Kyrie Irving is now a...

[flyerhawk]

Want me to post career playoff numbers...Irving has curry beat there as well

5.4 beats 8.1? Interesting.

 

[CitySushi]

Post Currys playoff numbers at age 23 the same year Irving won a ring

Did Curry have Lebron on his team when he was 23 to carry him?

 

[lebron23james]

I am not surprised. That just states how flawed win shares are as a measurement tool. Any instrument that has Kyrie rated higher than LeBron is not one anybody should trust.

I prefer PER personally

 

[lebron23james]

5.4 beats 8.1? Interesting.

it does because one adds up 4 years worth and the other adds up 2....So in 2 year 5.4 is more than half of 8.1 last time i checked...

 

[CitySushi]

5.4 beats 8.1? Interesting.

No, he means only for games that are played on a Wednesday after 8 pm, when there's a full moon. Kyrie totally kills him on those days.

 

[lebron23james]

No, he means only for games that are played on a Wednesday after 8 pm, when there's a full moon. Kyrie totally kills him on those days.

I think you are having a hard time understanding a simple stat

 

[CitySushi]

it does because one adds up 4 years worth and the other adds up 2....So in 2 year 5.4 is more than half of 8.1 last time i checked...

Well if you were actually concerned about it, Kyrie Irving has 5.4 in his 5 years in the league. Curry has 8.1 in his 7 seasons.

So Steph Curry has a 1.16 average win share per season and Kyrie has 1.08.

So Steph wins again, even using your genius math skills.

 

[CitySushi]

 

[lebron23james]

Well if you were actually concerned about it, Kyrie Irving has 5.4 in his 5 years in the league. Curry has 8.1 in his 7 seasons.

So Steph Curry has a 1.16 average win share per season and Kyrie has 1.08.

So Steph wins again, even using your genius math skills.

It adds it up, not exactly sure why lol

But....

Lebron has a win share of 41.6 compared to Currys of 8.3...

 

[WiggyRuss]

Playoff games while being the best player on their team:

Steph Curry - 57
Kyrie Irving - 0

Hate to break it to you- but when it mattered Steph Curry wasnt the best player on his team either- either in this last Finals or the one before.

One of the few MVP's that I can recall that had significant George Constanza shrinkage in the playoffs.

 

[CitySushi]

Hate to break it to you- but when it mattered Steph Curry wasnt the best player on his team either- either in this last Finals or the one before.

Ok, let's go with that logic. In order to get to the finals, you have to what? You have to actually make the playoffs first. Kyrie hasn't shown he can do that leading a team. Steph Curry at least has a proven track record of it.

This is not an argument about merit in the finals, it's about @lebron23james being a total nut job when it comes to facts. At no point have you ever argued Kyrie's better than Curry, and I have definitely not argued against Kyrie playing better than Curry in the finals.

What it comes down to is at least when you cherry pick facts (not singling you out specifically, we all do it to some degree), you at least have some sort of reasoning behind it. This other guy just post nonsense that doesn't even support his own arguments. It's comical, really.

 

[CitySushi]

It adds it up, not exactly sure why lol

But....

Lebron has a win share of 41.6 compared to Currys of 8.3...

And your point is? Literally no one is comparing Curry's career to Lebron.

That was a totally unforeseen tangent, but I guess you do what you gotta do when you have literally nothing to back up anything you post.

 

[bksballer89]

And your point is? Literally no one is comparing Curry's career to Lebron.

That was a totally unforeseen tangent, but I guess you do what you gotta do when you have literally nothing to back up anything you post.

You're arguing with a tool

 

[CitySushi]

You're arguing with a tool

I know it, the NBA season needs to come back soon.

You know he's out of ammo when he directly turned a Kyrie vs. Curry argument into "Well Lebron is better than Curry". LOL.

 

[lebron23james]

And your point is? Literally no one is comparing Curry's career to Lebron.

That was a totally unforeseen tangent, but I guess you do what you gotta do when you have literally nothing to back up anything you post.

Win share/48

Irving .210

Curry .179

LOL@trying to add up 4 years of playoff vs 2 years tho

 

[lebron23james]

Ok, let's go with that logic. In order to get to the finals, you have to what? You have to actually make the playoffs first. Kyrie hasn't shown he can do that leading a team. Steph Curry at least has a proven track record of it.

This is not an argument about merit in the finals, it's about @lebron23james being a total nut job when it comes to facts. At no point have you ever argued Kyrie's better than Curry, and I have definitely not argued against Kyrie playing better than Curry in the finals.

What it comes down to is at least when you cherry pick facts (not singling you out specifically, we all do it to some degree), you at least have some sort of reasoning behind it. This other guy just post nonsense that doesn't even support his own arguments. It's comical, really.

I prefer to look at stats...

You mean like stats like overall playoff #'s where Kyrie has a higher PER, Win share/48, better fg%, 3 pt%, less TO, more blocks and better head to head matchup stats....yeah i think he is better....

Curry had no track record of anything at Irvings age...

 

[flyerhawk]

it does because one adds up 4 years worth and the other adds up 2....So in 2 year 5.4 is more than half of 8.1 last time i checked...

Except that wasn't what you said. What you said was "Want me to post career playoff numbers...Irving has curry beat there as well".

I did. Curry has 60% more Winshares in the playoffs than Irving. I don't much care what your new math comes up with.

 

[flyerhawk]

Win share/48

Irving .210

Curry .179

LOL@trying to add up 4 years of playoff vs 2 years tho

Except that wasn't what you said. You changed your argument.

No one cares about your percentages.

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

Post Currys playoff numbers at age 23 the same year Irving won a ring

We can play this game all night long. Curry is miles better than Irving now. In fact, Irving isn't even amongst the top 3 at his position.

You can always play the age game you want. How many championships did Kobe have at age 23? How many did lebron have?

 

[WiggyRuss]

Ok, let's go with that logic. In order to get to the finals, you have to what? You have to actually make the playoffs first. Kyrie hasn't shown he can do that leading a team. Steph Curry at least has a proven track record of it.

This is not an argument about merit in the finals, it's about @lebron23james being a total nut job when it comes to facts. At no point have you ever argued Kyrie's better than Curry, and I have definitely not argued against Kyrie playing better than Curry in the finals.

What it comes down to is at least when you cherry pick facts (not singling you out specifically, we all do it to some degree), you at least have some sort of reasoning behind it. This other guy just post nonsense that doesn't even support his own arguments. It's comical, really.

I think the argument about kyrie "not leading a team to the playoffs" is an assinine argument.

He only had 3 years pre-LeBron and the first 2 years the Cavs were tanking. I mean give me a break.

CP3, Durant and LeBron made the playoffs ZERO times their first 2 years in the league as well.