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Kobe vs Jordan vs Lebron age 31

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You do realize that Jordan had 3 years of college before hitting the NBA, right?
 

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Jordan also went to baseball for a while.... Imagine if he didn't do that ? The Bulls could a won a decade of championships in a row... The guy was ridiculous... People just forget, go watch the tapes... No one was at his level ...
 

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LeBron played on crappy team at start and was the only scoring option, hence he piled up the points and rebounds
 

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Jordan, end of discussion. And there are several others to consider before you even mention Kobe or Lebron.
 

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940, 948 and 667 games played. Jordan is the GOAT, shouldn't even be involved. Straight Kobe vs LeBron is more interesting
 

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Continuing the through age 31 numbers:

Hall of Fame teammates in prime as running mates through age 31:
Lebron - Dwayne Wade, 4 years
Kobe - Shaq, 8 seasons
Jordan - Pippen, 6 seasons

Hall of Fame Coaches in prime through age 31:
Lebron - 0
Kobe - Jackson, 7 seasons
Jordan - Jackson, 4 seasons

Number of Titles without either a HOF teammate in prime, or HOF coach through age 31:
Lebron - 0
Kobe - 0
Jordan - 0

Season results without either a HOF teammate in prime, or HOF coach through age 31:
Lebron - 1 finals, 3 #1 seeds, 2 Conference Finals, missed playoffs once
Kobe - 1 conference finals, missed playoffs once
Jordan - 2nd round furthest, missed playoffs once
 

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Jordan also went to baseball for a while.... Imagine if he didn't do that ? The Bulls could a won a decade of championships in a row... The guy was ridiculous... People just forget, go watch the tapes... No one was at his level ...

I don't know about a "decade of championships", but the NBA was considerably more physical before the Pacers-Pistons brawl and all the watered-down rules on flagrant fouls.

Jordan faced greater, more balance competition than Kobe or LeBron.
 

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Jordan faced greater, more balance competition than Kobe or LeBron.

Actually, he didn't. He faced a watered down league because it had recently expanded. However, what he did face that Kobe and Lebron never really did, was a much more physical league. The "Jordan Rules" were basically to beat him up physically in an attempt to make him less effective.

There were never any "Kobe rules" or "Lebron rules."
 
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Actually, he didn't. He faces a watered down league because it had recently expanded. However, what he did face that Kobe and Lebron never really did, was a much more physical league. The "Jordan Rules" were basically to beat him up physically in an attempt to make him less effective.

There were never any "Kobe rules" or "Lebron rules."

More teams = more parity. While Kobe and LeBron faced the same amount of teams, they played during the "superteam" era when players tried to latch on with other stars to increase their chances of winning. Not as much top-to-bottom competition.
 

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Kobe wasn't the focal point of his team's offense.....unlike LeBron.
 

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Kobe didn't even start his first season and didn't break the mpg mark till his 3rd season.
 

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Actually, he didn't. He faces a watered down league because it had recently expanded. However, what he did face that Kobe and Lebron never really did, was a much more physical league. The "Jordan Rules" were basically to beat him up physically in an attempt to make him less effective.

There were never any "Kobe rules" or "Lebron rules."

This.
 

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Games played is really the telling statistic of that graphic. Jordan was incredible.
 

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More teams = more parity. While Kobe and LeBron faced the same amount of teams, they played during the "superteam" era when players tried to latch on with other stars to increase their chances of winning. Not as much top-to-bottom competition.

Plenty of bad teams in all eras. I think you are underselling the more recent ones.

What do you consider the start of the "superteam" era? Kobe was several years into his career prior to 2011.
 

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Continuing the through age 31 numbers:

Hall of Fame teammates in prime as running mates through age 31:
Lebron - Dwayne Wade, 4 years
Kobe - Shaq, 8 seasons
Jordan - Pippen, 6 seasons

Hall of Fame Coaches in prime through age 31:
Lebron - 0
Kobe - Jackson, 7 seasons
Jordan - Jackson, 4 seasons

Number of Titles without either a HOF teammate in prime, or HOF coach through age 31:
Lebron - 0
Kobe - 0
Jordan - 0

Season results without either a HOF teammate in prime, or HOF coach through age 31:
Lebron - 1 finals, 3 #1 seeds, 2 Conference Finals, missed playoffs once
Kobe - 1 conference finals, missed playoffs once
Jordan - 2nd round furthest, missed playoffs once

The last 2 statistical groups are a little disengenous.....He had Wade AND Bosh in Miami so let us not act like he didn't have much talent.....
 
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