Lester sucks, Royals pummel Yankees and Kraft feels duped.

[Most Driven]

That does it...


Kraft is full of shit about being duped...


At least Jerruh Jones would admit to taking a chance on a questionable character and be honest about it when the shit didn't work out...

Now they just employ questionable quarterbacks

 

[HammerDown]

He's got a legacy to protect, if you have to lie even to fucking "dupe" your own fans. So be it. I don't care really. Who wouldnt in his situation? Maybe Mark Cuban, who would say, "thats right fuck face"?

Kraft is now being whispered in the same sentences with Cuban, Gilbert, Loria, etc. He's become a pariah and his hotline to the commissioner's office has suddenly turned into "Yes, Mr. Kraft. Like I told you sir, the commissioner is a very busy man and will get back to you as soon as he can."

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

That may just mean they didn't think he would be dumb enough to get caught..

Doesn't mean they did not know.. Why would they care if he cheated if they thought he could easily evade?

Maybe not knew as in 100% fact...but highly suspected at the time is still within the realm that makes sense..

Cashman wasn't the one that pushed this Contract, right?

Why would they care?

See my previous post

This isn't all about "getting away with it"

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

He's got a legacy to protect, if you have to lie even to fucking "dupe" your own fans. So be it. I don't care really. Who wouldnt in his situation? Maybe Mark Cuban, who would say, "thats right fuck face"?

This.

Cuban is the only owner in all the major sports that would actually flip off the media over something like this.

The rest of them are more conservative and are going to play it by the book.

 

[cerealboi]

When are the Lakers going to have Ron Metta World Peace arrested. He was in a gang, caused a huge brawl. I wonder who his victim will be. Maybe he murdered Jerry Buss.

 

[Mike Oxlodge]

To be fair, the Red Sox front office had no idea Manny and Ortiz were doing steroids.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

No...they were banking on his rampant steroid use would hold him together....

Steroids don't typically end a players career early...they tended to extend their primes longer...Yankees wanted that HR record back in pin stripes...they wanted to win at all costs...and took a gamble on Arod because if they lost him? 2009 doesn't happen.

So they just got burned by Giambi being a user, and "rolled the dice" on Arod being different?

If you think so, that's cool, I dont

 

[b_lake]

No, but that's not the point.

Him saying he was "duped" is absurd. He knew damn well who he was. HE WAS IN A FUCKING GANG!!!

He's obviously not the only owner who employs known gang members, but that's not the point either.

He's trying to act like an innocent victim in all of this when he knew exactly what a piece of shit Hernandez is/was.

And the defense of Kraft in this case is hilarious.

I for one think the attack on Kraft is just as hilarious...

I would expect something along the lines of what you all are suggesting for Jerruh Jones because that dude would have PIs following his players around and sweeping shit under the rug if needed...

With Kraft, I'm having a hard time making that connection...

 

[b_lake]

Now they just employ questionable quarterbacks

I fucking hate you, MD...

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

To be fair, the Red Sox front office had no idea Manny and Ortiz were doing steroids.

David Ortiz didn't juice

He just got real focused after losing a roster spot to Ron Fucking Coomer

 

[RedSoxWorrld]

No, but that's not the point.

Him saying he was "duped" is absurd. He knew damn well who he was. HE WAS IN A FUCKING GANG!!!

He's obviously not the only owner who employs known gang members, but that's not the point either.

He's trying to act like an innocent victim in all of this when he knew exactly what a piece of shit Hernandez is/was.

And the defense of Kraft in this case is hilarious.

the persecution of kraft is just as hilarious

and who knows how much he knew before all this came out about past allegations? So yeah, he could feel duped on a personal level.....but he said "we" and that is what makes it stupid

but that guy has been great for the team, the community and the NFL, so yeah, he gets a shit load of slack from me and others around here

i dont think he's being disingenuous at all, I think that is how he feels on a personal level

the problem is he spoke for the team

 

[b_lake]

When are the Lakers going to have Ron Metta World Peace arrested. He was in a gang, caused a huge brawl. I wonder who his victim will be. Maybe he murdered Jerry Buss.

Metta World Peace is probably on his way to Boston..Or Detroit...

Lakers will probably amnesty him...

 

[Rock Strongo]

To be fair, the Red Sox front office had no idea Manny and Ortiz were doing steroids.

im sure they did, like most teams

 

[Down38st8]

The gigantic elephant you are ignoring is that by time the Yankees signed him, every outed case of steroid use had proven to break down physically, and in his effectiveness as a player, Giambi, their own player being exhibit A

You do know that Giambi is still playing...right?

Examples of "every" steroid user breaking down early.

Barry bonds. 45 HR's, OPS north of 1.400 at 39 years old
Mcgwire: 135 HR's in 2 seasons from age 33-34
kevin Brown: 211 IP, a 2.39 ERA and All star appearance at 38 years old
Roger Clemens: 425 innings, pitched, a top 10 MVP finish, a CYA and a 3rd place finish to go along with a 2.43 ERA at ages 41-42...

Mariano Rivera...still pitching like he's 22....


Want some more that prove you're either lying, or the most uninformed baseball fan of the past 20 years?

Yes...there are examples of players breaking down early...there are significantly more that show that steroids extended players primes..

 

[Mike Oxlodge]

David Ortiz didn't juice

He just got real focused after losing a roster spot to Ron Fucking Coomer

He couldnt hit opposite field dumbass. So Boston signed him to be a dead pull hitter, even though, they had a wall 30 feet high 280 feet away he could tattoo opposite field.

 

[cerealboi]

When is Carmelo Anthony getting arrested for premurder? that's going to put a dent in the Knicks' chances.

 

[Down38st8]

David Ortiz didn't juice

He just got real focused after losing a roster spot to Ron Fucking Coomer

There is a shit ton less "evidence" that he juiced prior to 2003, and post 2003 as your boy that duped the yankees...

But we can ignore those facts...

 

[cerealboi]

Metta World Peace is probably on his way to Boston..Or Detroit...

Lakers will probably amnesty him...

Hopefully he takes a few of out before he leaves.

 

[b_lake]

When is Carmelo Anthony getting arrested for premurder? that's going to put a dent in the Knicks' chances.

I think J.R. Smith is a more likely candidate...

 

[Rock Strongo]

the chargers had to know ryan leaf would be a serial pain killer stealer and a felon