Joel Klatt's conference rankings

[nddulac]

The SEC won 100% of the playoff games last year

The SEC also accounted for a third of the losses.

 

[belcherboy]

The SEC won 100% of the playoff games last year. I think that's pretty important. Especially since you turn around and talk about bowl games, because you know - that's the most important thing.

You had a great bowl season because you didn't send any teams to the playoffs. Do you understand how the bowl things work? You sent your best team to your top bowl invite, the Rose Bowl. Meanwhile, the SEC sent it's 3rd best team to it's top bowl.

AND, on top of that, the majority of your bowl games were against Pac12 teams. Even with all those advantages, Michigan STILL somehow managed to lose to South Carolina.

So once again, what in the fuck did the Big10 do that warrants being called the best conference in college football? Because Ohio St beat USC in the Rose Bowl? That's your fucking argument?

Fair enough. You measure an entire conference strength by 1-2 teams. I just disagree with that measurement.

 

[4down20]

The SEC also accounted for a third of the losses.

Fucking Georgia.

 

[iowajerms]

SEC = Most top heavy conference but not top to bottom.

 

[4down20]

Fair enough. You measure an entire conference strength by 1-2 teams. I just disagree with that measurement.

Where does the Big10 get stronger? What, you might have 1 more team in the top25 or something like that, while the rest of those teams are constantly ranked lower than the SEC?

 

[4down20]

SEC = Most top heavy conference but not top to bottom.

Ok, which is better:

#49, #51

Or #1, #100

Although spoiler - I bet the SEC isn't the worst at the bottom either.

 

[belcherboy]

Where does the Big10 get stronger? What, you might have 1 more team in the top25 or something like that, while the rest of those teams are constantly ranked lower than the SEC?

The B10 was dynamic last year during bowl season, the SEC was not. Bowls are somewhat subjective though, depending on who you draw.

Maybe I’m just overrating the B10 this year, and I’ll be proven wrong. This is the first year I’ve felt that the B10 is better, on paper, than the SEC. I’m talking as a whole conference. I feel the playoffs just give a picture of 1-2 teams at the top of the conference.

It’s probably smart to bet on the SEC over the B10 though. It has been traditionally better. I just think this year will be different (not in the playoffs though)

 

[4down20]

According to the massey composite, worst teams in each conference:

College Football Ranking Composite

Big12: #114 Kansas
Pac12: #112 Oregon St
Big10: #104 Illinois
Big10: #94 Rutgers
Big12: #84 Baylor
SEC: #83 Vandy
SEC: #81 Tennessee
ACC: #78 Virginia

So the SEC is not best top to bottom, but only because of the ACC being the best at the bottom.

The Big10 on the other hand is among the worst at the bottom. Actually, they are probably the worst at the bottom because you got Maryland at #75 and Nebraksa at #67, Minnesota #65 and Indiana #64. The ACC has 2 more teams in the 70's, that's it.

That is 7 Big10 teams ranked lower than all but 2 SEC teams.

But somehow this is supposed to be the best conference in college football?

BULLSHIT.

 

[4down20]

The B10 was dynamic last year during bowl season, the SEC was not. Bowls are somewhat subjective though, depending on who you draw.

Maybe I’m just overrating the B10 this year, and I’ll be proven wrong. This is the first year I’ve felt that the B10 is better, on paper, than the SEC. I’m talking as a whole conference. I feel the playoffs just give a picture of 1-2 teams at the top of the conference.

It’s probably smart to bet on the SEC over the B10 though. It has been traditionally better. I just think this year will be different (not in the playoffs though)

Read my above post.

You guys are fucking stupid.

 

[Deep Creek]

So the only measurement for conference quality is playoff success?

Which is why the PAC 12 and Big 12 are considered the red headed step children. Until they win some playoff games/nattys, they'll be considered inferior.

I know, I know, the PAC 12...Oregon... does have one CFP win...but the conference hasn't even been in the playoffs twice.

 

[7Samurai13]

I absolutely agree! They haven’t achieved jack squat.

If we are talking about national titles, then yeah, we haven’t done much in 60 years.

 

[belcherboy]

Read my above post.

You guys are fucking stupid.

I do enjoy talking to you, but you do have a bad case of “Team SEC”!

 

[belcherboy]

If we are talking about national titles, then yeah, we haven’t done much in 60 years.

I’m just agreeing with you. They don’t deserve respect.

 

[4down20]

If we are talking about national titles, then yeah, we haven’t done much in 60 years.

Fuck I'm getting old.

I was thinking well I would give you the one over ND in the 60's if I'm pretending like Alabama didn't get screwed that year.

But that was 60 years ago.

 

[belcherboy]

Which is why the PAC 12 and Big 12 are considered the red headed step children. Until they win some playoff games/nattys, they'll be considered inferior.

I know, I know, the PAC 12...Oregon... does have one CFP win...but the conference hasn't even been in the playoffs twice.

That’s fine, but we are talking about 1-2 different teams. That is all each conference has ever put into the playoffs. (Maybe there is a conference that has had three different playoff teams since the start of the playoff era though)

 

[4down20]

I do enjoy talking to you, but you do have a bad case of “Team SEC”!

Because there's no way in hell I'm right, it must be because of conference bias.

I think you are stupid, like all but maybe 2 Michigan fans.

 

[belcherboy]

Because there's no way in hell I'm right, it must be because of conference bias.

I think you are stupid, like all but like 2 Michigan fans.

You sir are definitely not stupid. I enjoyed the discussion. You’ve made me rethink gambling my family fortune ($72) on the B10 this season. Thanks for the help.

 

[belcherboy]

Fuck I'm getting old.

I was thinking well I would give you the one over ND in the 60's if I'm pretending like Alabama didn't get screwed that year.

But that was 60 years ago.

I’m curious, how old are you?

 

[Ickey Shuffle]

AAC > SEC

UCF > SEC West Champion > National Champion

Hey man, leave the AAC out of this. We've done nothing wrong lol.

Well, besides UCF bad-mouthing and calling out Alabama all throughout the summer

 

[4down20]

I’m curious, how old are you?

I wasn't alive when that game was played, but I do remember when it wasn't 60 fucking years ago.