Le'Veon Bell

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

 

[Pure Steel]

Adam Schefter reports that Le'Veon jet skied for well over 100 yards yesterday.....

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Look at Bell's comment to this... Yea he's going to continue the holdout

 

[Superbelt]

I'm thinking at this point, just hold on to him, let the first 10 games of salary roll over to next year, and franchise his ass as soon as possible again next year.

THEN trade him, at a time when he would be more valuable to a team because they can sign him long-term.

It's not looking likely this season is going anywhere special. Just hold on to the chit, and spend it as we prepare for next season.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

I'm thinking at this point, just hold on to him, let the first 10 games of salary roll over to next year, and franchise his ass as soon as possible again next year.

THEN trade him, at a time when he would be more valuable to a team because they can sign him long-term.

It's not looking likely this season is going anywhere special. Just hold on to the chit, and spend it as we prepare for next season.

Franchise tag would be $20-22mil, wouldn't it? That would be very difficult to fit that under the cap before the new league year when they have to be cap compliant. Even with a trade in the plans they would need to have the room to hold his contract. I think their projected '19 cap number is around $10m right now. Thankfully they don't really have any FA's that will command a top dollar contract (Finney is the only desirable player IMO). But they would be smart to start making decisions on some players that are set for a 2020 UFA (Roethlisberger, Haden, Pouncey, Gilbert, Davis, Hargrave, Dupree).

 

[Yo Tee]

Sure could use his offensive production right now though. Wouldn't help the defense, but it would help our running game, which has been non-existent since Week 1. 158 rushing yards in the first week, a combined 130 in weeks 2-4, which is 43.3 rushing yards per game.

 

[Ewa PGH Fan]

Sure could use his offensive production right now though.

To do what??? Run the ball 10 times a game?????? The Offensive schemes have sucked thru the 1st 4 games and Bell won't change that. They're getting outcoached and Bell won't help with that either.

Now if Bell suits up on D and can cover somebody, that would really help. Of course with the lack of pressure they put on opposing QBs, Bell would cover for 5 seconds but his man would get open after that and the results would be the same as we're seeing now!!!

 

[Superbelt]

Franchise tag would be $20-22mil, wouldn't it? That would be very difficult to fit that under the cap before the new league year when they have to be cap compliant. Even with a trade in the plans they would need to have the room to hold his contract. I think their projected '19 cap number is around $10m right now. Thankfully they don't really have any FA's that will command a top dollar contract (Finney is the only desirable player IMO). But they would be smart to start making decisions on some players that are set for a 2020 UFA (Roethlisberger, Haden, Pouncey, Gilbert, Davis, Hargrave, Dupree).

It will be crazy, but we'll have about 10 million extra to handle it (Assuming he comes back after 10 weeks). That money gets rolled over into next years cap.

LeVeon holding out has made it possible to afford his tag next year.

The Steelers very well might be 40 million under the cap or more when the next league year starts.

 

[Yo Tee]

To do what??? Run the ball 10 times a game?????? The Offensive schemes have sucked thru the 1st 4 games and Bell won't change that. They're getting outcoached and Bell won't help with that either.

Now if Bell suits up on D and can cover somebody, that would really help. Of course with the lack of pressure they put on opposing QBs, Bell would cover for 5 seconds but his man would get open after that and the results would be the same as we're seeing now!!!

Bell would be able to get more rushing yards because Bell is a better back than Conner. But having Bell on the field isn't an option, so we have to brainstorm what would help because having Conner as the lone back isn't working right now. Bring Samuels or Ridley into the fold. Dual back this shit.

 

[Superbelt]

The Steelers are looking to be about 20 Million under the cap going into next season, depending on how much of Bell's FT gets rolled over.
Cut Dupree, that's 9 million (Or resign him to a lower cap it if he actually improves this season).
Extension for Ben that brings his high cap hit down.
Cut some other tertiary characters like Tyson or the veteran WR's like Bey..
How much is the cap going up? 10 million?

Steelers could be swimming in money.

The Steelers will absolutely have the money at the start of the league year to Franchise this cat. While they will be players in Free Agency, they won't be playing with the crazy money right at the start, anyway. They have time to dangle Bell. And, once he is traded, that frees up his FT money to use elsewhere.

 

[Yo Tee]

The Steelers are looking to be about 20 Million under the cap going into next season, depending on how much of Bell's FT gets rolled over.
Cut Dupree, that's 9 million (Or resign him to a lower cap it if he actually improves this season).
Extension for Ben that brings his high cap hit down.
Cut some other tertiary characters like Tyson or the veteran WR's like Bey..
How much is the cap going up? 10 million?

Steelers could be swimming in money.

The Steelers will absolutely have the money at the start of the league year to Franchise this cat. While they will be players in Free Agency, they won't be playing with the crazy money right at the start, anyway. They have time to dangle Bell. And, once he is traded, that frees up his FT money to use elsewhere.

Why franchise someone who doesn't want to play for the team? It would be the same shit all over again. we need to spend that money on a stellar defensive player at this point.

 

[Ewa PGH Fan]

Bell would be able to get more rushing yards because Bell is a better back than Conner. But having Bell on the field isn't an option, so we have to brainstorm what would help because having Conner as the lone back isn't working right now. Bring Samuels or Ridley into the fold. Dual back this shit.

A few more yards doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what RB is back there if the run/pass split is 10/60+ every game. The new OC is catering to Ben and getting Bell back won't change that.

 

[Superbelt]

Why franchise someone who doesn't want to play for the team? It would be the same shit all over again. we need to spend that money on a stellar defensive player at this point.

You franchise them, because then you get compensation in a trade. Rather than cut him loose and hope for a good comp pick.

There would be 0 intent to actually pay him a penny of that money. Just asserting rights over him to get a good pick, or player, rather than letting him walk.

 

[Yo Tee]

A few more yards doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what RB is back there if the run/pass split is 10/60+ every game. The new OC is catering to Ben and getting Bell back won't change that.

Well we aren't getting Bell back, so what's the solution at RB?

 

[Ewa PGH Fan]

Well we aren't getting Bell back, so what's the solution at RB?

Call more than 10 running plays a game. I don't know what you mean by solution at RB. Other than Bell after week 10, the roster won't change this year.

 

[Yo Tee]

Call more than 10 running plays a game. I don't know what you mean by solution at RB. Other than Bell after week 10, the roster won't change this year.

This is what I mean by solution at RB. James Conner isn't working out right now. Hasn't for the last 3 weeks. We don't have to change the roster, we have Ridley and Samuels at our disposal. The running game is the weakness of our offense. How do we fix it? We could call 30 running plays but if the guy is only gonna get 2-3 yards a carry, it doesn't matter. 2 yards per carry last night and against Kansas City.

 

[Ewa PGH Fan]

This is what I mean by solution at RB. James Conner isn't working out right now. Hasn't for the last 3 weeks. We don't have to change the roster, we have Ridley and Samuels at our disposal. The running game is the weakness of our offense. How do we fix it? We could call 30 running plays but if the guy is only gonna get 2-3 yards a carry, it doesn't matter. 2 yards per carry last night and against Kansas City.

I don't agree. How can you say he's working out or not if we're only calling 10 running plays a game. Plus, I believe Conner is averaging over a 100/yards from scrimmage per game just like Bell. Yeah the yards per carry are low because when some of those plays were short yardage and goal line carries and you only get 10 carries per game the average sucks. And the majority of his touches per game are passing plays especially dump offs, just like Bell. Proof once again that one stat doesn't tell the whole story.

The running game isn't the weakness. Being outcoached every week and the poor play calling, schemes and games plans are. You can't see the forest for the trees. We all know you don't like Conner and are just throwing him under the bus instead of looking at the root cause of the problem.

The question of not running enough came up last year even though we had Bell all year. There were games were we all asked why did we only run X times when we have a back like Bell. "Shouldn't Bell be getting more running plays?", etc....... The same question is coming up again this year. Ben was asked about it yesterday during post-game. He blamed trailing in games but that doesn't explain the TB game where we had a big lead at half time. It's not Conner or Bell's fault we don't run the ball more. That's a coaching issue, nothing more.

 

[Yo Tee]

I don't agree. How can you say he's working out or not if we're only calling 10 running plays a game. Plus, I believe Conner is averaging over a 100/yards from scrimmage per game just like Bell. Yeah the yards per carry are low because when some of those plays were short yardage and goal line carries and you only get 10 carries per game the average sucks. And the majority of his touches per game are passing plays especially dump offs, just like Bell. Proof once again that one stat doesn't tell the whole story.

The running game isn't the weakness. Being outcoached every week and the poor play calling, schemes and games plans are. You can't see the forest for the trees. We all know you don't like Conner and are just throwing him under the bus instead of looking at the root cause of the problem.

The question of not running enough came up last year even though we had Bell all year. There were games were we all asked why did we only run X times when we have a back like Bell. "Shouldn't Bell be getting more running plays?", etc....... The same question is coming up again this year. Ben was asked about it yesterday during post-game. He blamed trailing in games but that doesn't explain the TB game where we had a big lead at half time. It's not Conner or Bell's fault we don't run the ball more. That's a coaching issue, nothing more.

I think you can say he's working out or not based on 4 games and based on what he does with those carries. If he were averaging 5 yards per carry, that would be different. But he's not. He's barely getting 3 ypc and yes, while part of the issue is the play calling breakdown, Conner needs to be able to get more out of his runs. You can't expect to rush for 2-3 yards a carry and expect your coaches to give you the ball more.

We ran Bell an average of 21 times a game last year. He performed though. He got 4-5 ypc each game. Lowest he averaged was 3.04 against the Lions last year. Conner so far has 2 games under 3 ypc. If you can't rush the ball, why are we gonna waste the plays by trying something that clearly doesn't work? I think we need to incorporate another RB. Either Ridley or Samuels. Samuels was pretty good in preseason, would like to see him get some regular season snaps.

 

[Psych-Ward]

Franchise tag would be $20-22mil, wouldn't it? That would be very difficult to fit that under the cap before the new league year when they have to be cap compliant. Even with a trade in the plans they would need to have the room to hold his contract. I think their projected '19 cap number is around $10m right now. Thankfully they don't really have any FA's that will command a top dollar contract (Finney is the only desirable player IMO). But they would be smart to start making decisions on some players that are set for a 2020 UFA (Roethlisberger, Haden, Pouncey, Gilbert, Davis, Hargrave, Dupree).

His tag would be much less.......
Remember it's based off of what he's getting now.....And right now he hasn't made shit.
If he plays 8 games, what he is paid for those 8 games would be what it's based on.