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I find that very hard to believe

Who have we overpaid?

Is it not the going rate what Brunson got?

You overpaid Brunson, Fournier and Randle.

You also just overpaid Barrett, but that one is a little different since he was your own RFA and most teams make that mistake.
 

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I find that very hard to believe

Who have we overpaid?

Is it not the going rate what Brunson got?
He just fucking told you. And you wonder why you catch hell here.
 

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You overpaid Brunson, Fournier and Randle.

You also just overpaid Barrett, but that one is a little different since he was your own RFA and most teams make that mistake.
Yep, sunk cost fallacy
 

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You overpaid Brunson, Fournier and Randle.

You also just overpaid Barrett, but that one is a little different since he was your own RFA and most teams make that mistake.
When the pampered puzzeez won’t come here , what choice do we have?

Fornier, proves my point that players can’t perform here.. 3 pt threat in Boston!

Randle is on crack

If barret decides to work on his game and not his body, he will be fine
 

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When the pampered puzzeez won’t come here , what choice do we have?

Fornier, proves my point that players can’t perform here.. 3 pt threat in Boston!

Randle is on crack

If barret decides to work on his game and not his body, he will be fine

I have explained time and again why you can’t get stars.

And it isn’t because they are pampered.

It is because the Knicks organization is a shit show.
 

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I have explained time and again why you can’t get stars.

And it isn’t because they are pampered.

It is because the Knicks organization is a shit show.
The Knicks are a shit show cause they have not had a star player here, with no supporting cast as other champs have had.

Lebron, could have signed here before he went to Miami , yes or no, you think he didn’t sign here cause of Dolan, that is ludicrous!

Had he signed and played here, would he have made the Knicks a contender? The guy calls the shots everywhere he goes. Dolan would not have not said a thing and you know it.

What the fuck is wrong with you . It was lebrons choice to go to Miami , had nothing to do with Dolan! NOTHING, but you insist it does. That makes no sense whatsoever.
 

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The Knicks are a shit show cause they have not had a star player here, with no supporting cast as other champs have had.

Lebron, could have signed here before he went to Miami , yes or no, you think he didn’t sign here cause of Dolan, that is ludicrous!

Had he signed and played here, would he have made the Knicks a contender? The guy calls the shots everywhere he goes. Dolan would not have not said a thing and you know it.

What the fuck is wrong with you . It was lebrons choice to go to Miami , had nothing to do with Dolan! NOTHING, but you insist it does. That makes no sense whatsoever.

LeBron was so long ago that Dolan hadn’t proven totally incompetent yet.

So no.

But he signed in another big market that gave him a better opportunity. And the Knicks were never a realistic possibility to beat what Miami had to offer.

And now?

Yes. It is Dolan.

Dolan who has built a lousy organizational culture and a franchise strapped with too many bad contracts to even try to sign somebody legit.
 

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LeBron was so long ago that Dolan hadn’t proven totally incompetent yet.

So no.

But he signed in another big market that gave him a better opportunity. And the Knicks were never a realistic possibility to beat what Miami had to offer.

And now?

Yes. It is Dolan.

Dolan who has built a lousy organizational culture and a franchise strapped with too many bad contracts to even try to sign somebody legit.
You’re lucky that no one gives a shit about this thread, and the knicks.

WOW
 

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You’re lucky that no one gives a shit about this thread, and the knicks.

WOW

Except that everyone else who has come through has told you that you are way off base.

And you still think you know what you are talking about.
 

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Except that everyone else who has come through has told you that you are way off base.

And you still think you know what you are talking about.
my posts , common sense
Yours , analytical nonsense
 

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Bottom line, even if Dolan sells the Knicks I bet the house they still ain’t winning a thing cause the pampered dimwits won’t play here.
 

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Money talks bullshit walks…

(1)You telling by me that in all the time Dolan has owned, he never had the money to attract a star? :L

You telling me that when Dolan brought Isiah here it wasn’t in good intentions to attract star players?

You say I can’t see it, well I say you can’t see it!

He owns 2 orgs , and the blueprints are similar to having success. The fact that you don’t not believe this is absolutely crazy. If it was Dolan that stars won’t play for then why do hockey star players like panarin, trojek, Zanbanashad play for him ?

1. Not once have I said the Knicks don't have money to attract stars.

I stopped reading after that.

One more time since you're stubborn. Dolan is the reason all star caliber players don't want to play for the Knicks. You obviously don't want to hear that. It's the truth. But keep letting yourself otherwise. All the changes and the only thing that's stayed the same is ownership.
 

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1. Not once have I said the Knicks don't have money to attract stars.

I stopped reading after that.

One more time since you're stubborn. Dolan is the reason all star caliber players don't want to play for the Knicks. You obviously don't want to hear that. It's the truth. But keep letting yourself otherwise. All the changes and the only thing that's stayed the same is ownership.
Again for the 100th time, none of ya’s have given me any reason to believe what y’all are saying that it is Dolan, cause other than hockey and basketball being different sports, they both have the same blueprint for success.

So why do the rangers, the other team Dolan owns, why do they attract star players ?
 

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Again for the 100th time, none of ya’s have given me any reason to believe what y’all are saying that it is Dolan, cause other than hockey and basketball being different sports, they both have the same blueprint for success.

So why do the rangers, the other team Dolan owns, why do they attract star players ?

Holy shit you're simply impossible.

The coaches change. The GM changes. The players change. But the only thing that stays the same is the owner.

Now if everything keeps changing except the owner then who's responsible for the Knicks struggles?

And maybe someday you'll figure out the NBA isn't the NHL. The two league aren't similar.
 

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Most Knicks fans understand the real problem with the team begins at the top.
Dolan needs to go. Full stop.

Memo to pasta: please pull your head out of your ass, dude… then wake up and smell the coffee.

pasta doesn't understand it all starts at the top.
 

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Holy shit you're simply impossible.

The coaches change. The GM changes. The players change. But the only thing that stays the same is the owner.

Now if everything keeps changing except the owner then who's responsible for the Knicks struggles?

And maybe someday you'll figure out the NBA isn't the NHL. The two league aren't similar.
Which supports my opinion 100% that there isn’t enough real talent, good basketball minds in the NBA..

The players don’t want to work for it in the NBA, too worried about MONEY then anything else .

You simpleton!!! The only difference in the 2 is the game itself. The business end of it is very similar.

Hockey players actually give a shit, the b ballers are pampered f n puzzies who have way too much control.

Again, not one intelligent reason given for why Dolan is the problem. He has money, that’s all he has. He has no say in anything that we here in NY know of. When they draft, we here nothing of Dolan havin any part of it. So WTF is he blamed for another than him being a dick. So he’s a dick.
 

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Which supports my opinion 100% that there isn’t enough real talent, good basketball minds in the NBA..

The players don’t want to work for it in the NBA, too worried about MONEY then anything else .

You simpleton!!! The only difference in the 2 is the game itself. The business end of it is very similar.

Hockey players actually give a shit, the b ballers are pampered f n puzzies who have way too much control.

Again, not one intelligent reason given for why Dolan is the problem. He has money, that’s all he has. He has no say in anything that we here in NY know of. When they draft, we here nothing of Dolan havin any part of it. So WTF is he blamed for another than him being a dick. So he’s a dick.

And that describes your problem to a tee.

You think that the “real talent” is in coaching and GM positions.

The reality is that there are hundreds of people capable of competently coaching an NBA team.

GMs, probably somewhat less.

But there are plenty of people capable of doing those jobs who never get the chance.

And while there are certainly plenty examples of people who land coaching jobs and prove to not be good at them, most coaches who fail, fail because they weren’t in position to succeed from the start.
 

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And that describes your problem to a tee.

You think that the “real talent” is in coaching and GM positions.

The reality is that there are hundreds of people capable of competently coaching an NBA team.

GMs, probably somewhat less.

But there are plenty of people capable of doing those jobs who never get the chance.

And while there are certainly plenty examples of people who land coaching jobs and prove to not be good at them, most coaches who fail, fail because they weren’t in position to succeed from the start.
Only problem I have here is that I’m a Knicks fan, and I can’t figure that out at all !
 
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