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Ok, now even I dislike the guy.





(to be fair, meme probably created much earlier)
 

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I remember him in ATL...we were almost good back then
 

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That's the point of interviewing guys before you draft/sign them, if you aren't positive they 110% on board then you need to look elsewhere, but GMs will always get suckered in by talent and overlook these issues
 

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If you dont factor in losing the draft pick and Parise, sure

Uhhh, how was losing Parise punishment for signing the turncoat? I mean, I get that it was a factor since there was no money, but that was not an imposed punishment, it was a self inflicted wound.

How much does Lou pay Jagr?

It's not the dollars, it's the term. 8 years.

woah

just heard on radio he can come back to the NHL after next season :omg:

Pardon my french but that is fucking retarded.

never going to happen.

Unless someone like Jacobs or Illytch wants to...

Your team signed him. Your team has to deal with the it. This is something that could happen to any team with Russian players. Burmistrov just bailed on the Jets. Every team that drafts or signs a Russian player better think long & hard about it first.

Jarmo: You get two years.
Bob: I'll leave. I'll go to the KHL.
Jarmo: Go ahead.
Bob: I mean it.
Jarmo: Hold on, I'm getting a call from Kipprusoff
Bob: OKAY 2 YEARS!

Bob is probably cussing up a storm right now. All he has to do was duplicate last season and he is gonna get locked for big dollars. Now... There's just going to be inherent distrust of anyone who utters the letters KHL.
 
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I HATED KOVY BEFORE IT WAS KEWL. *adjusts scarf* No but really, I hated him when he was in Atlanta.
 

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This explains it all.
 

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quick question. did he officially file his retirement papers? Man I still cant believe he did this after signing that contract and hurting the devils wow
 

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He cant play in the KHL because NHL and KHL have an agreement not to take each other players so unless he is totally a FA he cant.

Aren't they more like... guidelines?

This will be a blow for the Devils short term, but 5 years from now probably a blessing, especially since they are rebuilding.

Kinda shocking though.
 

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It is correct ... the deeper the player is in the contract (ie more years) the higher the recapture penalty ... ie teams benefited more years from the back diving aspect and therefore are penalized more

Luongos recapture penalty would be 825K per until 2021-22
the other half of that 43, is that if someone retired at the VERY end of one of of these monster backdiving contracts that cap recovery penalty could be tens of millions of dollars in a year or two.
I think the principal of it was to recapture all of the cap savings that happened during the playing time of the contract, over the remaining term of the contract.
but, as I've mentioned, it's absolutely ridiculous to have implemented a penalty on contracts that were legal at the time of their acceptance by the league.

Parise, Clarkson, now Kovalchuk. That's a lot of forward talent lost in the past year or so. Saw the impact of Parise's loss last year, gonna be tough dealing with the loss of Clarkson & Kovalchuk this year. Really feel bad for Devil fans.
Kovalchuk & Clarkson scored 27% of the Devils goals over the last 2 seasons.....now it's up to Clowe & Ryder.
reminder... Clowe had 3 last year
This just reinforced the reason why the devils needed to give up the 29th overall pick when they could.
still mind boggling that they didn't make that choice.


tough day for the devils.
and total mickey mouse move by kovalchuk.
 

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First off:
The contract was designed in a way that any lockout changes can be considered, which is why the recapture is that low. I think it could be even lower than $250,000 per year because last year's salaries were cut significantly. Kovy's first two years which occurred during the last CBA was actually lower than his salary cap hit. It only started to increase a lot last year.

2nd:
I'm upset as a Devils fan but very concerned as an NHL fan. I don't see how Russians can remain in the NHL because this opens up a massive hole in the system. Teams wont want to draft Russians anymore because of the huge risk and teams also wont sign Russians to long contracts anymore since there wont be any guarantee that they finish the contract. If these 2 things do happen, it would make playing in the KHL more reliable than playing in the NHL.

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It may just be wishful thinking since I'm a fan of the Devils but I think the NHL should set a precedence to prevent this from happening. Giving teams that lose players this way benefits such as draft picks or cap credits would soften the risk in signing Russians to longer term contracts.

2nd: Its happened once, why assume it will be a frequent thing at all? Not too many players would walk away from that money.

3rd: A player wasn't happy on a team for whatever reason so he retired walking away from millions of dollars and you want the team to get rewarded?
 

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2nd: Its happened once, why assume it will be a frequent thing at all? Not too many players would walk away from that money.

If anything, we always hear rumors about guys leaving for the KHL and the money being "better," but then they end up staying in the NHL like 95% of the time.
 

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quick question. did he officially file his retirement papers? Man I still cant believe he did this after signing that contract and hurting the devils wow

Its all over but the crying ... Kovy signed the retirement papers and lou signed to have the contract terminated

yah ... im guessing the devils franchise have no issue with him retiring at all

that was quick!

Dan Rosen ‏@drosennhl now Lamoriello says Kovalchuk's contract is now void. He has signed the appropriate paperwork.
 

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3rd: A player wasn't happy on a team for whatever reason so he retired walking away from millions of dollars and you want the team to get rewarded?

^^^^ :pizza:
 

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Friedman saying Kovys new deal in russia will be close to 20 mill per ... announcement monday
 

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related: IIHF/NHL Olympic agreement coming next week ... possible reworked KHL transfer agreement included

sound like everything (including the implications of Kovys retirement) has been considered to be in the works for a long time
 
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