LOL @ Minnesota Here

[fredsdeadfriend]

Top 30 Athletic Programs. Um nowhere to be found - LMAO

The 30 Most Successful College Athletic Programs | BestCollegeReviews

A ranking of the most successful college athletics programs. Ranked by program affordability, flexibility, and academic quality.

www.bestcollegereviews.org

That list is a big fat dumb fucking joke. What in the hell is their measuring stick? I don't think they have one?! What seemed trendy the month they wrote the article maybe? lol

 

[TheLonestarDUCK]

Ok here is one with Um in top 25

Top 25 college programs ranked by athletic success

Taking a closer look at Learfield Directors' Cup standings grading overall athletic success courtesy of Yahoo! Sports.

247sports.com

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

From the guy that quotes Wikipedia - LMAO

Did you even look at the list? Or did you just see where they ranked Oregon and assumed it had to be legit?


Dude, I know college sports and that list is retarded.

 

[TheLonestarDUCK]

Ok here is another one Um nowhere

The 30 most dominant college-sports programs

The University of Florida is the most dominant college sports program in Business Insider's annual rankings.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Ok here is one with Um in top 25

Top 25 college programs ranked by athletic success

Taking a closer look at Learfield Directors' Cup standings grading overall athletic success courtesy of Yahoo! Sports.

247sports.com

Yeah, now there is one that is pretty legit, FAR more than the other one you posted.

UConn at #4? Come on, that school is totally a one sport school. Doubt it ever even makes the Top 25 of the Director's Cup.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Ok here is another one Um nowhere

The 30 most dominant college-sports programs

The University of Florida is the most dominant college sports program in Business Insider's annual rankings.

www.businessinsider.com

They only look at a single 3 year period and they use Cap One's rating system which is an incredibly cfb heavy rating system. Other sports hardly even matter.

 

[Irish7478]

And Catholics are REKNOWN for being big fat liars, so does it surprise me that you are making claims such as "Notre Dame's endowment is MORE THAN FOUR TIMES the endowment for Minnesota", when that is not even close to being true.

A simple test, I multiplied Minnesota's 3,717,476,000 endowment as of 2018, by 3, and it came up with a number larger than Notre Dame's 10,727,653,000 endowment, meaning NDm doesn't even triple UMn's endowment, much less MORE THAN quadruple it like you claim.

Now I won't call you a liar as you might just be really dumb and bad at math? Or maybe Notre Dame increased their endowment by over 25% just since 2018?

recheck your numbers. After you do, you will realize that on a per student basis, Notre Dame’s endowment per student is 16 times that for a U of Minnesota student. That has to be pretty embarrassing for a Minny student.

 

[TheLonestarDUCK]

They only look at a single 3 year period and they use Cap One's rating system which is an incredibly cfb heavy rating system. Other sports hardly even matter.

As it should be - they don’t go back to 1935

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Ok here is one with Um in top 25

Top 25 college programs ranked by athletic success

Taking a closer look at Learfield Directors' Cup standings grading overall athletic success courtesy of Yahoo! Sports.

247sports.com

I've seen Minnesota ranked as high as #2 in the country after the winter season in this ranking on more than one occasion.

Spring sports heavily favor southern schools and southern schools know this and don't care, and apparently the NCAA doesn't care either. And you can trace the drop off of Northern Schools doing well in spring sports almost to the day that the NCAA changed the scheduling rules making when programs could start practicing much earlier, giving southern schools a huge advantage over northern schools who either have to try to practice in indoor facilities or they have to travel extensively and play lots of road games.

But hey, most colleges love to cheat to gain an unfair advantage over other schools and then their idiot no principles fans brag about the results of their teams cheating.

But that's ok.

Honorable schools like Minnesota take it in stride and still figure out ways to survive and even thrive.

 

[TheLonestarDUCK]

I've seen Minnesota ranked as high as #2 in the country after the winter season in this ranking on more than one occasion.

Spring sports heavily favor southern schools and southern schools know this and don't care, and apparently the NCAA doesn't care either. And you can trace the drop off of Northern Schools doing well in spring sports almost to the day that the NCAA changed the scheduling rules making when programs could start practicing much earlier, giving southern schools a huge advantage over northern schools who either have to try to practice in indoor facilities or they have to travel extensively and play lots of road games.

But hey, most colleges love to cheat to gain an unfair advantage over other schools and then their idiot no principles fans brag about the results of their teams cheating.

But that's ok.

Honorable schools like Minnesota take it in stride and still figure out ways to survive and even thrive.

Now you are learning no one cares about hockey

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

recheck your numbers. After you do, you will realize that on a per student basis, Notre Dame’s endowment per student is 16 times that for a U of Minnesota student. That has to be pretty embarrassing for a Minny student.

Oh now you are needing to do it on a per student basis in order to manipulate the narrative to make it look more impressive than it really is? lol


You are pathetic.

I'm still waiting for you to list even ONE accomplishment by the University of Notre Dame or one of it's alums. Just one? Anything, go on, IF YOU EVEN CAN conjure up anything?!

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Now you are learning no one cares about hockey

That has nothing to do with hockey. Hockey CAN be played in the south, and is. It can be practiced in the middle of the summer anywhere in the country as the same facility you need and is required to play games in, can be used for practice. Hockey is the 3rd most popular sport on the University of Arizona, and Arizona St has a Div 1 Hockey program now. Southern California schools used to have college hockey programs, back in the 30s.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

As it should be - they don’t go back to 1935

It's cherry picking to the max. Schools have good years/periods and bad years/periods and shouldn't be judged solely by those short periods, that is ridiculous to do so.

I mean, if we did that, Oregon football could look HORRIBLE if we only looked at 2016-2018. Would that be fair or smart? No, it wouldn't.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Now you are learning no one cares about hockey

Enough care about hockey so that the average salary of NHL players is approximately 26.66% higher than the average NFLers salary is.

3 mil vs 2.2 mil.

 

[TheLonestarDUCK]

Enough care about hockey so that the average salary of NHL players is approximately 26.66% higher than the average NFLers salary is.

3 mil vs 2.2 mil.

Please name the school that has been represented in the Final Four in the 3 main sports, since the college football playoff era began?

 

[TheLonestarDUCK]

What do these 6 schools have in common- hint it is post 1935

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

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What do these 6 schools have in common- hint it is post 1935

Well, it's NOT Natl Titles in Football, because Oregon is the only one of those 6 without a single Natl Title in cfb, EVER!!!!

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Please name the school that has been represented in the Final Four in the 3 main sports, since the college football playoff era began?

Did Oregon get to the CWS? I know Oregon St did, and they won at least one title, probably more than that, like 3 or 4? Oregon, have they EVER won a CWS? Minnesota has won 3 of them. Oh, I see Oregon has made it to just ONE CWS, back in 1954. UMn's been to 5 and won 3 of them, ALL more recently than Oregon's one trip.

Oregon just recently made a Final Four in Men's college bb, congrats, and has one VERY contested Natl Title back in 1939 that very few experts agree was a legit title as a much better far more legit team won the NIT, with zero losses to Oregon Webfoots 5 losses? And we all know Oregon ONCE got to the Cfb Final Four, and got embarrassed in the Title game, and has NEVER won a Natl Title in hockey, obviously, because despite hockey being played in that region of the country since way back at the start of the Stanley Cup, Oregon has not taken it up.


So ZERO Baseball titles, and ZERO legit cbb titles, and ZERO cfb titles and ZERO chk titles, makes Oregon one of the most pathetic college athletics departments known to mankind, lol.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Please name the school that has been represented in the Final Four in the 3 main sports, since the college football playoff era began?

Minnesota is STILL the only University in the nation with MULTIPLE Natl Titles in all 4 of the collegiate versions of the 4 Major League sports.

6 in cfb, 3 in cBb, 3 in cbb & 5+ in cHk.

Plus they've got 3+ in Wr, too, 11 if you count Natl Duals Titles, which is like a major league sport, with former Gopher Wrestlers making millions competing in their sport after college, from Leo Nomellini and Bronko Nagurski turning to wrestling because it made them more money than pro football and winning multiple Natl/World Titles to Verne Gagne winning tons of titles as well, and creating the AWA, the precursor to both the WWE and the WCW, one of which is run by a former Gopher, I think? To Ric Flair and then Brock Lesnar and soon it will be another Gopher HWT, Gable Steveson, whose already got an NCAA HWT title and a Hwt Gold Medal on his resume. He continues to make UMn Heavyweight U.

And UMn's produced arguably the greatest female Golfer EVER, one of the founders and the first President of the LPGA, I believe, and a member of the WORLD Golf Hall of Fame, Patty Berg, 3 time AP US Female Athlete of the Year. And on the men's side, Tom Lehman was the #1 Golfer in the world in 1996. And the Winningest WNBA player EVER is a former Gopher, and the first Soph to enter the draft and go to the WNBA was a Gopher, too.

UMn simply rocks when it comes to money making sports.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Rule is simple, one player, one coach, one administrator and one post grad who played elsewhere, maximum from each sport/minimum of one of those from each sport, keep going until you can't list anyone worthy anymore. Winner is person whose school has the longest list.

Bronko Nagurski - Cfb player, Defensive POY Award named after him while making the Pro Hall of Fame as an offensive player. Only player in Cfb history to be named All-American at two different positions in the same season. He's been called the greatest football player in history, by some and whether or not that is an accurate description, he's at least a part of the conversation.

Bernie Bierman - Led 2 programs to SEVEN Natl Titles, took a World War to end his 18 game winning streak, and his 1942 team was the early favorite to win the Title before Pearl Harbor robbed the Gophers of most of it's best players and Bierman, and it was he himself who coached the team that ended it, lol. His Iowa Seahawks team that broke his own Minnesota winning streak with a one pt victory over his old and future team, ended the 42 season ranked #2. No cfb coach was more accomplished and bad ass than Bernie Bierman. His teams almost always played all of their ooc games vs top teams, with Washington, Nebraska and Pittsburgh being his favorite ooc opponents. His 1940 team beat FOUR EOS Top Ten ranked teams, including the Pac and Big 6 Champs. His players and asst coaches went on to OWN the 1950s and early 60s.

Bob Stein - First owner and President of the Minnesota Timberwolves. In 2019 Sports Business Journal selected him as one of their 100 Most Accomplished former NFL players in 100 years of the NFL edition. In 2020 he was inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame. He was the first person to sue the NFL on behalf of retired NFL players.

Alan Page - After his Hall of Fame career in the NFL, playing alongside a couple former Gophers on the Vikings, maybe they talked up UMn or maybe he just so loved the state he went to Law school at UMn and is now serving on the Minnesota Supreme Court.

Kevin McHale - Naismith bb Hall of Fame player, made 50th Anniversary Top 50 players of all-time list.

John Kundla - Naismith bb Hall of Fame coach, made 50th Anniversary Top 5 coaches of all-time list. I believe he has the best playoff winning percentage in ProBB/NBA history?

Fred Zollner - Naismith bb Hall of Fame Contributor, Western Conference Title Trophy named after him, he was named Mr Pro Basketball at the 1975 Silver Anniversary NBA All-Star Game for his contributions to bringing about Pro BB. It was in his kitchen at his request that the decision makers of the BAA and NBL got together and formed the NBA. His team, the Fort Wayne Zollner Pistons, later the Detroit Pistons won Titles in 44 and 45 and got to 2 more finals in 54 and 55. He was the first to hire a bench coach. He has a high school, a college fb Stadium and a college Engineering building named after him.

Jim Pollard - Naismith bb Hall of Fame Player. Played his college bb at Stanford but the military kept him from graduating, so he finished his degree at the Univ of Minnesota while playing for the Mpls Lakers where he won 5 Pro BB titles before going into coaching.

Dave Winfield - MLB 1st ballot Hall of Famer. 1st person ever drafted in all 3 sports. Once was the #1 paid athlete in the world.

Paul Molitor - MLB AL Manager of the Year, after being a 1st ballot Hall of Famer as a player.

Walt Jockety - Sporting News Executive of the Year in 2000 and 2004 while GM of the St Louis Cardinals. Cards won WS in 2006 and Jocketty was fired soon after? So Cincinnati gladly hired him where he was named SN Exec of the Year a 3rd time in 2010.

Neal Broten - First Hobey Baker Award winner(cHk's version of the Heisman), member of the 1980 Miracle on Ice team, first American to score 100 pts in the NHL, among other firsts. Scored over 900 pts in his NHL career, US Hockey Hall of Famer.

Bob Johnson - First American to coach a team to the Stanley Cup Championship and the first to coach a team to a Stanley Cup Title. Died before he could defend it. Hockey Hall of Fame member.

Lou Nanne - Managed the Minnesota North Stars.

Walter Bush - competed for Dartmouth collegiately, but returned to his home state and got his Law degree from Univ of Minnesota and went on to become one of, if not THE most accomplished, honored and beloved Hockey Contributors EVER. He was inducted to the US Hockey Hall of Fame in 1980, the IIHF HOF in 2009, the Hockey Hall of Fame in 2000 and was honored with the Olympic Order in 2002. He helped creat/found the Central Hockey League, was instrumental in getting Herb Brooks hired to coach the 1980 Olympic team and was instrumental in getting women's hockey introduced into the Olympics and was instrumental in getting the North Stars up and running. He was voted NHL Executive of the Year in 1972 and was awarded the Lester Patrick Award for his contributions to the sport of hockey in 1973.

Tom Lehman - reached a #1 WORLD ranking as a PGA Golfer in 1996.

Les Bolstad - coached both Tom Lehman and earlier Patty Berg. The Univ of Minnesota golf course is named after him.

Patty Berg - One of the founders and the first President of the LPGA. She combined to win 92 Golf titles, 29 Amateur Titles and 63 Professional Titles, 15 of which were Majors, the most any woman has EVER won in history. Named AP Female Athlete of the Year once in the 30s, once in the 40s and once in the 50s, she was inducted into the World Golf Hall of Fame, was honored with The Bob Jones Award, the USGA's highest Award in the 60s, with an Award in her name in the 70s and the Old Tom Morris Award, the Golf Course Superintendents highest award in the 80s. And if you see a pattern here, well yeah, she won her own Award, the Patty Berg award in the 1990s. It was given by the LPGA to a player who "exemplifies diplomacy, sportsmanship, goodwill and contributions to the game". Berg said in an interview that she gave over 16.000 clinics and in her lifetime probably indoctrinated the game of golf to over half a million people.

Ric Flair - One of the greatest All-Star Wrestlers of history.

Verne Gagne - Some call him the Godfather of All-Star Wrestling. Founder of the AWA, more superstars of wrestling were coached by Gagne than by any other wrestling coach.

Eric Bischoff - Rose to leadership role in the WCW and drew the WWF's #1 draw Hulk Hogan away and to the WCW and many others followed.


I can add more, but we'll see if you accept the challenge or make up some excuse not to participate like a coward. So far, as I have more, I'm at 21 in just 6 sports, all major league money making sports.