JETER should NOT be 1st ballot

[Voltaire26]

no, but those guys led in stuff and were the best at their position for times.

boggs has an OPS 40 pts higher. he also led the league in 20 stats over his career. 20 times, he was the best at something, many times in the same year (BA, OBP, hits, etc). 7 straight years of at least a .325 avg, 200 hits an 100 runs.

Gwynn, same. no comment needed. come on now.

Ichiro has 4,367 hits in both leagues for his career so...see above. he also led the league in meaningful stats 10 times. he also kinda hit leadoff?

the guys above are in for MORE than just 3k hits or team awards. they were the best at their position, and led the league in several categories for prolonged periods of time.

btw, jetes led the league in hits twice, and runs once. so, his accolades are a few team awards and those 3 times he led in something. Was he ever the games best short stop?

You do realize you are comparing Jeter to 1st Ballot (or will be in the case of Ichiro) Hall of Famers.

 

[Chewbaccer]

when can we talk Dale Murphy?

amirite @Chewbaccer

I'm all for it, but I think we're in the minority here.

 

[ElTexan]

You don’t argue granting an award by bringing up other awards. Stop bringing up his GGs. They were completely undeserved. The actual metrics of fielding price that he was a below average SS and cost his team runs.

His OPS+, his mediocre fielding, etc should not have him as a first balloter

 

[navamind]

You don’t argue granting an award by bringing up other awards. Stop bringing up his GGs. They were completely undeserved. The actual metrics of fielding price that he was a below average SS and cost his team runs.

His OPS+, his mediocre fielding, etc should not have him as a first balloter

A 115 OPS+ makes him one of the best offensive shortstops of all-time, especially considering how long he played.

 

[StanMarsh51]

when can we talk Dale Murphy?

amirite @Chewbaccer

When you really look at it, he only had abut 6-7 seasons that were good or better... Hard to put a guy like that in the HOF unless those seasons were epic imo.

 

[StanMarsh51]

Jeter career ops+ 115
Sandberg 114

Jeter through the same number of games as Sandberg had a 121 OPS+....if Jeter retired earlier with that higher OPS+, would you be bringing this up?

 

[Rock Strongo]

You do realize you are comparing Jeter to 1st Ballot (or will be in the case of Ichiro) Hall of Famers.

uhhh...yeah?

thats...kinda the point n stuff?

 

[Indrid Cold]

His chick has much better tits than I realized...

 

[Markwassillylaugher]

#2 gets in on the first ballot!!

 

[black francis]

 

[black francis]

Easily the most overrated player of his generation

 

[broncosmitty]

Easily the most overrated player of his generation

Him or Papi.


Toss up imo.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Him or Papi.


Toss up imo.

Al Kaline

 

[Indrid Cold]

Al Kaline

Earl Averill

 

[navamind]

Jack Morris

 

[CaptainStubing]

jeter had hotter girlfriends than sandberg ..... first ballot

 

[Indrid Cold]

jeter had hotter girlfriends than sandberg ..... first ballot

Sandberg's first wife was pretty hot, but she apparently found his teammates more attractive than him... especially Dave Martinez.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Sandberg's first wife was pretty hot, but she apparently found his teammates more attractive than him... especially Dave Martinez.

She was banging Dave Martinez?

Guess it's better than Joe Buck banging Fernando Tatis

 

[Indrid Cold]

She was banging Dave Martinez?

Guess it's better than Joe Buck banging Fernando Tatis

Supposedly, Dave was one of many!

 

[broncosmitty]

Al Kaline

That's a yuge g-g-g-generation