Lakers Off-Season Thread

[trojanfan12]

IDK. Both of these deals have now been revealed to have no team options and both players will be on the downsides of their careers in 4 years. This means that if they cut either player because of whatever, they eat the rest of the contract. First they overpaid for both IMO. Then they have to continue to pay if they get rid of either player. Seems to me, this is just not being judicious and efficient and wasting money. IMO, they could have done a bit better but I get that they are now no longer elite and are gambling a bit again.

It really doesn't matter about options on those contracts. If they need to move them after year 3, there will be teams looking to trade for expiring contracts. That can actually a better option than a team option anyway because they'll at lest get a draft pick in return for letting them go.

 

[wildturkey]

It really doesn't matter about options on those contracts. If they need to move them after year 3, there will be teams looking to trade for expiring contracts. That can actually a better option than a team option anyway because they'll at lest get a draft pick in return for letting them go.

This is nonsense. Options DO matter. A team option would be best. They have 100% control over the player. They can rid themselves of the contract without being at the whim of a possibly nonexistent trade market for said player. What's better? Having total control or being at the mercy of some other team and praying they have assets to make it work? And teams are not giving up picks for expiring deals anymore. The picks are too valuable. Like I said in the Mozgov thread, this line of thought is completely wishful thinking and does not jive with the current state of how things operate in the NBA. This isn't 2008. It's far harder to move contracts like that. The value isn't there.

 

[trojanfan12]

his isn't 2008. It's far harder to move contracts like that. The value isn't there.

Yet every season, teams are taking on other teams bad contracts.

 

[wildturkey]

Yet every season, teams are taking on other teams bad contracts.

No, they aren't. When is the last time you saw a team taking on a huge contract to shed cap space and the other team getting real value in return?

 

[trojanfan12]

No, they aren't. When is the last time you saw a team taking on a huge contract to shed cap space and the other team getting real value in return?

Actually, they are.

 

[wildturkey]

Actually, they are.

Yet you provided none.

 

[trojanfan12]

Yet you provided none.

Nor will I. I'm not getting into this discussion with you because I can already tell from the tone of your posts that this is one of those topics where you are going to get into your namecalling and insults.

 

[wildturkey]

Nor will I. I'm not getting into this discussion with you because I can already tell from the tone of your posts that this is one of those topics where you are going to get into your namecalling and insults.

You won't because you can't. They don't exist anymore the way you think they do. Now you're just trying to take some imaginary high road instead of admitting you might be wrong.

 

[trojanfan12]

You won't because you can't. They don't exist anymore the way you think they do. Now you're just trying to take some imaginary high road instead of admitting you might be wrong.

Thank you for proving my point.

 

[wildturkey]

Thank you for proving my point.

What point?

 

[trojanfan12]

What point?

So, you missed it.

 

[wildturkey]

So, you missed it.

Sure. Clue me in. All I see what you typically do when someone questions a point you made and you box yourself in, you deflect. Instead of supporting yourself or just walking away leaving it be, you try to make the conversation about the "argument" and not the content of what was being talked about.

So you've got two options; talk about the expirings or just keep going in circles hoping the whole thing is forgotten

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

No, they aren't. When is the last time you saw a team taking on a huge contract to shed cap space and the other team getting real value in return?

The Lakers alone took on Nash, Lin and Hibbert these last few years, didn't they?

 

[DJ Fieri]

I'm convinced @wildturkey likes to argue just for the sake of arguing.

 

[DJ Fieri]

The Lakers’ Offseason Plan Actually Makes Sense — The Ringer

Here's a really good article on the Lakers FA. Very unlikely they make the playoffs but I seriously think 35-38 wins is possible and that would show drastic improvement. Max I could see us winning is 40 games.

And that would make us more appealing to free agents next summer.

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

The Lakers’ Offseason Plan Actually Makes Sense — The Ringer

Here's a really good article on the Lakers FA. Very unlikely they make the playoffs but I seriously think 35-38 wins is possible and that would show drastic improvement. Max I could see us winning is 40 games.

And that would make us more appealing to free agents next summer.

i.e. Westbrook

 

[DJ Fieri]

i.e. Westbrook

Yerp. And I'd be willing to flip Russell and a 1st round pick to them in a sign and trade for Westbrook so OKC gets something in return for him.

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

Yerp. And I'd be willing to flip Russell and a 1st round pick to them in a sign and trade for Westbrook so OKC gets something in return for him.

I think it all depends on Durant's decision. If he leaves OKC I don't see Westbrook staying either and the Thunder would be smart to trade him.

 

[DJ Fieri]

I think it all depends on Durant's decision. If he leaves OKC I don't see Westbrook staying either and the Thunder would be smart to trade him.

I think KD stays and bolts next summer when they fail to live up to expectations.

 

[trojanfan12]

Sure. Clue me in. All I see what you typically do when someone questions a point you made and you box yourself in, you deflect. Instead of supporting yourself or just walking away leaving it be, you try to make the conversation about the "argument" and not the content of what was being talked about.

So you've got two options; talk about the expirings or just keep going in circles hoping the whole thing is forgotten

Whatever makes you feel better.