LBJ Will be the GOAT

[BOTSLAYER]

@Sman, the wonderful thing about stats is just like science, they are true whether you believe them or not.

 

[LALakersboy24.7]

@Sman, the wonderful thing about stats is just like science, they are true whether you believe them or not.

Does this mean these numbers are true ?

Kobe in the playoffs
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2001 2nd Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs Sacramento Kings*
35.0 ppg 9.0 rpg 4.3 apg 47%fg 20%3P 86%FT*
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2001 3rd Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs San Antonio Spurs*
33.3 ppg 7.0 rpg 7.0 apg 51%fg 36%3P 77%FT*
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2003 1st Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs Minnesota Timberwolves*
31.8 ppg 5.2 rpg 6.7 apg 43%fg 36%3P 87%FT*
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2008 1st Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs Denver Nuggets*
33.5 ppg 5.3 rpg 6.3 apg 50%fg 33%3P 74%FT*
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2008 2nd Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs Utah Jazz*
33.2 ppg 7.0 rpg 7.2 apg 49%fg 21%3P 83%FT*
*
2008 3rd Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs San Antonio Spurs*
29.2 ppg 5.6 rpg 3.8 apg 53%fg 33%3P 91%FT*
*
2009 3rd Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs Denver Nuggets*
34.0 ppg 5.8 rpg 5.8 apg 48%fg 34%3P 93%FT*
*
2009 NBA Finals Kobe Bryant vs Orlando Magic*
32.4 ppg 5.6 rpg 7.4 apg 43%fg 36%3P 84%FT*
*
2010 2nd Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs Utah Jazz*
32.0 ppg 3.8 rpg 5.8 apg 52%fg 25%3P 87%FT*
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2010 3rd Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs Phoenix Suns*
33.7ppg 7.2 rpg 8.3 apg 52%fg 43%3P 88%FT*

2000-01 Championship season *
Reg. Season Averages *
Kobe 28.5 PPG / 5.9 RB / 5 APG *
Shaq 28.7 PPG / 12.7 RB / 3.7 APG *
Playoff Averages *
Kobe 29.4 PPG / 7.3 RB / 6.1 APG *
Shaq 30.4 PPG / 15.4 RB / 3.2 APG *
*
2001-02 Championship season *
Reg. Season Averages *
Kobe 25.2 PPG / 5.5 RB / 5.5 APG *
Shaq 27.2 PPG / 10.7 RB / 3 APG *
Playoff Averages *
Kobe 26.6 PPG / 5.8 RB / 4.6 APG *
Shaq 28.5 PPG / 12.6 RB / 2.8 APG *
*
2002-03 season *
Reg. Season Averages *
Kobe 30 PPG / 6.9 RB / 5.9 APG *
Shaq 27.5 PPG / 11.1 RB / 3.1 APG *
Playoff Averages *
Kobe 32.1 PPG / 5.1 RB / 5.2 APG *
Shaq 27 PPG / 14.8 RB / 3.7 APG *
*
2003-04 season *
Reg. Season Averages *
Kobe 24 PPG / 5.5 RB / 5.1 APG *
Shaq 21.5 PPG / 11.5 RB / 2.9 APG *
Playoff Averages *
Kobe 24.5 PPG / 4.7 RB / 5.5 APG *
Shaq 21.5 PPG / 13.2 RB / 2.5 AP

2000 Western Conference Finals Game 7 *
Kobe- 25pts, 11rbs, 7asts, 4blks *
Shaq- 18pts, 9rbs, 5asts, 1blk *
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2001 Western Conference Semifinals *
Kobe- 35ppg, 9rpg, 5apg *
Shaq- 32ppg, 17rpg, 3apg *
*
2001 Western Conference Finals *
Kobe- 33ppg, 7rpg, 7apg *
Shaq- 27ppg, 13rg, 2apg *
*
2002 Western Conference 1rst round *
Kobe- 27ppg, 6rpg, 5apg *
Shaq- 25ppg, 11rpg, 3apg *
*
2002 Western Conference Semifinals *
Kobe- 27ppg, 5rpg, 5apg *
Shaq- 21ppg, 12rpg, 2apg *
*
2009 Western Conference Finals *
Kobe- 34ppg, 6rpg, 5apg *
Gasol- 17ppg, 12rpg, 3apg *
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2009 Nba Finals *
Kobe- 32ppg, 6rpg, 7apg *
Gasol- 18ppg, 9rpg, 2apg *
*
2010 Western Conference Finals *
Kobe- 33ppg, 7rpg, 8apg *
Gasol- 19ppg, 7rpg, 3apg *
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2010 NBA Finals *
Kobe- 29ppg, 8rpg, 4apg *
Gasol- 18ppg, 11rpg, 3apg *
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[BOTSLAYER]

Top accomplishments Kobe and Jordan will never achieve*

blah blah blah, because Kobe and MJ never missed a shot, well Kobe missed one, But just one and MJ never missed a shot.

Comparing the Olympics medals and other stuff is irrelevant due to the evolution of basketball.

Same with most of the other stuff you mentioned which is mostly just short cited and hypocritical.

How many series did MJ get romped by the pistons? They changed the rules so MJ would beat them FFS.

 

[Black Adam]

blah blah blah, because Kobe and MJ never missed a shot, well Kobe missed one, But just one and MJ never missed a shot.

Comparing the Olympics medals and other stuff is irrelevant due to the evolution of basketball.

Same with most of the other stuff you mentioned which is mostly just short cited and hypocritical.

How many series did MJ get romped by the pistons? They changed the rules so MJ would beat them FFS.

Translation:" all depends on WHO's numbers you wanna get behind". Having said that, numbers don't lie, but they don't tell ALL the story sometimes, either...

 

[BOTSLAYER]

Translation:" all depends on WHO's numbers you wanna get behind". Having said that, numbers don't lie, but they don't tell ALL the story sometimes, either...

I completely agree with this.

 

[Jims_Doors]

Does this mean these numbers are true ?

Kobe in the playoffs
*
2001 2nd Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs Sacramento Kings*
35.0 ppg 9.0 rpg 4.3 apg 47%fg 20%3P 86%FT*
*
2001 3rd Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs San Antonio Spurs*
33.3 ppg 7.0 rpg 7.0 apg 51%fg 36%3P 77%FT*
*
2003 1st Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs Minnesota Timberwolves*
31.8 ppg 5.2 rpg 6.7 apg 43%fg 36%3P 87%FT*
*
2008 1st Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs Denver Nuggets*
33.5 ppg 5.3 rpg 6.3 apg 50%fg 33%3P 74%FT*
*
2008 2nd Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs Utah Jazz*
33.2 ppg 7.0 rpg 7.2 apg 49%fg 21%3P 83%FT*
*
2008 3rd Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs San Antonio Spurs*
29.2 ppg 5.6 rpg 3.8 apg 53%fg 33%3P 91%FT*
*
2009 3rd Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs Denver Nuggets*
34.0 ppg 5.8 rpg 5.8 apg 48%fg 34%3P 93%FT*
*
2009 NBA Finals Kobe Bryant vs Orlando Magic*
32.4 ppg 5.6 rpg 7.4 apg 43%fg 36%3P 84%FT*
*
2010 2nd Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs Utah Jazz*
32.0 ppg 3.8 rpg 5.8 apg 52%fg 25%3P 87%FT*
*
2010 3rd Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs Phoenix Suns*
33.7ppg 7.2 rpg 8.3 apg 52%fg 43%3P 88%FT*

2000-01 Championship season *
Reg. Season Averages *
Kobe 28.5 PPG / 5.9 RB / 5 APG *
Shaq 28.7 PPG / 12.7 RB / 3.7 APG *
Playoff Averages *
Kobe 29.4 PPG / 7.3 RB / 6.1 APG *
Shaq 30.4 PPG / 15.4 RB / 3.2 APG *
*
2001-02 Championship season *
Reg. Season Averages *
Kobe 25.2 PPG / 5.5 RB / 5.5 APG *
Shaq 27.2 PPG / 10.7 RB / 3 APG *
Playoff Averages *
Kobe 26.6 PPG / 5.8 RB / 4.6 APG *
Shaq 28.5 PPG / 12.6 RB / 2.8 APG *
*
2002-03 season *
Reg. Season Averages *
Kobe 30 PPG / 6.9 RB / 5.9 APG *
Shaq 27.5 PPG / 11.1 RB / 3.1 APG *
Playoff Averages *
Kobe 32.1 PPG / 5.1 RB / 5.2 APG *
Shaq 27 PPG / 14.8 RB / 3.7 APG *
*
2003-04 season *
Reg. Season Averages *
Kobe 24 PPG / 5.5 RB / 5.1 APG *
Shaq 21.5 PPG / 11.5 RB / 2.9 APG *
Playoff Averages *
Kobe 24.5 PPG / 4.7 RB / 5.5 APG *
Shaq 21.5 PPG / 13.2 RB / 2.5 AP

2000 Western Conference Finals Game 7 *
Kobe- 25pts, 11rbs, 7asts, 4blks *
Shaq- 18pts, 9rbs, 5asts, 1blk *
*
2001 Western Conference Semifinals *
Kobe- 35ppg, 9rpg, 5apg *
Shaq- 32ppg, 17rpg, 3apg *
*
2001 Western Conference Finals *
Kobe- 33ppg, 7rpg, 7apg *
Shaq- 27ppg, 13rg, 2apg *
*
2002 Western Conference 1rst round *
Kobe- 27ppg, 6rpg, 5apg *
Shaq- 25ppg, 11rpg, 3apg *
*
2002 Western Conference Semifinals *
Kobe- 27ppg, 5rpg, 5apg *
Shaq- 21ppg, 12rpg, 2apg *
*
2009 Western Conference Finals *
Kobe- 34ppg, 6rpg, 5apg *
Gasol- 17ppg, 12rpg, 3apg *
*
2009 Nba Finals *
Kobe- 32ppg, 6rpg, 7apg *
Gasol- 18ppg, 9rpg, 2apg *
*
2010 Western Conference Finals *
Kobe- 33ppg, 7rpg, 8apg *
Gasol- 19ppg, 7rpg, 3apg *
*
2010 NBA Finals *
Kobe- 29ppg, 8rpg, 4apg *
Gasol- 18ppg, 11rpg, 3apg *
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Wow.....all those stat examples but yet only 2 are from the Finals. Everyone knows that there's the "playoffs" and then there's the "Finals." That's why there's a "Finals MVP" awarded to a player and not a "playoff MVP."

So it's no surprise that you didn't give more examples since Kobe is a career 41% shooter in the Finals. It's already known that he's only really had 2 good Finals which was in 2001 and 2009.

Plus..... you can post all the postseason stats you want, but Kobe will still have no "remember when Kobe" moments in his postseason career.

 

[HuskerCradle2Grave]

ESPN is entertainment, not news.The biggest reason LBJ will be considered GOAT is due to marketing and money. Everyone wants to say they watched the GOAT.

They create controversy which sells ads. Now they are creating the image of LBJ the GOAT because that is going to sell more ads.

Story checks out.

All things equal LBJ is better than MJ and it is not close. MJ has scoring, LBJ has every thing else. Neither are better or greater than Kareem though.

Just for starters look at playoff numbers. Leflop gets worse as he gets deeper into the playoffs. MJ? Played his best games in the finals. That is the true sign of the GOAT...

 

[BOTSLAYER]

Provide stats or credible evidence or gtfo.

 

[RoboticDreams]

Basketball boards are the least rational boards on this site. Hell, every site I have ever been on. Why is that?

 

[trojanfan12]

blah blah blah, because Kobe and MJ never missed a shot, well Kobe missed one, But just one and MJ never missed a shot.

That's why MJ ranks ahead of Kobe as GOAT, Kobe missed a shot once!!

 

[trojanfan12]

Basketball boards are the least rational boards on this site. Hell, every site I have ever been on. Why is that?

Because of the irrational Heat fans and Lebroniacs!! It's all their fault!!

 

[Black Adam]

Because of the irrational Heat fans and Lebroniacs!! It's all their fault!!

I'm CL67, and I APPROVE this post...

 

[shitsho]

I would love to see Lebron top MJ but I dont think he will have enough time or he may get injured. The issue with the rings weighs heavily in peoples minds and this is where the time or injury element comes in. He's going to have to do some pretty exceptional stuff to override the moments MJ brought and MJ's story. MJ is probably the greatest story in the history of sports.

 

[Jims_Doors]

I would love to see Lebron top MJ but I dont think he will have enough time or he may get injured. The issue with the rings weighs heavily in peoples minds and this is where the time or injury element comes in. He's going to have to do some pretty exceptional stuff to override the moments MJ brought and MJ's story. MJ is probably the greatest story in the history of sports.

Kurt Warner might have something to say about that.

 

[shitsho]

Kurt Warner might have something to say about that.

i dont know his story.

 

[piss-tons]

i dont know his story.

Read up on it because its fucking awesome

 

[shitsho]

Read up on it because its fucking awesome

You got any recommendations? i just looked on Wikki and the only thing that really stood out to me was that he was undrafted.

 

[HuskerCradle2Grave]

Provide stats or credible evidence or gtfo.

First ten years in the league for an apples to apples comparison...
Michael Jordan – (3 NBA Finals – 17 games): 36.0ppg, 53.06 FG%, 7.2rpg, 8.06apg, 2.06spg, 0.8bpg, 44.3 3PT %, 81.1 FT%

LeBron James – (4 NBA Finals – 22 games): 23.2ppg, 43.8 FG%, 9.0rpg, 7.0apg, 1.72spg, 0.59bpg, 26.5 3PT %, 72.7% FT

 

[HurricaneDij39]

If Lebron could average 37 pts he would average 37 pts, ASSWIPE...That's like saying centers like McGee and Jordan (clippers) could average 40 pts a night if they shot 25 times because they shot 60 pct from the field...L

Look you fucking retard, the reason they shoot high from the field is because they only shoot about 6 times a game when they're completely wide open under the hoop...

Learn the game, Botslayer. You're looking like a school girl with a crush on Lebron...Firm up. This site is for men, not little faggots.

Peace!!

Owned.

 

[BOTSLAYER]

First ten years in the league for an apples to apples comparison...
Michael Jordan – (3 NBA Finals – 17 games): 36.0ppg, 53.06 FG%, 7.2rpg, 8.06apg, 2.06spg, 0.8bpg, 44.3 3PT %, 81.1 FT%

LeBron James – (4 NBA Finals – 22 games): 23.2ppg, 43.8 FG%, 9.0rpg, 7.0apg, 1.72spg, 0.59bpg, 26.5 3PT %, 72.7% FT

MJ was never in the finals at 22 with no supporting cast so it is hardly a apples to apples is it?

Why don't you look up game 7 averages? Game 7 is as far as you can go and when everything is on the line iirc?