SportsChic
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Lets be real. None of the superstars prior to this generation had access to voice their opinion while laying in bed. Almost everything they did was scripted and planned for in advance. Nowadays if an athlete scratches his ass and wants the world to know, he can put it out there without any of his handlers there to filter it.
What do you mean? Almost everyday we hear about stupid or personal stuff voiced by superstars on social media. I agree that they shouldn't do it but for some reason it doesn't make or break my day. I dont think its so much people are defending Lebron. Its more like "get a life" if that is truly bothering you that much he made himself look dumb or petty.And at some point, either the superstar or his handlers need to be smart enough to figure out that maybe social media isn't all that great and they should think before posting.
Additionally, there are other superstars who have access to that same social media and you never see or hear anything out of them.
Folks can defend Lebron or whoever, all they want, but the fact is, if a player is going to go on social media and do or say something stupid or classless (or at least perceived that way) they are going to get ripped for it. It works both ways.
What do you mean? Almost everyday we hear about stupid or personal stuff voiced by superstars on social media. I agree that they shouldn't do it but for some reason it doesn't make or break my day. I dont think its so much people are defending Lebron. Its more like "get a life" if that is truly bothering you that much he made himself look dumb or petty.
More like "he couldn't have if he wanted to".....He signed a 5yr guaranteed contract (including 2 team option years after that) his rookie year. His contract was terminated in Sept. 1988 in favor of a new one Chicago offered. He signed for 8yrs 25mil. Plus there was no free agency rule in the NBA until the summer of 1989.Wouldn't have been something if Jordan went to Detroit because shit wasn't getting done in Chicago? Oh wait, he didn't have to as he spent his off season time playing one on one with Pippen to hone each others skills and also spent his time making the players around him better.
.............Bosh single handily took the Toronto Raptors to multiple playoff appearances. Seen the Raptors without Bosh?
Wade already won a title and is still one of the top guards in the league. LeBron adds the 3rd all star.
Ray Allen is a historic 3 pt shooter.
Very simple, Ray Allen could be 50 years old and still play for Miami, all he has to do is camp on the parimeter. LeBron drives, if Allens man comes to help out LeBron dishes it to the greatest 3 pt shooter the league has ever seen.
Stacked roster.
Now if LeBron was able to bring Wade and bosh or other all stars to Cleveland it would be a different story. The fact that LeBron left is what doesn't put him or never will put him on the level of Jordan and others.
Bosh and Allen played a combined 48mins in game 7 and scored ZERO points. Add Mike Miller's 19mins and the 3 combined to score ZERO points..............Bosh single handily took the Toronto Raptors to multiple playoff appearances. Seen the Raptors without Bosh?
Wade already won a title and is still one of the top guards in the league. LeBron adds the 3rd all star.
Ray Allen is a historic 3 pt shooter.
Very simple, Ray Allen could be 50 years old and still play for Miami, all he has to do is camp on the parimeter. LeBron drives, if Allens man comes to help out LeBron dishes it to the greatest 3 pt shooter the league has ever seen.
Stacked roster.
I wasn't blaming the medium. Ultimately, the responsibility lies with the person doing it. Twitter did not wake Lebron up and make him do it. i was just speaking to your point that past superstars did not do it. I get the respect thing but I don't think all people consider sports as something deserving of respect since its all really just a game. In its purest form it is just entertainment. The people that truly respect it for more than that are the ones that actually played it. They understand it. Everyone hating on Lebron did not play it so I dont think the respect thing applies. Too me Lebron is the embodiment of the freedom they wish they had. People hate having their sad lives shown to them even in a subconscious way. They have issues with him leaving Cleveland on national TV but if someone paid them a tenth of what Lebron donated to charities to fire their boss on national TV they would do it in a heartbeat. It just smacks of jealousy. I already liked Lebron prior to that but seeing all the hate made me root for him even more because I know the feeling.I didn't say "none of them" do it. I said there are other superstars who don't. When was the last time you saw guys like Tim Duncan or Peyton Manning (to name a couple) posting anything like that on any social media?
As for "get a life". How about that maybe people who are fans of the sport and/or the league above their team, not liking the fact that it makes the league look bad? Some athlete posting something idiotic on social media or getting caught doing something stupid by someone with a camera phone doesn't make or break my day, but it does make me think that it looks bad for the league and the sport.
Seems like when some of these guys do it, people want to blame the medium and/or tell others that they need to "get a life" rather than just accept that the ultimate responsibility lies with the athlete who did it.
Back when we were on cbs and Andrew Bynum was filmed parking in the freaking handicapped parking spot. I was bashed Andrew Bynum, not the person with the camera.
Although, given how much he's played since then, maybe he was parking there legitimately after all!!![]()
I didn't say "none of them" do it. I said there are other superstars who don't. When was the last time you saw guys like Tim Duncan or Peyton Manning (to name a couple) posting anything like that on any social media?
As for "get a life". How about that maybe people who are fans of the sport and/or the league above their team, not liking the fact that it makes the league look bad? Some athlete posting something idiotic on social media or getting caught doing something stupid by someone with a camera phone doesn't make or break my day, but it does make me think that it looks bad for the league and the sport.
Seems like when some of these guys do it, people want to blame the medium and/or tell others that they need to "get a life" rather than just accept that the ultimate responsibility lies with the athlete who did it.
Back when we were on cbs and Andrew Bynum was filmed parking in the freaking handicapped parking spot. I was bashed Andrew Bynum, not the person with the camera.
Although, given how much he's played since then, maybe he was parking there legitimately after all!!![]()
When was the last time you saw Peyton Manning or Tim Duncan getting unfairly/over the top criticized and scrutinized for every single thing they do? When you overcome all of that hate and come out on top, it's hard not to look back at all the haters and give them a taste of their own medicine. Good for LBJ.
If people just decided to start hating on Lebron for no reason, you might have a point. However, that is not the case. Personally, I was a little bit of a Lebron fan prior to The Decision. I liked the idea of a kid from Ohio trying to take his hometown team to heights they had never achieved.
However, The Decision left a bad taste in my mouth as I found it distasteful and it made him appear as though he thought he was bigger than the game. By itself, The Decision, wasn't that big of a deal. But when you add to it, the not 1, not 2, not 3.....etc., the attempt to confiscate the video of him getting dunked on, the way that he tried to blame others for the way that The Decision was received, the disrespectful way that he and D-Wade made fun of Dirk in the finals and it all adds up to Lebron bringing much of the hate on himself. Now he posts that video. It seems like every time things start to "move on" Lebron does or says something else to stir it back up again.
And before you start telling folks that "it's time to move on", first, it's not up to Heat fans and Lebroniacs to decide how long someone is allowed to "hate on" Lebron or what the acceptable reasons are. Laker fans get to see and hear Kobe called a rapist even though he wasn't convicted and it happened alot longer ago than The Decision.
In short, Lebron is not the "victim" that some of you want to make him out to be.
However, The Decision left a bad taste in my mouth as I found it distasteful and it made him appear as though he thought he was bigger than the game. By itself, The Decision, wasn't that big of a deal. But when you add to it, the not 1, not 2, not 3.....etc., the attempt to confiscate the video of him getting dunked on, the way that he tried to blame others for the way that The Decision was received, the disrespectful way that he and D-Wade made fun of Dirk in the finals and it all adds up to Lebron bringing much of the hate on himself. Now he posts that video. It seems like every time things start to "move on" Lebron does or says something else to stir it back up again.
But wouldn't that fall under the category of a "you problem" and not a Lebron problem? If it was an issue with Lebron everyone would hate him. The fact that there is not a consensus shows that its a perception problem which always stems from individual bias and issues.
First of all, nothing you said really addresses the original point I made about Manning or Duncan, but I'll still play.
The Decision was a bad move, but people hate it at face value without actually thinking about it. He was 25 years old and had his agent and the largest sports network in the world in his ear about doing this, with the added bonus that doing it would raise millions for charity. I'd do it, and so would likely any other person in his situation. Lebron has since come out and apologized for it saying he regrets it, so how many more years are people really going to hold this against him? It was 3 years ago, and it's not like he did some horrible thing like r*pe. Let it go.
Don't try and act like Lebron was some naive 25 year old kid that was suddenly thrust in the spotlight and didn't know how to handle it. Lebron has been in the public eye since he was 13 years old and Sport Illustrated tabbed him as the next great player. He had 12 years of experience with media exposure by the time he was 25. As for the charity angle, not buying it. Charity was an afterthought. The kids were stuck in the back of the stage watching, just like the rest of us. There was no spotlight on the charitable organization, there was nothing about what they do or what Lebron had already done for them. The whole thing was centered around Lebron.
As for r*pe and "let it go". Thank you for proving my point.
Secondly, I agree on the Dirk thing. That was tacky and distasteful and, honestly, not becoming of his character. However, the "Not 1, not 2..." thing was fine. He was trying to bring some excitement to a fanbase that was pretty damn lame up until then. If he came to your team and did the same thing, you wouldn't mind.
The problem with the not 1, not 2, etc. was how it came off. I understand that it was supposed to a "private party" with the big 3 and 25,000 or so Heat fans at the arena, but it was televised. When you choose to televise something, it is no longer private. If I were a Heat fan, I sure as heck don't want to hear him say "Gee, I hope I can win a championship while I'm here", however, he came off like he thought it was going to be easy and that was disrespectful to the game and the other teams.
Lastly, Cleveland is not his hometown team. He's from Akron, and he didn't even grow up a Cavs fan. After all he did to make the Cavs all the money that he did to go along with all the exposure, he owed them nothing. I am a Cavs fan, so I was disappointed to see him leave, but he gave Cavs fans the most exciting 7 years in the team's history, so I'm not mad at him. It's business and he did what he thought would be the best for him and his family. You can't fault a guy for that unless you're just a petty person.
Well, he made them his hometown team when he said: "I have a dream and it's a big one. I want to bring a championship to Cleveland and I won't stop until that happens". I have no problem with him leaving Cleveland. From what I've seen and heard, the only people that are in Cleveland don't know that they are allowed to leave. It's the way he did it amd the way he acted for a good year after he left and things like this video that I don't like. It's unnecessary. The guy is the best player in the world. Shouldn't that be enough?
Overall, he's a good person. He doesn't get into trouble with the law, he isn't out fucking everything that moves, he's a good father and he does a HELL of a lot of stuff for Akron, which I like being that I live here and the city needs it. When you're on top, there are always going to be people hating you for your success. This video is a shining example of that.
But wouldn't that fall under the category of a "you problem" and not a Lebron problem? If it was an issue with Lebron everyone would hate him. The fact that there is not a consensus shows that its a perception problem which always stems from individual bias and issues.
First of all, nothing you said really addresses the original point I made about Manning or Duncan, but I'll still play.