Lee signs 6 year extension

[Schmoopy1000]

Per Todd Archer on the dead network

"Lee signed a six-year extension Wednesday worth as much as $51 million, including a $10 million signing bonus, according to a source. The base value of the deal is $42 million. He will make a $630,000 base salary in 2013, and will have base salaries of $5.5 million (2014), $2.5 million ('15) and $3 million ('16), with $7 million base salaries from 2017 to 2019."

I don't see a lot of guaranteed money.

so they either redo his contract around 2017 or extend it. Using the years of 2017 to 2019 (right now) as a way to spread the signing bonus over those extra years here at the beginning to lessen the cap hit now. (is that way of thinking close to realistic?)

 

[tw1st3d]

so they either redo his contract around 2017 or extend it. Using the years of 2017 to 2019 (right now) as a way to spread the signing bonus over those extra years here at the beginning to lessen the cap hit now. (is that way of thinking close to realistic?)

read the contract... in order for him to make his full contract ... he had to be pro bowl every year. win the Superbowl every year... lead the league in tackles every year ...

He actually gets about half that ....

NICE DEAL .... Best Jerry resigning IMO ever

 

[Schmoopy1000]

read the contract... in order for him to make his full contract ... he had to be pro bowl every year. win the Superbowl every year... lead the league in tackles every year ...

He actually gets about half that ....

NICE DEAL .... Best Jerry resigning IMO ever

just going off the #'s manster gave me as a base. I dunno where the contract is to read.

 

[Sharkinva]

so they either redo his contract around 2017 or extend it. Using the years of 2017 to 2019 (right now) as a way to spread the signing bonus over those extra years here at the beginning to lessen the cap hit now. (is that way of thinking close to realistic?)

Schmoop... Not trying to be a dick here. But the Lee Deal officially means Dallas has close to $150 million committed to the cap next year. Even if the cap took a $7 million jump up to $130 million, the odds of this deal going more than two years without being reworked/extended is highly unlikely at this point.

Great for Dallas on the field if he can stay healthy, but that cap hole is getting deeper by the signing. Cap gymnastics is going to be the order of the day in Dallas for the foreseeable future. But I will say again, from an on field perspective, great move for Dallas.

 

[Manster7588]

so they either redo his contract around 2017 or extend it. Using the years of 2017 to 2019 (right now) as a way to spread the signing bonus over those extra years here at the beginning to lessen the cap hit now. (is that way of thinking close to realistic?)

Not sure they will need to extend him. If he stays healthy and is producing like many think he will his base salary and bonus with only be a little over 8M. The cap should, fingers crossed, raise plenty by then. I'm more concerned with what Dez's contract will look like. He's hitting the market in 2015, at this moment that year looks to be our biggest cap problem year. Notice Lee base contract goes from 5.5M in "14" down to 2.5 in "15". I'd say this is a team friendly deal. Jerry may have lost a few million from his wallet near Lee's locker.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

Schmoop... Not trying to be a dick here. But the Lee Deal officially means Dallas has close to $150 million committed to the cap next year. Even if the cap took a $7 million jump up to $130 million, the odds of this deal going more than two years without being reworked/extended is highly unlikely at this point.

Great for Dallas on the field if he can stay healthy, but that cap hole is getting deeper by the signing. Cap gymnastics is going to be the order of the day in Dallas for the foreseeable future. But I will say again, from an on field perspective, great move for Dallas.

I don't think anyone disagreeing with me on the cap thing is a dick. I'll be the 1st to tell anyone, I am not a capologist. I am pretty clueless to how it all works. I just try to guess & make sense about the #'s & length of contracts & such. I just figure by 2017 if none of those #'s are guaranteed we could walk away scott free, & if Lee is still kickin' ass then we could redo it so the #'s aren't as high (if needed) It seems like a likeable contract for the boys. Kinda like Lee was being a team player. I am sure if he had a good year this year he could have demanded much more.
(was just curious if I was close on my thinking)

 

[Sharkinva]

I don't think anyone disagreeing with me on the cap thing is a dick. I'll be the 1st to tell anyone, I am not a capologist. I am pretty clueless to how it all works. I just try to guess & make sense about the #'s & length of contracts & such. I just figure by 2017 if none of those #'s are guaranteed we could walk away scott free, & if Lee is still kickin' ass then we could redo it so the #'s aren't as high (if needed) It seems like a likeable contract for the boys. Kinda like Lee was being a team player. I am sure if he had a good year this year he could have demanded much more.
(was just curious if I was close on my thinking)

You are right on the 2017 thing. But the real problem is 2014 and 2015 where dallas is currently set to carry $150 million and $142 million respectively. Considering that the cap right now is $123, its safe to say it wont go over $130 in 2014, which means Dallas needs to clear $20 million plus next year. Leads me to think that by year two they will have no choice but to rework this deal and either roll base salary into bonus, or extend him, maybe both. You guys wont have to have a fire sale and start cutting guys, but Jerry is digging you deeper and deeper into a cap hole.

Im curious to see if he tries to get Dez done this year as well with the cap space thats left.

 

[Manster7588]

Schmoop... Not trying to be a dick here. But the Lee Deal officially means Dallas has close to $150 million committed to the cap next year. Even if the cap took a $7 million jump up to $130 million, the odds of this deal going more than two years without being reworked/extended is highly unlikely at this point.

Great for Dallas on the field if he can stay healthy, but that cap hole is getting deeper by the signing. Cap gymnastics is going to be the order of the day in Dallas for the foreseeable future. But I will say again, from an on field perspective, great move for Dallas.

Nets has us in a lot better cap situation than you do. I really don't know whos right or wrong, but as a Cowboy's fan I'll trust Nets numbers and keep my fingers crossed. That and head down to Walmart to buy a rabbits foot.

 

[Manster7588]

Shark, Now be honest. You were hoping Lee was in Washington next year. Weren't you?

 

[Sharkinva]

Nets has us in a lot better cap situation than you do. I really don't know who right or wrong, but as a Cowboy's fan I'll trust Nets numbers and keep my fingers crossed. That and head down to Walmart to buy a rabbits foot.

Manster... Nets and I actually agree on the numbers and how you can clear space. the only place we disagree is that Dallas will have to pay the piper at some point. Nets has you clearing space by reworking deals, which I expect will have to happen. But I dont expect these guys to simply take pay cuts to help out the team. Players rarely do.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

You are right on the 2017 thing. But the real problem is 2014 and 2015 where dallas is currently set to carry $150 million and $142 million respectively. Considering that the cap right now is $123, its safe to say it wont go over $130 in 2014, which means Dallas needs to clear $20 million plus next year. Leads me to think that by year two they will have no choice but to rework this deal and either roll base salary into bonus, or extend him, maybe both. You guys wont have to have a fire sale and start cutting guys, but Jerry is digging you deeper and deeper into a cap hole.

Im curious to see if he tries to get Dez done this year as well with the cap space thats left.

well keep in mind next year we will be in a better position to release some other players or rework some other players deals (not necessarily Lee's) for 2015.
I do know this though & no offense to you, but skins fans & some others will come in & tell me as far as the future cap, the sky is falling, I say oh shit look at our capologists & say hey dude, is the sky falling & they explain in a bit more detail why in fact the sky isn't falling & I relax & tell you the sky isn't falling
So I will wait til my resident Capologists say oh shit we are in trouble LOL. But I do appreciate when you guys come on raising these questions, because that is usually how I get answers to questions I don't know to ask

 

[Sharkinva]

Shark, Now be honest. You were hoping Lee was in Washington next year. Weren't you?

Honestly... not really. He has missed 13 games the last three years. Did I want Dallas to resign him?? Not really. But I really wasnt pressed to have him. Love the contract though.

 

[jarntt]

You are right on the 2017 thing. But the real problem is 2014 and 2015 where dallas is currently set to carry $150 million and $142 million respectively. Considering that the cap right now is $123, its safe to say it wont go over $130 in 2014, which means Dallas needs to clear $20 million plus next year. Leads me to think that by year two they will have no choice but to rework this deal and either roll base salary into bonus, or extend him, maybe both. You guys wont have to have a fire sale and start cutting guys, but Jerry is digging you deeper and deeper into a cap hole.

Im curious to see if he tries to get Dez done this year as well with the cap space thats left.

Where do you get $150M for next year from? Getting under the cap in any one year is easy. Not kicking the can down the road is the problem I'm concerned about. This contract won't be the cause of that problem. It is a smart and needed move. Romo's and some of the other ones are the head scratchers. This is just a smart move.

 

[Sharkinva]

Where do you get $150M for next year from? Getting under the cap in any one year is easy. Not kicking the can down the road is the problem I'm concerned about. This contract won't be the cause of that problem. It is a smart and needed move. Romo's and some of the other ones are the head scratchers. This is just a smart move.

http://overthecap.com/nfl-cap-space2.php?Year=2014

This shows what each team has dedicated to the cap in 2014 so far. This money only counts base salary, signing bonus, and any misc guaranteed money.

Or you could take this one.

Dallas Cowboys - 2014 Salary Cap Breakdown


But they havent accounted for Lee's $7.5 million cap number in 2014 yet.

And what Dallas is doing is basically kicking the can down the road.

 

[snookdad]

Nets what kinda contract does Dez get? Can Jerry make it work and still be able to be competitive? Do we have to likely choose between Dez and Tyron Smith? I know you are not employed by the Cowboys but, you seem to have a solid understanding of the cap.

 

[Eastbay]

Nets what kinda contract does Dez get? Can Jerry make it work and still be able to be competitive? Do we have to likely choose between Dez and Tyron Smith? I know you are not employed by the Cowboys but, you seem to have a solid understanding of the c[/I]


I am no capologist but what I do know is Jerry ALWAYS gets his man I ain't got no worries.......

 

[snookdad]

100%

 

[Kevin12773]

Shark, Now be honest. You were hoping Lee was in Washington next year. Weren't you?

I can't speak for shark but I would've liked to see him in burgandy and gold. Oh well time to look elsewhere for London's replacement.

 

[Sharkinva]

I can't speak for shark but I would've liked to see him in burgandy and gold. Oh well time to look elsewhere for London's replacement.

Kev... look no further than Will Compton. He wont make anything more than practice squad this season. But kid is money.

 

[Kevin12773]

Nets what kinda contract does Dez get? Can Jerry make it work and still be able to be competitive? Do we have to likely choose between Dez and Tyron Smith? I know you are not employed by the Cowboys but, you seem to have a solid understanding of the c[/I]


I am no capologist but what I do know is Jerry ALWAYS gets his man I ain't got no worries.......

Isn't that kinda the problem... Jerry always gets his man but is it the "right" man?