Just how bad are things at USC?

[GoldRusher]

New facilities would prob go a long way.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

New facilities would prob go a long way.

USC has good facilities. Nobody has a clue as to who will be coaching at SC after next season.

 

[GoldRusher]

USC has good facilities. Nobody has a clue as to who will be coaching at SC after next season.

But are their facilities on par or better than it's blueblood peers? especially in the southeast?

I don't think they are and I guess that's partially on Helton but its more on a lack of support from USC leadership (above him) or lack thereof.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

But are their facilities on par or better than it's blueblood peers? especially in the southeast?

I don't think they are and I guess that's partially on Helton but its more on a lack of support from USC leadership (above him) or lack thereof.

USC's facilities aren't on par with Oregon and Oregon's are second to none but they're usually ranked in the top 20 on most ranking list. With that said Helton is dead man walking. Next season will be his last.

 

[GoldRusher]

USC's facilities aren't on par with Oregon and Oregon's are second to none but they're usually ranked in the top 20 on most ranking list. With that said Helton is dead man walking. Next season will be his last.

I wouldn't count on that, for one, who they gonna get?
If the new AD had "his guy" in mind then Helton would be gone already. JMO but I think Bohn will try and surround/support Helton with better recruiters/facilities first, wait a couple years then make his evaluation on Helton. We'll see

 

[AlaskaGuy]

I wouldn't count on that, for one, who they gonna get?
If the new AD had "his guy" in mind then Helton would be gone already. JMO but I think Bohn will try and surround/support Helton with better recruiters/facilities first, wait a couple years then make his evaluation on Helton. We'll see

Helton has a fat ass buyout that drops significantly after this next season. USC has been spending money on admission scandals, the medical school scandal, previous HC buyouts, etc ... After this next season Bohn will hire a new HC .. maybe Luke Fickel.

 

[outofyourmind]

It looks like the USC administration is taking a page out of the Miami playbook.

Just don't give a shit.


Good times

 

[CorpRebel]

New facilities would prob go a long way.

NEW facilities are the least of their problems right now. USC opened their new football facilities ($70M) in 2012. It's a pretty nice setup.

USC’s $70 Million Football Facility
USC's New $70 Million Football Facility

Ranking Top 20 facilities in college football for 2019 (USC Ranked 16th in these rankings)
Ranking Top 20 facilities in college football for 2019

 

[CorpRebel]

It looks like the USC administration is taking a page out of the Miami playbook.

Just don't give a shit.


Good times

Now, Now... DON'T be like that!!! We're NOT that bad... well, not yet, anyway.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Now, Now... DON'T be like that!!! We're NOT that bad... well, not yet, anyway.

Correct me if I'm wrong but it comes down to money (buyout) in regards to keeping Helton on for another year.

 

[CorpRebel]

Correct me if I'm wrong but it comes down to money (buyout) in regards to keeping Helton on for another year.

Sure, it ALWAYS "comes down to money" no matter what the issue is these days. AND I'd agree that that was "part" of the reasons for the decision to keep Helton for one more year.

 

[GoldRusher]

NEW facilities are the least of their problems right now. USC opened their new football facilities ($70M) in 2012. It's a pretty nice setup.

USC’s $70 Million Football Facility
USC's New $70 Million Football Facility

Ranking Top 20 facilities in college football for 2019 (USC Ranked 16th in these rankings)
Ranking Top 20 facilities in college football for 2019

^^
That has USC right between Kentucky and North Carolina...


That aint gonna cut it when you talkin big boy blueblood football.

 

[gobigred]

I’m guessing getting your shit pushed in by Iowa in bowl game isn’t helpful to the situation at USC

 

[rmilia1]

Not sure whats hsppening at USC other than Iowas bout to whoop that ass though

Im not going to say i told you so but.... wait, yes i am, i totally told you so

 

[AlaskaGuy]

 

[wazzu31]

New facilities would prob go a long way.

Kind of hard to build billion dollar facilities when USC is essentially the only P5 that is within walking difference of a dangerous inner city.

 

[wazzu31]

Sure, it ALWAYS "comes down to money" no matter what the issue is these days. AND I'd agree that that was "part" of the reasons for the decision to keep Helton for one more year.

It’s more than money though. The entire athletic department and school is toxic at the moment for recruits. Clean up the FBI shit and either sign Helton to a long term contract or fire him and you guys will be fine.

 

[wazzu31]

I wouldn't count on that, for one, who they gonna get?
If the new AD had "his guy" in mind then Helton would be gone already. JMO but I think Bohn will try and surround/support Helton with better recruiters/facilities first, wait a couple years then make his evaluation on Helton. We'll see

All the reports say USC won’t surround him with top notch assistants otherwise Bob Stoops would be the HC right now.

 

[Collegefbfan]

Not sure about buyouts, job security, loyalty, blah, blah... After this season, and shit hasn't been turned around, I would be paging Brent Venables. Would he come out west? Only way to find out is ask...oh yeah, and a few million wouldn't hurt either.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

Kind of hard to build billion dollar facilities when USC is essentially the only P5 that is within walking difference of a dangerous inner city.

Not to mention the cost of property in the area compared to most P5 areas.