Lions select OT at #10

[lionstop1]

Make a list that shows how many CBs the Lions have went through the past ten years.

 

[RobBase]

Make a list that shows how many CBs the Lions have went through the past ten years.

0 1st round CB's under Mayhew, and only 1 in the 2nd round. Pretty much the main reason the Lions have sucked during the Mayhew era.

 

[tpaulus_2]

Why even bother?

Yeah- that's pretty much how the rest of us are starting to feel about you guys and your little drama fishing clique.

 

[tpaulus_2]

TP -- How can you possibly not see this? Over the last 10 years -- here are the picks Detroit has spent on the WR position.

2003 -- #2 overall pick -- Charles Rogers, 6th round pick David Kircus
2004 -- #7 overall pick -- Roy Williams
2005 -- #10 overall pick -- Mike Williams
2007 -- #2 overall pick -- Calvin Johnson
2008 -- 5th round pick -- Kenneth Moore
2009 -- 3rd round pick -- Derrick Williams
2010 -- 7th round pick -- Tim Toone
2011 -- 2nd round pick -- Titus Young
2012 -- 2nd round pick -- Ryan Broyles
2013 -- 6th round pick -- Corey Fuller

Also signed Burleson to a 5 year 25 million dollar contract. He is gone now and they have signed Golden Tate to a 5 year 31 million dollar contract. Also traded a 5th round pick for Mike Thomas.

So in the past 10 years -- we have spent 4 1st round picks, 2 2nd round picks, 1 3rd round pick, 1 5th round pick, 1 6th round pick and 1 7th round pick. We have traded away a pick to get a WR and we have signed two of the top free agent WRs at the time.

You don't see the infatuation with the shiny new toy for the offense?

Nope, I see a drama hunter hard at work. I've come to the conclusion that a few of you are here for the drama, and just happen to like football enough to hang around...

 

[RobBase]

Yeah- that's pretty much how the rest of us are starting to feel about you guys and your little drama fishing clique.

Then make good on your promise to go infect another board if it's so hard for you.

 

[jayfan]

Make a list that shows how many CBs the Lions have went through the past ten years.

Since 2004 they've drafted 10 CB's.

0 in Round 1
1 in Round 2 - Slay
4 in Round 3 - 3 busts (Keith Smith '04, Stanley Wilson '05, Spievey '10), and Bentley.
1 in Round 4 - a bust (A.J. Davis '07)
1 in Round 5 - Greenwood
2 in Round 6 - a bust (Dee McCann '06), and Greene
1 in Round 7 - (Ramzee Robinson '07)

 

[RobBase]

Nope, I see a drama hunter hard at work. I've come to the conclusion that a few of you are here for the drama, and just happen to like football enough to hang around...

White flag alert. Mike wins again.

 

[RobBase]

Since 2004 they've drafted 10 CB's.

0 in Round 1
1 in Round 2 - Slay
4 in Round 3 - 3 busts (Keith Smith '04, Stanley Wilson '05, Spievey '10), and Bentley.
1 in Round 4 - a bust (A.J. Davis '07)
1 in Round 5 - Greenwood
2 in Round 6 - a bust (Dee McCann '06), and Greene
1 in Round 7 - (Ramzee Robinson '07)

You would think a top notch poster like Lionstop would know this.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Make a list that shows how many CBs the Lions have went through the past ten years.

I can make you a list -- it is quite easy. They have spent 0 1st round picks. 2 2nd round picks (one they converted to safety, the other has the most potential of any CB they have had in a while -- Darius Slay) and I believe 2 3rd round picks.

They have spent numerous pick at the back end of the draft but that is nothing more than trying to find a diamond in the rough.

They spent generously over and over on the WR position, both in the draft and in FA. More so than other other position on the team. Think about it -- we actually spent FOUR top 10 picks in 5 years on the WR position. FOUR. What did it get us?

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Nope, I see a drama hunter hard at work. I've come to the conclusion that a few of you are here for the drama, and just happen to like football enough to hang around...

Take your honolulu blue glasses off and let reality smack you in the face. Chasing the unstoppable offense isn't going to make you a Super Bowl contender. Spending high pick after high pick after high pick on Shiny new toys for the offense has gotten us where?

The only thing the Lions have is an exciting offense to watch and 1 winning seasons since the turn of the century. Yet we CONTINUE to make the same type of moves focusing on offense over and over. Detroit is like a broken record. Barry Sanders got sick of it and retired before his time. I wouldn't doubt in the least bit to see Calvin Johnson wanting to jump ship too in the near future.

Losing sucks and when you see the front office making the same mistakes over and over -- it doesn't make it any easier to get your team to the next level.

 

[tpaulus_2]

I can make you a list -- it is quite easy. They have spent 0 1st round picks. 2 2nd round picks (one they converted to safety, the other has the most potential of any CB they have had in a while -- Darius Slay) and I believe 2 3rd round picks.

They have spent numerous pick at the back end of the draft but that is nothing more than trying to find a diamond in the rough.

They spent generously over and over on the WR position, both in the draft and in FA. More so than other other position on the team. Think about it -- we actually spent FOUR top 10 picks in 5 years on the WR position. FOUR. What did it get us?

So easy, apparently, that you had to double-talk your way out of not actually making a list, hey?

 

[tpaulus_2]

I can make you a list -- it is quite easy. They have spent 0 1st round picks. 2 2nd round picks (one they converted to safety, the other has the most potential of any CB they have had in a while -- Darius Slay) and I believe 2 3rd round picks.

They have spent numerous pick at the back end of the draft but that is nothing more than trying to find a diamond in the rough.

They spent generously over and over on the WR position, both in the draft and in FA. More so than other other position on the team. Think about it -- we actually spent FOUR top 10 picks in 5 years on the WR position. FOUR. What did it get us?

It got the guy who made said picks fired. What does that do for your little "Mayhew loves WRs" bitchfest here? Kind of hard to hold Mayhew accountable for all of the draft picks over the last ten years when he's only been our GM for 5 years...

 

[tpaulus_2]

Take your honolulu blue glasses off and let reality smack you in the face. Chasing the unstoppable offense isn't going to make you a Super Bowl contender. Spending high pick after high pick after high pick on Shiny new toys for the offense has gotten us where?

The only thing the Lions have is an exciting offense to watch and 1 winning seasons since the turn of the century. Yet we CONTINUE to make the same type of moves focusing on offense over and over. Detroit is like a broken record. Barry Sanders got sick of it and retired before his time. I wouldn't doubt in the least bit to see Calvin Johnson wanting to jump ship too in the near future.

Losing sucks and when you see the front office making the same mistakes over and over -- it doesn't make it any easier to get your team to the next level.

Haha, that's rich coming from you.

Reality is not your strong suit, pal...

 

[tpaulus_2]

Take your honolulu blue glasses off and let reality smack you in the face. Chasing the unstoppable offense isn't going to make you a Super Bowl contender. Spending high pick after high pick after high pick on Shiny new toys for the offense has gotten us where?

The only thing the Lions have is an exciting offense to watch and 1 winning seasons since the turn of the century. Yet we CONTINUE to make the same type of moves focusing on offense over and over. Detroit is like a broken record. Barry Sanders got sick of it and retired before his time. I wouldn't doubt in the least bit to see Calvin Johnson wanting to jump ship too in the near future.

Losing sucks and when you see the front office making the same mistakes over and over -- it doesn't make it any easier to get your team to the next level.

Heads up, the irony police are on their way to pick you up for that one.

What's that? You think we need to improve at CB? Well fuck, why haven't you bothered to speak up about it?!

 

[Mebert]

Just for giggles I looked it up. Mayhew has drafted 5 wr's and 5 cb's.


WR:
2nd-2
3rd- 1
6th-1
7th-1


CB:
2nd-1
3rd-2
5th-1
6th-1


That is very even.

 

[Mebert]

I counted Spievey and Green as CB's because that is where they started out. Also 1 QB, 4 RB, 3 TE, 4 OT, 1 OG, 0 C, 4 DE, 6 LB, 1 S, 0 K, 1 P

 

[Mebert]

Offense vs Defense per round


1st - 4 O, 3 D
2nd - 3 O, 2 D
3rd - 3 O, 2 D
4th - 1 O, 3 D
5th - 0 O, 3 D, 1 Special teams
6th - 3 O, 1 D
7th - 5 O, 4 D


He Lean slightly to the offense, but not by that much

 

[tpaulus_2]

Just for giggles I looked it up. Mayhew has drafted 5 wr's and 5 cb's.


WR:
2nd-2
3rd- 1
6th-1
7th-1


CB:
2nd-1
3rd-2
5th-1
6th-1



That is very even.

So what you're saying here is that Mayhew has drafted the exact same amount of WRs and CBs in the first three rounds? Inconceivable!

That may be the last we ever hear from TrustMe/MikeD... I'm willing to bet his head literally exploded when confronted with that reality.

 

[RobBase]

Should probably add the Millen years and all the WR's they took then too. Those are all on Mayhew too.

 

[tpaulus_2]

Nice work Mebert. Who would have thunk that readily-available information could so easily de-bunk this "ignoring the defense" mumbo-jumbo?