnesota Gophers.

-they are on par with N.D. football

-they have the best hockey program in the country (even though multiple schools have more titles)

-one of my all time favorites: Minnesota has 30 Noble Prize winners

-only you call them the cradle of coaches (even though Miami (OH.) has the phrase trademarked)


It's one thing to be a fan of a team. But you take your fandom to a nonstop psychotic level. And now you're trying to say any site that doesn't have your team ranked high enough (all time CFB programs) has a biased agenda.

And you missed the one where I claimed no state more than Minnesota contributed to the Allies winning World War 2, lol.

 

[Wamu]

First off, I NEVER SAID THAT.



Dude, YOU are pimping Cfb rankings that don't seem to care how many Natl Titles a team has, I mean tOSU only has 1 in the 21st Century, yet that one rating system ranks them #1 in the 21st Century, so which is it, does a team have to have the most Natl Titles to be #1, or not?

So here you have to either denounce a rating system that has your Buckeyes at #1 in the 21st Century, or acknowledge that may claim of Minnesota being the #1 hockey program of All-Time could be legit? Which is it loser?



They do have around that many. Only ONE public University has more. How is that being a homer? I can easily provide the links that prove this. It's a simple fact.



THE FACTS. The facts bear out that UMn has been more of a Cradle of Coaches than Miami of Ohio has been. Again you are showing yourself to be a simple minded SHEEP who believes what The Man/Big Brother, the popular media tells you. I call that Lazy Brain syndrome. Unable or unwilling to check out the facts on your own and come to your own conclusions.



No one else seems to want to or care to or dare to speak THE TRUTHS that I do about the Univ of Minnesota, and I don't care about popularity here or making friends here, SO I DO IT. I enjoy doing it, I enjoy seeing how batsh1t crazy you losers act in response, it's hilarious to me.

I mean, NONE of what I post is made up. Some of it might be a little rose colored via some homer bias, but it's all based on FACTS.

If Minnesota is the true cradle of coaches why is it nobody other than you has claimed that?

Ohio State has 2 national titles this century ('02 & '14). Not one like you've claimed. And are on a short list of programs that have multiple titles this century so far. Bama (6), LSU (2), Clemson (2), Ohio State, Florida (2) & USC (2). That's it.

Simply put you're a nonstop liar. And your homerism will never stop. You're without a doubt the worst over the top homer on this site. You say outright lies all the time.

And always remember Minnesota hasn't won a national title in 61 years. Yet you think they're one of the elite programs.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

If Minnesota is the true cradle of coaches why is it nobody other than you has claimed that?

Because nobody was looking for it. Miami of Ohio saw an opportunity to promote their NEVER ranked in the Top 25 program to garner some sort of name for themselves and did so. That simple.

And why is it that I have offered to present the facts regarding this, because I KNOW that they support me. And all you want to do is lazily trust the press? Or the biased source of the original story, Miami of Ohio? You know that it was Miami of Ohio that started calling themselves that, not other people who noticed it and giving them that title? Just a case of self promotion that was needed because there was no other way to promote Miami of Ohio football, where as that was not the case with other big schools like Notre Dame, Michigan and Minnesota.

Ohio State has 2 national titles this century ('02 & '14). Not one like you've claimed. And are on a short list of programs that have multiple titles this century so far. Bama (6), LSU (2), Clemson (2), Ohio State, Florida (2) & USC (2). That's it.

Sorry, 1/2, basically the same point when Bama has SIX!!! That is 3 times as many. Yet you, because of YOUR OWN BIAS, like polls/rankings that put OSU ahead of Bama, despite how retarded that is.

And 6 is not very short of a list considering it's only been 21 seasons. Those 6 account for 16 of the 21 years, meaning there is a shorter list of teams with only 1 title.

Simply put you're a nonstop liar. And your homerism will never stop. You're without a doubt the worst over the top homer on this site. You say outright lies all the time.

What have I lied about? Oh, I forgot about one of OSU's titles? Thought that one was from the late 90s, SO SORRY. That's not a lie, that's just a mistake, a memory that is not perfect. So sorry for not having a perfect memory regarding tOSU sports history. But that is what you are here for, to quickly correct me. Lies are meant to deceive people, I had no intention of deceiving anyone as most who dwell here would both know OSU had 2, and also understand the very legitimate point that I was trying to make, that it's hypocritical to ridicule one person for claiming a team is #1 when they don't have the most Titles, and then turning around and accepting a ranking that has their team ranked #1, when not having the most Natl Titles.

Hypocrite, that is what you are, and not a very smart one, either.

And always remember Minnesota hasn't won a national title in 61 years. Yet you think they're one of the elite programs.

Which only highlights JUST HOW AMAZING they were back in the day, because despite not having won a Natl Title in 61 years or a conf title for over 50, they still rank as high as #11 in at least one All-Time Ranking, and #17/18 in Billingsley's, and #29 in one of the ones you listed.

I found a Sports Magazine of some sort back in the late 90s, can't remember the name, that had Minnesota rated as Top 25 all-time, I think they were #18? and the paragraph or two they wrote of commentary mentioned how surprised some of the readers might be that they were rated so highly, but the author assured the readers that it was no mistake, that Minnesota was SO GOOD back in the day, that it was very deserving of still being in the Top 25 at that time.


And I REPEAT, I never claimed that they were currently "elite", but that they WERE before and very easily could become so again.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

List of Nobel laureates by university affiliation - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Read it and weep LOSER. UMn's listed in 24th overall since 1901, with 30, THIRTY Nobel Laureates associated with it.

They are rated #19 worldwide since 2000.


What about this is a lie? Hello, moron, can't you read? Is Wikipedia run by a Minnesota homer who is lying and everyone is letting them get away with it? lol

 

[Wamu]

List of Nobel laureates by university affiliation - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Read it and weep LOSER. UMn's listed in 24th overall since 1901, with 30, THIRTY Nobel Laureates associated with it.

They are rated #19 worldwide since 2000.


What about this is a lie? Hello, moron, can't you read? Is Wikipedia run by a Minnesota homer who is lying and everyone is letting them get away with it? lol

You can go with wiki. Not the most accurate or reliable site to look info up. That's why I don't use it. I'll go by what this site says instead- bestmastersprograms.org. According to them Minnesota has 23 Noble winners. Not the 30 you wanna claim.

 

[Wamu]

@fredsdeadfriend


Your IQ is single digits isn't it? I like how you said Bama has 3x as many titles this century as Ohio State. Which is true. But I wasn't trying to compare those two programs.

You are aware that Bama also has 3x as many titles as the other teams I mentioned (Clemson, LSU, Florida & USC) this century? But you don't wanna talk about that do you? Not only are you a stupid homer you're also a hypocrite for singling out Ohio State and not those other programs I mentioned.

 

[Wamu]

I mean tOSU only has 1 in the 21st Century

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Gil Dobie, Clark Shaughnessy, Bernie Bierman, Biggie Munn, Bud Wilkinson. All UMners who got into the Cfb HOF as coaches. Ossie Solem made it into the Helms AF Hall of Fame, I believe.

Bud Grant, Dave Skrein, Marc Trestman. All UMners with Grey Cup Titles to their names. Frank Larson also got to the Title game but lost. Totally these 4 got to 15 Grey Cup Championship games winning 8 of them.

Bud Grant, Tony Dungy. Both UMners who got into the NFL Hall of Fame as coaches. Clark Shaughnessy was nominated 3 separate times, but his only coaching 2 seasons in the NFL may have kept voters from voting him in.

Bud Grant. Only person alive who got into both the CFL and NFL Halls of Fame as a coach.

Jim Malosky, UMner who was the Winningest cfb coach in Div 2 at the time of his retirement. Still #2 overall after over 2 decades for others to catch him.

UMn with at least 14 former players having coached in the NFL, the most ever by any university as far as I can tell? Go ahead, prove me wrong if you can, I'd suggest checking out Notre Dame first, they'd be my bet as the most likely to have UMn beat in this regard, and NOT Miami of Ohio.

UMners with Cfb Natl Titles as coaches, arguably in 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 34, 35, 36, 40, 40, 41, 49, 50, 51, 52, 54, 55, 56 & 57. That's like 18 in 37 years? I listed 19, but one of those in the 50s(possibly 57) may not have gotten any Natl Title nominations? There were just so many of them, almost every single year, so I can't keep track of them perfectly. I am sure you will give do diligence and find the one I included and shouldn't have, and despite my mentioning it, you will lie and claim I claimed X number of titles when it was only Y and call me a liar, lol. But I don't care anymore if you call me a liar because you call me a liar even when I give you sources and prove myself as telling the truth, so go ahead and keep calling me a liar all day long, 24/7/365, I don't care because I know the facts bear out.

And there is one high school coach, a UMner of course, who is the only coach who can claim 2 Pro FB Hall of Famers as one of his players, and he also coached a future Heisman winner as well. Miami of Ohio can not match even one of what I listed above, cept the 2 coaches in the NFL HOF thing, but one of those has just barely above a .500 record and got into the HOF merely because he was lucky enough to coach Joe Namath, maybe? Why else would you get in when just barely winning more than you lose?


And Miami of Ohio includes coaches who they hired to coach there, who didn't play for Miami of Ohio, so Henry Williams is another Hall of Famer to add to the list, and so then I can also claim more Cfb Natl Titles in 1947 and FC should get credit for the one in 1948 as well as he left the cupboards very full for Oosterban, who didn't do as well with his own players after 48, but of course that is not how it works, as Fritz Crisler started his Head Coaching career at Minnesota, and I can add Lou Holtz's Natty at Notre Dame in 88. The Notre Dame coach who led them to their title in 77, was in the UMn system, played for a UMner Jim Malosky, at UM-D, and led both Arizona St and Missouri to undefeated seasons before going to Notre Dame and then to the NFL. But I won't include him in the list. Fritz had 2 former Gophers as his top assistant coaches for most of the 40s, too. Also, Crisler along with Holtz got into the Hall of Fame as coaches, as did other Asst Coaches for the Gophers, including Red Dawson I think, who played for Bierman at Tulane and then coached under him at Minnesota before taking over for the UMner Ted Cox who took over for Bierman at Tulane. Cox got Tulane ranked high in the rankings at least one of his 4 seasons coaching them, as did Dawson in his time at Tulane. Tad Weiman is another UMn asst coach who got into the CFb hall of Fame I believe? Others will get in such as Shanahan and possibly Mike Martz? Murray Warmath might get into the HOF someday as well, if not for his getting the Gophers back into the Natl Title hunt in the 60s, maybe for his being one of the first to recruit lots of black players? Either way, Miami of Ohio couldn't care less if the person did any good as a coach, they claim them just for getting the job, lol. And because of this I could list dozens more, but won't at this time.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

@fredsdeadfriend


Your IQ is single digits isn't it? I like how you said Bama has 3x as many titles this century as Ohio State. Which is true. But I wasn't trying to compare those two programs.

You are aware that Bama also has 3x as many titles as the other teams I mentioned (Clemson, LSU, Florida & USC) this century? But you don't wanna talk about that do you? Not only are you a stupid homer you're also a hypocrite for singling out Ohio State and not those other programs I mentioned.

I was talking to YOU, an OSU fan, and someone who was promoting Rankings that had OSU #1 in the 21st Century, despite only having 1/3rd as many Titles as another school ranked LOWER than OSU in that ranking you were promoting

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

You can go with wiki. Not the most accurate or reliable site to look info up. That's why I don't use it. I'll go by what this site says instead- bestmastersprograms.org. According to them Minnesota has 23 Noble winners. Not the 30 you wanna claim.

Do you even check out the links/sources I provide? Wikipedia didn't do their own research, they got the information from somewhere else.

And if you look at the list dude, every school listed has more than one number listed, Illinois, also listed by Wiki with 30, has a separate listing labeled "Univ count" of 23, UMn's Univ count is 25, probably garnered 2 more since that article you mentioned was written? And a school with more than 30 ranked ahead of Minnesota has a Univ count of only 21.

NYU's listed with 38, but only a Univ count of 24.


Maybe if you understood what you were criticizing before you criticized stuff?

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

You can go with wiki. Not the most accurate or reliable site to look info up. That's why I don't use it. I'll go by what this site says instead- bestmastersprograms.org. According to them Minnesota has 23 Noble winners. Not the 30 you wanna claim.

If you look at the comparisons of the Univ Counts to the full count that Wiki has them ranked by, it's obvious most schools are only claiming their alumni and the long term academic staff in their Univ Counts, not the short term academic staff, which Wiki counts.


So you balking at the idea of UMn having had 30 Nobel winners associated with them is laughable, because technically they CAN claim that many, and the list I provided you with is fair and counts them the same for every university.


And if you strip the short term academic staff from the list, UMn's ranking would probably climb HIGHER, lol. So go ahead dude, force me to IMPROVE on the ranking I've been claiming for UMn just so that it can look less impressive to you in your tiny mind, lol.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

@fredsdeadfriend


Your IQ is single digits isn't it? I like how you said Bama has 3x as many titles this century as Ohio State. Which is true. But I wasn't trying to compare those two programs.

You are aware that Bama also has 3x as many titles as the other teams I mentioned (Clemson, LSU, Florida & USC) this century? But you don't wanna talk about that do you? Not only are you a stupid homer you're also a hypocrite for singling out Ohio State and not those other programs I mentioned.

No, my IQ, is not in the single digits. Don't think West Point would send me an invite if that were the case. Nor would any of the 6 colleges I went to let me in, as even Community Colleges have standards, lol. And didn't know people with single digit IQs even existed? And if they do, I doubt they'd regularly be able to get Aces on college tests

 

[Wamu]

No, my IQ, is not in the single digits. Don't think West Point would send me an invite if that were the case. Nor would any of the 6 colleges I went to let me in, as even Community Colleges have standards, lol. And didn't know people with single digit IQs even existed? And if they do, I doubt they'd regularly be able to get Aces on college tests

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

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Call it bullsh1t all you want, it's meaningless seeing as you call me a liar before AND AFTER I post the proof of what I said, proving it true, and then you follow that up by posting something you know is not true, that I have a single digit IQ, so your degree of reliability is very very low. Your criticisms are meaningless basically and posting some of the stuff you do is the kind of thing butt hurt double digit IQ people might post.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

You can go with wiki. Not the most accurate or reliable site to look info up. That's why I don't use it. I'll go by what this site says instead- bestmastersprograms.org. According to them Minnesota has 23 Noble winners. Not the 30 you wanna claim.

UMn's "Univ Count" is higher than Illinois, NYU, some swiss school and very possibly some school in Copenhagen, which would move them up from tied for #24 in the world to 21st in the world, and their alumni count is higher than the Univ of London, Penn and Rockefeller University, but Illinois and Wisconsin's is higher, so they'd only move up to #23 IN THE WORLD if that was the criteria. But that is SEVEN schools ranked tied or ahead of UMn that have worse credentials in one or the other category. But you never saw me in here complaining or claiming a higher ranking, though I could have tried. But you have such a bad case of FDS, Fred Derangement Syndrome, that you are willing to make yourself look stupid and me and UMn look better just so you can try to supposedly catch me in a lie? lol

You are what many would call, A LOSER.

 

[Wamu]

Call it bullsh1t all you want, it's meaningless seeing as you call me a liar before AND AFTER I post the proof of what I said, proving it true, and then you follow that up by posting something you know is not true, that I have a single digit IQ, so your degree of reliability is very very low. Your criticisms are meaningless basically and posting some of the stuff you do is the kind of thing butt hurt double digit IQ people might post.

You seem like a step away from a breakdown and it's funny. I mentioned 247sports, espn & collegefootballnews don't have Gophers football near their all time top 10 list. You said something about a biased agenda. Yeah okay.

But the site you mentioned (tiptop-25-.com, comment # 376) that does have them near the top 10 is legit correct? Keep that nonstop homerism going. It's always entertaining.

 

[Irish7478]

No, I don't think what the Gophers did decades ago means anything more than they did it, DECADES AGO, and it's not right to pretend like it didn't happen like some do now days, mostly fans of teams who don't have glorious histories to point to. OSU fans would count among that group because you hate that Michigan was the King and dominant over OSU for so much of early cfb history.

What I DO think means something today is simple,

Fairly new outdoor stadium.
Fairly new Coach who was a hot ticket when we got him.
Brand new Practice facility.
11-2 season just prior to Covid bs.
Upgrade in recruiting rank of incoming classes.
Upgrade in talent seen in # of players getting nominated for awards, making All-American or All-Big Ten and/or getting drafted into the NFL.


And no, I judge each site by the merits that they deserve. If they are some For Profit News site that puts out articles and/or rankings and ratings that don't make sense just to stir up controversy then I know that their rankings/ratings should be taken with a grain of salt or disregarded in total.

do you realize that Minnesota’s “fairly new outdoor stadium“ is the second smallest stadium in the Big Ten? Larger than only Northwestern’s stadium (Which was built in 1926). In fact, there are three Big Ten stadiums that are more than double the size of Minnesota’s stadium. It’s a miracle that the Big Ten allows Minnesota to stay in the conference playing in such a small stadium.